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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:41 AM
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Obstruction of Justice. Clear and Plain As The Nose On Your Face.
These guys are above the law. If they kept local law enforcement away because they had been drinking, that's obstruction of justice.

If it was an accident, what conceivable reason would there have been to not talk to law enforcement?

I think I, like everyone else, originally underestimated the gravity of what really happened here.

Cheney should resign. I think it's that big.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:43 AM
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1. Any bets on when, if , and what Bush will say about this whole
incident? The spin machine probably stayed up all night trying to figure out what to do next.
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:45 AM
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2. Bush wil try to make a joke out of it like the missing WMD
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:52 AM
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6. Reality is so funny to this administration isn't it?
:eyes:
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:59 AM
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10. They pride themselves on making their own reality
''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

http://www.cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/sloth/2004-10-16b.html
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:05 AM
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11. Interesting
It almost sounds like the aide is channeling Seth (if you are familiar with Jane Roberts' series of books, Seth Speaks is one of them).
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:48 AM
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3. This is how I would have spun it. Immediately tell
the news a few details such as an accidental shooting in the vp's hunting party. That would have led to speculation as to whether Cheney was hurt, garnering lots of sympathy. Then, when breaking news reveals Cheney shot the other guy, there would be a collective sigh of relief that Cheney wasn't killed.

Again, it's always the cover-up isn't it?
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:53 AM
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7. Yeah, and it is always someone else's fault
They can't take responsibility for anything and they should be called out on it.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:59 AM
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9. Collective sigh of relief . . .
. . . that Cheney wasn't killed???!!??!!??!!
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:07 AM
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12. I know Richard D. I thought about the irony of that when I wrote it.
You know I'm referring to freeptards.LOL.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:04 PM
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16. Of course
it makes sense now. That statement just caused me a momentary separation from consensual reality, wondering what part of the rabbit hole I had fallen into. Sort of felt like a frightened quail for a moment.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:11 PM
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17. LOL. (shhhhh! I'm trying to be a patriot here or should I say a great
american).
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:51 AM
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4. The fact that Cheney did not make himself available at the time
the sheriff showed up but instead used his secret service contingent to block access to investigators is at the very least an abuse of power to evade law enforcement. Isn't evasion of law enforcement a crime in and of itself?
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:55 AM
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8. It's called Obstruction of Justice!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:34 PM
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18. Then he's a multiple offender

§ 38.04. EVADING<0> ARREST OR DETENTION. (a) A person
commits an offense if he intentionally flees from a person he knows
is a peace officer<0> attempting lawfully to arrest or detain him.

and this:

§ 38.05. HINDERING APPREHENSION OR PROSECUTION. (a) A
person commits an offense if, with intent to hinder the arrest,
prosecution, conviction, or punishment of another for an offense
or, with intent to hinder the arrest, detention, adjudication, or
disposition of a child for engaging in delinquent conduct that
violates a penal law of the grade of felony, he:
(1) harbors or conceals the other;
(2) provides or aids in providing the other with any
means of avoiding arrest or effecting escape; or
(3) warns the other of impending discovery or
apprehension.


http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/cqcgi?CQ_SESSION_KEY=BOHZMCOMYLIQ&CQ_QUERY_HANDLE=124156&CQ_CUR_DOCUMENT=24&CQ_TLO_DOC_TEXT=YES

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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:52 AM
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5. rove has got to be working overtime to conjure up all kinds of......
'reasons' to explain the different indiscretions involving the cheney shooting debacle. We need to get past the 'smoke' to discover the fire!!!!
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:21 AM
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13. They want to give Cheney a medal for Christ's sake
He bagged himself a Lawyer and we all know how much the GOP hates lawyers unless they need one of course.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:23 AM
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14. That's what it's come down to. A joke that he shot a lawyer.
Nobody is taking it seriously because of that.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:28 AM
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15. If you remove the "shooting" part of the story you get a different view
What if Dick Cheyney had been backing out of Anne Armstrong's driveway and Whittington had unbeknownst to him, walked behind his SUV and Dick mowed him down? You would know that:

It was an accident
There was an injury
An ambulance would take away the injured man
The police would/should be called
They would do an accident investigation immediately - not the next day
They would immediately determine if alcohol was involved.

Isn't that the way things of this ilk usually happen? If your name was Joe Blow and not Dick Cheyney? If you're driving a car, you are supposed to make sure your path is clear. Would Anyone blame Whittington in this scenario? Would they say, he was just "Michelined a little - only by the right rear tire."

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:37 PM
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19. I think so too. If Whittington dies, Cheney will have to resign.
If he lives, there has to be an investigation into the cover-up.
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