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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:54 AM
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Well, Markos banned me for criticizing him
So I no longer have an account at Kos (at least not with the option to do a new diary, or rate comments). Whatever. Markos is a scumbag tool working for the powers that be in the Democratic party, methinks, and was out to trash Hackett the whole time (his buddy, Jerome, trolled around at Kos criticizing Hackett - and then it turned out he was on the Brown payroll). I think Sam Seder needs to stop allowing Markos on his radio show.
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:57 AM
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1. What did you say? nt
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:59 AM
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2. "Fuck off, Kos."
I guess he took patrioticliberal's advice.
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:02 PM
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3. LOL...nt
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:03 PM
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5. Is that really what was said?
If anyone said that to me, that woulda gotten 'em banned from DU, too.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:04 PM
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6. Thanks for the warning
Ok, I'm just kidding.
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:06 PM
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8. Skinner rules like Stalin...lol...
for Ali G watchers...
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:07 PM
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10. Yeah.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/14/0135/82714 and search on the string "fuck off"

:evilgrin:
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:31 PM
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19. Damn
I'm glad I just read this, I had it all typed out and everything.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:02 PM
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4. We have to lock-step like Republicans?
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:05 PM
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7. A reasoned argument and F-OFF are 2 different things...nt
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:06 PM
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9. Is There A Link Or A Cached Post?
BTW...wasn't it Kos who championed Hackett and brought him to the attention of many of us who hadn't heard of him? Wasn't it kos that directed people to donate to Hackett's campaign and organized people to make phone calls for him? Oh, I guess that musta been a different Kos.
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:16 PM
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13. Nope, actually, it wasn't. Not in this race, at least.
He's been with Brown the whole time, with his buddy Jerome.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:23 PM
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17. I've Followed This On MyDD
I know Matt and Chris are good friends with Kos and Jerome...but I've also tried to be objective about this. I knew this was coming to a head and am sorry to see it turn into such a flame war...but better on here than in a costly primary battle.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:46 PM
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22. And people who don't support Saint Hackett
deserve a little verbal abuse. Apparently.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:18 PM
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14. yeah, and Schumer and Reid ASKED Hackett to run early on.
I still don't get it.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:08 PM
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11. You've gotta be kidding.
His new book excoriates the powers that be in the Democratic party.

Sherrod Brown has a solid progressive record.

Just because Kos isn't as bent out of shape over this as you are doesn't mean he's evil. Grow up.
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:15 PM
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12. Oh really. Donna Brazille endorses it.
It's bullshit. I might buy a couple copies to burn them.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:20 PM
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15. You are hysterical.
And i don't mean funny.
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:41 PM
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20. Donna Brazille is a DLC tool.
Her endorsement tells you all you need to know about Kos.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:44 PM
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21. Then why do you care that he banned you? n/t
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:11 PM
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32. The site isnot about him. There are plenty
Of good diarists and insightful people at Kos' community Scoop based website.

Kos ain't one of them.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:21 PM
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16. I've never been a fan of Kos... I've only gone there on occasion when
someone links there from here... I became politically active after the last election, and when he wouldn't let election fraud be discussed in detail, I knew that was not somewhere that I wanted to be..
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:25 PM
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18. I don't believe you should say things in anonymity,
that you wouldn't have the guts to say to that person's face. I doubt it you would tell Markos face to face to "fuck off." The anonymity of our identities allows some of us to say a lot that we normally wouldn't say.

But I guarantee you that if you did tell me to fuck off in person, you would be picking your sorry ass up off of the floor.

I do not blame KOS for banning you.

Let us have a little more decorum around here.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:46 PM
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23. Don't you get banned by the community at KOS?
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 12:46 PM by trumad
Isn't it a collective thing...?
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:20 PM
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25. No.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:22 PM
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26. Uhh I beleive so...
It's a community monitored board regarding comments.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:54 PM
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29. I don't use kos
I prefer to think for myself.
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:10 PM
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31. I would happily say it to his face in person
He is scum, and he works for the DLC .
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:56 PM
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24. After reading this
I went over and read deleted statements. It was a lot more comments then the f+++ off to one guy and that one said a lot more then that.

It was a pretty fiercely emotional thread...I always quit reading posts that turn to name calling and insults. Strong feelings can be put other ways, the # of swear words aren't how you win a debate. You might not have been the only one banned through that thread, don't know. I never see differing opinions be rated off the page, just ones that were really insulting.

I really appreciate both of these sites. I was on Daily Kos first but hated the lack of posts allowed about election fraud. My son told me about this site and what a relief it was to find it.

I like how things are handled here. Some things, like 9-11, are sent to another forum, but people are able to talk about what they need to. I'm poor but paltry donations I do send to support forums are only here.

But there are good threads over there too, many good threads.

But I think in either place those comments might have had the same results. Sometimes it's better to cool off first. Nothing wrong with the strong emotions or opinions though.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:35 PM
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27. Kos has always been a hypocritical tool
The guy who is waging "war" against the DLC is also a member of the New Democratic Network (AKA = DLC). He's a paid candidate shill and a hypocrite of the highest order, a thug who admittedly doesn't care about issues, but only "strategy." He wants to be Karl Rove, and he still has enough ego to think that his site is actually about him. Fuck him.
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:10 PM
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30. Yeah....it's about the community - there are good posters there
And Kos ain't one of 'em.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:52 PM
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28. The new book by Kos and Jerome is about the establishment's failures...
and it is called "Crashing the Gates." I would explain who is crashing the gates, but I think you know.

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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:14 PM
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35. You mean Kos the hypocrite?
Kos who wants to wage "war" on the DLC and the "establishment" even as he is a member of the NDN? Kos who takes money and favors in return for influence? Kos who admittedly doesn't care about ideology or issues, but only about "strategy"?

I think Kos is the LAST person who needs to be lecturing Democrats about anything. He can't even figure out what he believes from day to day.
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:39 PM
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36. yeah I know...Sam Seder needs to stop having him on his show
Find a new blogger.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:11 PM
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33. Oh wow
So he was being paid by Brown to trash Hackett? Ugh. How disgusting.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:14 PM
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34. Kos has never come out and endorsed Brown
he has always had nice things to say about both of them. He even worked to raise money for Hackett in his special election against Mean-Jean. BTW, I can see why Kos would ban someone if they said "fuck you." Giving him the Dick Cheney treatment (minus shooting him) will not go over well.
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:58 PM
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37. It seem slike it..his buddy Jerome was (he cowrote his new sleazy book)
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