Get real, folks. Cheney and Whit spent VALENTINE WEEKEND with girlfriends.

[blm]

If any of you ladies and men of this board have been involved outside your marriage, you know damn well that Cheney and his pal were sneaking off to spend time with their girlfriends.

Men don't spend Valentine's weekend with two other women just to hunt.

The time lapse in reporting the incident was to cover up alot more than the shooting

I know from my years in LA and my friendships with callgirls that the Houston crowd of power players were quite "active" in hiring women from LA for their "parties" and events. The whole "Christian" thing is a political act.

The women involved here are your typical power-loving type women. Like the Jane Seymour character in Head Office. Their turn-on is power and the money they can make being associated with that power.

[mzmolly]

1. Ahhhhhhhh,

The pieces of that puzzle certainly fit. BTW, where is Ken Starr when you need him?

[txindy]

3. Last I heard, he was forging letters to a judge to help a client.

What a moral guy. :eyes:

[mzmolly]

24. So I've heard.

;)

[Lasher]

33. This just in: Starr has retracted 5 out of 6 of those letters.

He thinks he can un-tell a lie.

[txindy]

41. He 'retracted' them? WTH?

Is it a do-over or something? Does he think that's acceptable? :crazy:

[Lasher]

42. Lawyers retract jurors' letters urging clemency

SAN FRANCISCO - Former Whitewater independent counsel Kenneth Starr and a Los Angeles attorney said Monday they would withdraw unreliable affidavits from jurors submitted to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger as part of a bid to spare a murderer and rapist from execution.

The bulk of the documents supporting clemency for Michael Morales purportedly made by six trial jurors were denounced by prosecutors Friday as forgeries, but the defense lawyers stood by them until Monday, when they said they would withdraw five of the six.

In a letter to Attorney General Bill Lockyer, attorney David Senior said he and Starr were "withdrawing any and all reliance on any exhibits generated" by one of their investigators.

Kathleen Culhane, the investigator under scrutiny, declined to comment when reached by telephone at her San Francisco office.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/local/crime_courts/13867679.htm

[txindy]

43. Oh, good grief!

Unreal. Absolutely unreal.

Thanks for the update. It's going to take me a while to wrap my mind around that one.

[blm]

44. Dems should demand he be disbarred. Is Starr above the law?

.

[Lasher]

101. Yes, he's a rich white republican.

[paulk]

21. Ken Starr is still locked in the bathroom

"researching" Clinton's relationship with Monica....

[_testify_]

66. Starr only cared about who Clinton "shot" in the face

Sorry. I shouldn't have said it but damn it if it ain't true.

[NobleCynic]

108. wow

I'll have to remember that one

[Magginkat]

109. "researching" Clinton's relationship with Monica....

Is that what they call that act of self gratification these days?


researching relationship with Monica eh? LMAO!

[wake.up.america]

2. self-delete

[warsager]

15. what are you

basing this on?

[Atman]

31. "Valentine's Weekend?"

Oh, come on! This past weekend was no holiday. I know (being semi-sarcastic here) because I base "holidays" on ski resort calendars. Believe me, they don't miss a chance to charge you full price and require two-night stays at the hotels, and last weekend wasn't considered a holiday weekend at any northeast mountain. This coming weekend IS, though. In fact, we drove to Okemo this past weekend without even a reservation and easily found a room as a walk-in. Valentine's Day is one of the few holidays that actually happens on the day it happens, and I think most couples celebrate with a card/candy, nice dinner, not a weekend away.

I'm not saying the there isn't an outside possibility that this was the case, but come on...look at Cheney. If he can even find his pecker under that massive gut, it's long since ceased functioning because of all the medications and heart trouble. And like, he's such a stud, too...I can see why any woman would want to jump him (not semi-sarcastic, full-on sarcastic).

So, now the story about the Veep shooting a man in the face still isn't bizarre enough, we've had to add booze and broads into the mix.

:eyes:

[Missy Vixen]

35. Not us

>I think most couples celebrate with a card/candy, nice dinner, not a weekend away.<

We celebrated Valentine's Day last weekend in a local hotel.

Julie

[blm]

36. Went to brunch Sunday morning at a hotel here and there were LOTS of Vday

couples leaving the hotel with flowers and balloons.

[WinkyDink]

45. I take it you don't remember Kissinger and Jill St. John? $$$$$$$

That's all it takes.

And nobody celebrates Valentine's Day AFTER the fact. No, this thread has it pegged.

[blm]

46. Yep - can't believe anyone would argue against something so obvious.

.

[Atman]

50. Oh, Christ...here we go again

Yeah. I can't believe anyone would ever have differenct ideas than me, too, but sometimes it happens.

Look, first and foremost, there is nothing "obvious" about this story. Your trying to make it a slam-dunk for a weekend affair strikes me as...well, ever heard of George Tenent?

[blm]

52. hahah...sorry Atman, but one thing I know better than most is sex lives

of the rich and powerful.

So, yes...it's OBVIOUS to me.

[Little Star]

56. Not one doubt in my mind either.

I can smell affair or tryst a mile away. There are many reasons this whole thing stinks. The so called christians so love a sex scandal but can't recognize it in their own back yard. Plus now the old guy has a pellet in his heart I hear? What a mess and I bet there are no fly's on Lynne either but she'll do the little stand by your man thingy imho.

[Atman]

59. Yeah...dames love a guy who kills farm-raised birdies from a car!

I can see why you're so sure. Silly me, what was I thinking? A farm, a quail, a shotgun and thou. It's poetry! What woman wouldn't be swept off her feet? I won't even address the absurdity of a wealthy bastard like Cheney trading in his high-mileage wife for another identical model of the same vintage. But it's me who is nuts, I know. Sorry. I guess I'm just out of tin foil!

[Little Star]

65. It's the power thing. n/t

[Atman]

68. Texas billionaire women are such pushovers!

They get all giggly at the sight of a White House AMEX card. They'll do anything for a ride in a black bulletproof limo. They're always the first ones naked at the Billionaire's gang-bang, too, the blue-blood sluts!

[blm]

71. She's definitely a woman ATTRACTED to power and further enrichment of

her own holdings. Her entire history reeks of it.

[Midlodemocrat]

86. Having crossed paths with some of the most powerful

people in DC during Reagan, I have to say, this did cross my mind.

The cheating that went on would curl your hair.

[blm]

75. Cut-throat personality disorder in the women.

Even Richard Speck had marriage offers.

[WinkyDink]

93. Never heard of Ann Coulter, either? Women can be sociopaths, too!

I could even imagine Bo Derek there!
I DID see her pandering during the Convention, no?

And some women (people) can turn QUITE the blind eye to ANYthing...for a PRICE.

[Atman]

57. Uh...okay

I'm sure you'll elaborate.

With pictures, please. ;-)

[blm]

78. DU gallery

You'll get the drift.

[liberalhistorian]

102. He's the Vice-Prez,

that kind of position and power is very appealing to a certain kind of woman, and it has nothing to do with the gentleman's appearance. Power really is the ultimate aphrodisiac.

[calimary]

104. There ARE women who'd be okay with jumping him. Don't forget the

ultimate aphrodesiac: POWER. He has loads of it, all of it ill-gotten gain. And some women, say maybe some middle-aged, attractive local ladies who've known these two a long time. They're all on first-name basis. Friends - a level of status that often trumps actual titles and positions, AND also size-of-political-contribution (I mean, look at Kenny-boy. Exhibit A). Furthermore, few in the mainstream have cared, or dared, to note that each of these four people was married to somebody else not present in that group.

I'm not a hunter. Don't know anything about hunting weekends, or "hunting weekends." I have read quite a few posts here in the last few days from people who do, and there were some interesting observations about "hunting weekends" that were designed as cover for some tryst while the wife stayed home. I don't know this personally. But, thereya go. I'm just saying...

[goodhue]

4. makes sense

So is Cheney involved with Pamela Willeford or Katharine Armstrong?

[SammyWinstonJack]

16. Both?

:evilgrin:

[yorkiemommie1]

85. oooh... is that a silky?

looks like my dear sweet one i used to have.

[Little Star]

58. My moneys on the Swiss Miss. n/t

[blm]

84. Dunno, but my guess is Armstrong.

.

[Dunvegan]

5. This has crossed my mind...but I didn't want to (ahem) take the first shot

Yes. Possible.

The Ambassador, Pamela Willeford...



...looks an awful lot like Lynne Cheney:



Don't a lot of guys pick women that resemble the wife they're cheating on? (Always sort of confused me, that one.)

[murray hill farm]

7. Yep...

but they choose a younger version look alike!

[blm]

14. Well, Dunvegan, that's why I'm here. I'm not too shy re the FACTS OF LIFE.

And not too much of a lady to discuss them in detail if they need to be said.

;)

[WinkyDink]

17. Because she will do........

[never_get_over_it]

77. Ok I'm completely on board now

that second picture of the Swiss Miss does look like Lynne - and didn't poppy Bush have some woman named Jennifer that looked like Babs - wasn't once bad enough for him.....

[Wind Dancer]

6. That is an image I don't want in my head.

It reminds me of the old horror movies I watched as a kid.

[npincus]

8. .. it's you again! You have all the good dish....

.. so how do we get to the bottom of this 'boy-girl-boy-girl' hunting party at the Armstrong ranch? Do Secret Service ever plant blind items on 'Page Six'? The press has avoided mentioning the unusual boy-girl pairing. THIS is why we NEED a National Enquirer!

So, how the hell do we get to the bottom of this....


My thread on the topic:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=404934&mesg_id=404934

[Initech]

9. Wow, no surprise coming from the protectors of "sanctity of marriage"

They're pond scum. Lower, actually.

[Sparkly]

10. Maybe it's just a mental block, but I cannot imagine any of BushCo

being interested in sex. They all strike me as having no libito or animus -- as impotent, flaccid little creeps.

I could even see Poppy having an affair before I could imagine these guys having any interest in it. :shrug:

[Adelante]

70. "impotent, flaccid little creeps"

Sparkly :hug:

[Norquist Nemesis]

11. Except Whit got the blow job from Cheney

or maybe Cheney was getting the blow job and Whit just happened to be in the line of fire when Cheney shot his...er, nevermind.

[WinkyDink]

12. Bingo!! And the lovers who kill together, tha-rill together!!

THIS is the real cover-up, not The Veep Who Couldn't Shoot Straight (or Could He? Hmmmmm.).

[Oilwellian]

13. You nailed it

I certainly wouldn't want it to be publicized that my husband was in the "bush" with another woman. If he were to go on a hunting trip, I'd naturally assume it'd be with the guys, not other women. :D

[formerrepuke]

18. Or maybe a 'Brokeback'-style "fishing" trip.... eeeeeewwww

[qanda]

19. HELLO!!!!!! I wonder what took people so long to figure this out

I told my husband that as soon as I heard it. The old farts were out getting a little on the side.

[blm]

20. Exactly - That's why I thought it was past time to post this thread.

NO guy leaves his wife on Valentine's weekend unless they have serious girlfriends to be with, while they make kissy with wife on Valentine's day.

It's just the way it is.

[Stephanie]

23. it's been discussed plenty

well, here at DU it has anyway.

[qanda]

29. DU always seems to be a few steps ahead of the rest of the world

[peekaloo]

95. I honestly tried not to think about it. Mental images of hump back whales

writhing in ecstasy make me shudder.

Now what makes it hilarious was last night on Letterman his announcer made a play for Lynne, assuming Big Dick gets sent up the river for a manslaughter rap......:rofl:

[libnnc]

22. Repeat it early and often.

This was a Valentine's Weekend Getaway WITHOUT LYNNE.

THAT'S the TRUTH!

:bounce:

[Cleita]

83. Hmmm. I wonder who Lynne is dating this weekend?

Or, did Cheney have to pony up a new diamond necklace, a new Ferrari, or both to get her to look the other way, like Arnold has to do with Maria?

[Matariki]

25. you might be right with the exception of the "turn-on" part

YUCK! Dick Cheney? :puke:

[Wind Dancer]

27. I'll second that...........

:puke:

The image really does make you physically sick in the stomach.

[YDogg]

38. Money is a powerful aphrodisiac.

[Wind Dancer]

39. That is so true.

I do know there's not enough money in the world that would entice me to .................. can't even go there. The thoughts are just too sickening.

[Little Star]

61. Don't forget power.........

Power may be even more of an aphrodisiac.

[Matariki]

74. only in the minds of people with money

if they are as ugly as dick cheney i'm sure the 'aphrodisized' person is faking it.

[NNN0LHI]

26. This is just pure slander

Good God fearing married Christian fundy men often go out of town on hunting trips with other good God fearing married Christian fundy women who they just so happen to not be married to. Oh, yea. Happens all the time. Trust me on this one.

Viagra must be a wonderful thing.

Don

[nini]

28. wouldn't the ability to get an erection be necessary?

I'm doubting old cheney is able to do much of that with all his heart issues.



I'm going to go barf my guts out now just having the thought of any woman wanting to get anywhere near him :puke:

[blm]

30. Guys who don't get erections still have "other" forms of sex....some even

have orgasms without ever getting an erection.

[Missy Vixen]

37. He may have had implant surgery

I'm just sayin'. The thought nauseates me, too.

Julie

[pitohui]

47. not at all, ask bob livingston

there are many forms of sex where an erection is not permitted by the lady in question, the man must perform all service w. tongue or other equipment, heh heh

the word mistress often has a double meaning to men who can afford such twists

[blm]

48. hahahah... exactly.

.

[jazzjunkysue]

94. Get what erect? I'll bet there's very little there there.

[goclark]

32. Help me again, wasn't little Lynn the writer of

trashy novels, with her Lover Boy?

I thought I saw a picture of the two of them?

Where was the husband of the hostess, why didn't he do the talking?

[Little Star]

63. Yes, Lynn wrote some smut books.

I noticed that even when they came clean about the accident the tried to leave the Swiss Miss out of it. It was quite awhile before they admitted that she was even there.

[blm]

87. Exactly...why be so mysterious about who was there unless you were HIDING

her identity for a reason.

[goclark]

97. Who is the Swiss Miss? nt

[Bozita]

34. I think that Cheney gets a sexual kick from all of the killing

Cheney's a strange SOB. The stuff that turns him on is probably equally strange.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=411461&mesg_id=411461

[Raffi Ella]

40. I was one of the ones annoyed by all the Cheney threads

yesterday-
he shot a man on accident big deal!The guy wasn't an enemy,it wasn't Libby he shot for cryin' outloud!There are other news stories and issues we need to be dealing with BUT now...

yeah.It just doesn't add up.There was a cover up of something for some reason.Now I'm hearing the man he shot has a heart attack?Yeah.This is more complicated than an accidental shooting.

[FreedomAngel82]

49. Nothing would surprise me

If Jeff Gannon can make so many visit's to the White House when there's no press happenings going on than it does make you wonder. Or maybe they're not into celebrating V-day much anymore. :shrug: Up until my grandfather got sick he and my grandmother always did something together even if it was going out to a restaurant they both liked and getting some chocolates.

[librechik]

51. if this were Clinton it's THE ONLY thing that would be discussed

screw the poor guy in the hospital.

[blm]

53. And THAT is the bottom line to this whole episode. NO WAY would this HUGE

part of the story be ignored by the press.

[Straight Shooter]

54. To those who cannot imagine Cheney having a mistress.

Hitler had a mistress. As another poster noted, Kissinger had the lovely Jill. There are all kinds of repulsive individuals who manage to find a lover/confidante/whatever.

Powerful men can be incredibly different in private moments. There can actually be tenderness and affection shown. What we see of Cheney, what the world sees of Cheney, that's not what his mistress would see. There is also the strong possibility that if this is an affair, it's one of mutual benefit. She may not particularly enjoy the notion of Dick's affections, but his power gets her where she wants to go. I think the terms are "whore" and "pimp."

[blm]

55. Some may be too young to recall Jennifer Fitzgerald, Poppy Bush's mistress

who he kept around for over ten years without the media hounding him about it.

[Little Star]

64. I never heard about Ms. Fitzgerald. Interesting. They are

all such good christian men worring about family values and all! Barf!!

[blm]

92. Claiming to be devoted Christians is part of the routine - they all do it.

Remember when Ken Lay played that act?

[Straight Shooter]

79. Yes, as Washington Post once reported, very tongue-in-cheek ...

"... she served him in a variety of positions." :7

[blm]

81. Hahah....I remember that one.

.

[Jara sang]

60. The plot thickens...

Just who was in this "hunting party"? Ambassador from Switzerland, is that Cheney's girl? Or the one who owns the "ranch"?

[HamdenRice]

62. No, all Cheney and Armstrong have in common is greed, power, corruption ..

I think I figured it out here, all the connections, lobbying and campaign contributions:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x417384

PS Sorry if this is self-serving but I did a lot of work and my OP is sinking like a stone on GD.

[blm]

67. Doesn't exclude them being bedfellows. Jennifer was also "working" with

old Poppy Bush for many years.

[HamdenRice]

69. Yes, but the illegal lobbying and corruption are easily documented ...

I'm kind of amazed that no one is interested

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x417384

[blm]

73. Gave it a kick.

A new subject line might do the trick.

[HamdenRice]

76. Thanks -- I shortened the subject line maybe after you read it. nt

[chat_noir]

72. Groucho quote

Here's to our wives and girlfriends...may they never meet!

[never_get_over_it]

80. Somebody please answer this question

Attending the hunting party

Evil Dick , the guy he shot, Swiss Miss and Mrs. Armstrong andyone else other than security nad such

Was Mr. Armstrong around - is there a Mr. Armstrong....anyone know the answer

[goodhue]

88. Mr. Armstrong is dead

Ms. Armstrong a widower. As for the ambassador, it appears she may be single.

[goodhue]

89. There is a Mr. Willeford

The Ambassador has two adult children, Emily Ann and Nancy Kathryn, and is married to Austin physician, Dr. George Willeford, III.

[blm]

91. And why wsn't HE accompanying his wife on Valentine's weekend?

Seems pretty damn odd.

[never_get_over_it]

90. Thanks! eom

[Cleita]

82. Sure, it has to be the money and the power, because

those two geriatric geezers can't be a sexual turn on in any way. That's what my husband used to call a two bagger. You put a paper bag over his head and the other one over your's in case his falls off.

[kayice]

96. Did anyone see 'WifeSwap' last night?

That Repub beer-swillin', huntin, flag-wavin', ain't slept with his wife for 10 years--- sure got friendly with that 'tree hugger' (as he called her) real fast-- why does Dick Cheney remind me of this guy today? :silly:

[Carni]

98. No offense to your theory...

But I just don't see Cheney romancing anyone on valentine's day...I can certainly see him having illicit adventures with women (probably degrding ones to the women) but I don't see him as the type that would pay homage to a woman on valentine's day.

JMO

[blm]

100. Even Hitler had his dalliances, plus THIS sweetie made Dick TONS of money.

And he has made HER tons of money in return.

[Carni]

103. True

Even though some of them killed themselves!

I guess I just can't picture any human woman liking that POS enough to want to spend Valentine's day with him :(

UG! TURN OFF THE VISUAL! Bleccckkkkk!

[bliss_eternal]

105. I'm guessing she doesn't have to like him

if she's being paid to be there. Add to that, everyone looks the same in the dark... ;)

:hi:

[leftchick]

99. wait, did cheney get a blow job?

otherwise this don't mean shit. :(

[Hissyspit]

107. He did a blow job: he BLEW away his hunting buddy! n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

106. I posted last night about Henry Kissinger, who was

IMO quite unattractive even back in the Nixon years, and who said "Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." Jill St. John and Henry the K have been mentioned but Henry also married a beautiful, and much younger, woman.

Ugly old guys with money and power can get women, even very beautiful women. Not all of us will do anything for money and power but they don't need all of us, do they?

[Magginkat]

110. I had forgotten Kissinger's wife

She appears to be young enough to be his daughter if not his granddaughter! That woman must have a stomach of cast iron to be able to look at that old goat and then get in bed with him.
Same goes for Cheney.

Creep is a mild mannered word when describing those two.