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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:38 PM
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You might want to know-Iran 10 yrs. from nuke but 1 month from oil market
Why, if Iran is ten years away from a bomb, is the situation given such urgency now?

03/24/05 "AMIN" - - Iran does not pose a threat to the United State because of its nuclear projects, its WMD, or its support to "terrorists organizations" as the American administration is claiming, but in its attempt to re-shape the global economical system by converting it from a petrodollar to a petroeuro system. Such conversion is looked upon as a flagrant declaration of economical war against the US that would flatten the revenues of the American corporations and eventually might cause an economic collapse.

In June of 2004 Iran declared its intention of setting up an international oil exchange (a bourse) denominated in the Euro currency. Many oil-producing as well as oil-consuming countries had expressed their welcome to such petroeuro bourse. The Iranian reports had stated that this bourse may start its trade with the beginning of 2006. Naturally such an oil bourse would compete against London’s International Petroleum Exchange (IPE), as well as against the New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX), both owned by American corporations.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8354.htm

The Bourse Conspiracy
Our Intervention in the Middle East May Be Fueled by a Motive Most Mundane

Why, if Iran is ten years away from a bomb, is the situation given such urgency now?

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2006/021406Wellen.shtml
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:40 PM
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1. OMG!!!
I am so fwightened!!!

Someone HOLD ME!

Heh.
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:43 PM
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2. spot on underpants
nothing else comes close to explaining the utter lunacy of attacking Iran. The oil issue is often cited as the underlying rationale but the dollar and the oily stuff are Siamese twins.

There is a good article floating around that was penned a couple of days ago titled "Petrodollars and nuclear weapons proliferation". Google that exact phrase to find it. The article is pretty detailed and is around 14-16 pages if saved as an .html file. Worth looking into it if you have not seen the article yet because it goes into detail about the background issues.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:51 PM
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6. Hell if *I* can figure this out ... (link to article)
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:43 PM
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3. I Guess You Haven't Seen This Yet
http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=28491

U.S. REVISES ASSESSMENT ON IRAN'S NUKES


WASHINGTON -- The United States has quietly revised its assessment on
Iran's nuclear weapons program.
Officials said the U.S. intelligence community has determined that Iran
became capable of enriching uranium and completing the nuclear fuel cycle.
They said the new assessment envisioned Iran as ready to produce fissile
material for its first weapons.
"I would say that Iran does have the capability to develop nuclear weapons
and the delivery means for those weapons," Undersecretary of State Robert
Joseph said.


Don't know much about the source but if true, How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient.

Jay
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:48 PM
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5. Read the quote again
"I would say that Iran does have the capability to develop nuclear weapons
and the delivery means for those weapons,"

Is he saying that they have that capability NOW? Are they soon to have it completed?

I don't mean this to argue with you I think that at this point we all know better than to take anything coming out of anyone's mouth at face value. Anyone in this administration especially.

Yes, the quote implies that but it doesn't actually say it.

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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:54 PM
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7. I'm With Ya...
I just wanted to show how the gub is starting to shift the plying field. And they are doing it "quietly".

Jay
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:19 AM
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12. "We know for a fact Iraq has nuclear weapons."
And we know for a fact bush & Cabal were LYING.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:45 PM
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4. K & R
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:04 PM
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8. Isn't that why we went after saddam? Didn't he threaten to do that too?
My memory fails me but didn't we go after OBL because he threatened to do something...but I forget what. I hope someone out there knows and will post.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:27 PM
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10. From the second link
Revisiting the recent past, prior to our invasion, was Iraq too going euro? Indeed, Saddam Hussein had decided to make euros the currency of choice for his Food for Oil program in November 2000. Lt. Col. (Retired) Karen Kwiatkowski, former Pentagon and NSA staffer, among others, maintained this was a prime reason for the US invasion.

William Clark, the author of Petrodollar Warfare: Oil, Iraq and the Future of the Dollar, concurred: "The Real Reason for this upcoming war is this administration's goal of preventing further OPEC momentum towards the euro as an oil transaction currency standard."

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:07 PM
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9. I have been following this a little more closely in the recent weeks...
...the level of "threat" the Iranians now pose to the U.S. has gone up as the deadline gets ever-closer....
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:16 AM
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11. K & R
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freefall Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:56 AM
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13. K&R
Thanks for posting. :kick:
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 06:00 PM
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14. I've been talking about this, with many links, for weeks now.
But the threads sink like a stone. Guess it takes somebody who's better known to get it out there.

Whatever. Just so people start talking it up.
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