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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:36 PM
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Bush Tags Bloggers As Terrorists
by: Patriot Daily
February 12, 2006 at 08:01:18 America/Los_Angeles
(linked to by Raw Story - promoted by Maryscott O'Connor)



While not a surprise, given all that has transpired in Bush’s term, it still was a shocker to read that bloggers are now “terrorists.” The nature of 'blogger terrorist acts' should be a concern for both liberal and conservative bloggers: “Deliberate misinformation campaigns” may well describe actions taken by right-wingers and “activist calls” describes actions by bloggers regardless of political affiliation.


Patriot Daily :: Bush Tags Bloggers As Terrorists

Homeland Security completed its “Cyber Storm” wargame to test how our government “would respond to devastating attacks over the Internet from anti-globalization activists, underground hackers and bloggers.” Given that homeland security ran the “wargame,” one may infer that the nature of the attacks by bloggers must be national security related. And, given that the major national security fear of our government is terrorists, then it looks like bloggers have made our government’s hit list of potential terrorists. But, what is the nature of this “terrorist crime” that was the subject of these wargames?

“Participants confirmed parts of the worldwide simulation challenged government officials and industry executives to respond to deliberate misinformation campaigns and activist calls by Internet bloggers, online diarists whose "Web logs" include political rantings and musings about current events.”
There are other indications that the Bush administration deems bloggers well within the reach of any definition of terrorist, if for no other reason than the crime of dissent and criticism. There are also indicators that relevant parties would be somewhat prepared to assist in the nabbing of terrorist bloggers:

(1) In what may have been a precursor to US bloggers, the US military and government apparently were not offended (at least did not take any publicly disclosed action to free the blogger) when an Iraqi blogger was arrested, interrogated and imprisoned for the crime of reading comments on another blogger’s website at a public café:


“Then finally I understood why I was there, after few hours. Security guards at the university had printed out all the websites I was reading while I was online there. They were accusing me of “reading terrorism sites” and “having communications with foreign terrorists”.
“Do you know what these pages are?”

I looked at them and figured out they were the comment section of Raed in the Middle!!

I opened the comments section while browsing in the university, read some comments, and didn’t even post anything. But these people don’t seem to know what the internet is, and they don’t speak English, so I was a major suspect of being an assistant of al Zarqawi maybe! Or that I have a terrorist group of my own, with foreign connections!

I was accused of terrorism, and sent to jail after they decided that I’m not helping myself because I am not helping them!!!


http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5963
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:08 PM
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1. I guess by your lack of replies that no one finds this interesting.
I guess it is almost expected, the thought that * thinks we are all terrorist....
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:16 PM
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2. If we post, we're terrorists, so no post. So cheer up.
Because you have just won an all-expenses paid trip to gauntanomo bay, with a FREE STAY for anyone you name!
EXPIRY: When the right wing loses power.
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:46 PM
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5. Ya, you must be right on that issue.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:47 AM
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30. Welcome to DU!
:headbang:

Guess I'll be heading to Guantanamo too now. :scared:

-Laelth
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:18 PM
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3. This directly affects DU -- you would expect a bigger response ..
They are as much as telling us that in the event of another "terrorist attack" dissenting blogs and forums will be shut down -- or worse.

Maybe that's what those detention centers are being constructed for.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:48 PM
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6. What detention centers?
And until there's a defined 'why', it's silly to conjecture.

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:51 PM
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8. the ones Congresswoman, Cynthia McKinney was just talking about...
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 08:53 PM by bpilgrim
Congresswoman, Cynthia McKinney, Says America Run By Criminal Syndicate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2109118&mesg_id=2109118

psst... pass the word ;->

peace
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:09 PM
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33. Topic Moved to 911 forum
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x71109

The Mods deleted it from LBN after receiving 56 nominations, and over 60 responses. I was un-able to keep the responses and nominations. I had to make a new topic.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:54 PM
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10. These detention centers:


KBR awarded Homeland Security contract for US detention centers.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp...

KBR awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M (HAL) By Katherine Hunt
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- KBR, the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton Co. (HAL) , said Tuesday it has been awarded a contingency contract from the Department of Homeland Security to supports its Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency. The maximum total value of the contract is $385 million and consists of a 1-year base period with four 1-year options. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005. The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs, KBR said. The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster, the company said.


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rg302200 Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 09:11 PM
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15. This is where they will put those who burn their draft cards...
because the draft is coming back my friends...oh yes it is!
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:45 AM
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26. Now, now
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 03:47 AM by libhill
that would ony apply to minorities and poor white people who have the audacity to refuse to "fight for our freedom". College Republicans like Buffy and Duffy have other priorities, and can't be troubled with going to war, don't ya know - going into the military is just sooo tiresome and working class.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 09:02 PM
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13. it was posted here last week
or so... but this is a big confirmation to what many of us have been suspecting & this just confirms it.

peace
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Lib4Life2006 Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:57 PM
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12. Yep
Yep.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:21 PM
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4. That's really interesting
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 08:23 PM by meganmonkey
and it looks like a great site.

Our civil liberties are shrinking and shrinking, aren't they? "...the crime of dissent and criticism..." We are all guilty of that!

(and Higans - check your PMs)
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:49 PM
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7. Do you think he even knows what a blog is?
Or is he just repeating what he's being spoon fed?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 09:09 PM
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14. You're joking, right? You're asking about Bush**, right?
It's just one of them Goldern thangs on the Internets. Finer distinctions are beyond him, as in all subjects.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 06:50 PM
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42. hee!hee! Somehow, I just don't see Bush-y having a bunch of
favorite blogs he visits regularly!
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:53 PM
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9. Bush is right, we are terrorists...
Imagine living with the threat of a progressive blogger finally connecting all the dots and exposing the entirety of his crimes. I imagine that must be terrifying for Mr. Bush. If I were a despot, I'd be terrified of the people too.

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:57 PM
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11. Imagine what he will be saying about the "activist judge"...
once he gets convicted.
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 09:49 PM
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16. You think * would actually answer a sup-ina???
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 09:50 PM by Higans
It wouldn't be the first time * did a "failure to appear"
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:42 AM
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29. One only needs to fear what is a threat.
Now how do you define a threat?

Somebody who merely opens his mouth?

Somebody who has proven time again to put action behind it?

Or both?

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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:05 PM
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17. I wish
I could say I was surprised/stunned/angry. I think I've reached the point where nothing shocks me. What this admin and it's cronies do, how they keep getting away with it, it's all too much. To be honest, death camps would not shock me at this point. The gradual build to a totalitarian fascist state has been cheerleaded by the repukes, and accepted by the dems.

At any time they could create the "Federal Police Force" aka the American Gestapo, legislated in the PATRIOT Act. I have given up expecting the dems to fight them, they don't want to appear "weak on terrorism" so they will let * do whatever he wants to terrorists, then insurgents, then subversives, then disruptionists, then liberals.

These aren't the words of a reactionary slippery-slope paranoid, but rather the final acceptance of what has happened. The dems have given up being a party of opposition. They fight for scraps, and fall in line simply b/c they're afraid it'll cost them votes. We as their constituents are left with no one to rely on, the Alito confirmation confirmed this, saying/voting "No" is not enough, they won't fight for us.

There is no one fighting FOR us, so this is what it feels like to have no hope. . .
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:06 PM
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18. To Bush/Cheney, Everyone Who Disagrees With Them is a Terrorist n/t
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:15 PM
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19. "and then they came for the dissidents..." This is a lot more important
than it's being given credit for thus far.

This effects all of us and millions of other American citizens, right and left alike.
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TheModernTerrorist Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:44 PM
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20. freeps better watch out
they'll be targeted next.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:18 AM
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21. I'm betting they're cooking up schemes on how to take down all
free - i.e., not under their thumb/censored - internet traffic. After all, we're all "terrorists" - read "informed dissenters who might wake up some sheeple."
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Harald Ragnarsson Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:38 AM
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22. Bloggers are camoflage
The real target is are these fellows:

"Homeland Security completed its “Cyber Storm” wargame to test how our government “would respond to devastating attacks over the Internet from anti-globalization activists,"

You have to ask yourself why anti-globilization activists are such a threat to someone who takes an oath to uphold and defend the constitution, people and territory of the US from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:09 AM
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23. Rumsfeld's new DOD motto: "Fight the Net"
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:32 AM
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24. very interesting link you have there...
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:34 AM
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25. Late-night ruminations.
Was the Alito fight a wargame?

"Call Ben Nelson's office, he's holding a finger to the wind."

I thought at the time, "Who says so?", but didn't ask because if we had any chance to keep Alito off the court, we had to fight. But there was, at that point in the process, really NO chance of winning. And Ben Nelson did not care how many people called him to support the fillibuster. He did not care at all.

We put out a concerted effort, dare I say massive? So was it a wargame?
___

When Michael Savage starts ranting in the early evening hours about if the US is going to win the war, it is time to think about interring the enemies within, I suspect that there is a RW talking point out there. I wonder if Rush or Glenn Beck will pick up that meme.

___

I hope this is nothing more than late night willies. I know I'm paranoid, but do you think they're out to get me?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:52 AM
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27. *****BBC: the Pentagon is developing ways to DESTROY the internet****
except as a vehicle for their propaganda. Think I'm exaggerating? Read this, the whole thing. It was posted at DU,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2071702
but I don't think people read the whole article to see how serious it really is:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4655196.stm

Again, read the ENTIRE article. You'll note that this didn't get reported like this in the US press, if it was reported at all.



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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:41 AM
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28. So when will it occur; martial law; DU goes down; all within locked up?
:shrug:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:01 AM
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31. Dayum!!! Political rantings are considered "terrorism".
We're all in deep caa caa.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:35 PM
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32. Here we go...
Clampdown is ON. Everything we tried to warn the public about is happening.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:12 PM
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34. "Anti Globalization Activists"---now we know what this war is all about
Since these kinds of bloggers are to be considered terra-ists.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:16 PM
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35. Argh, more of the "you're either with us or against us" shit.
I cant take it any more!

:argh:
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 01:13 AM
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36. Kick this so that we know what is going on.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:06 AM
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37. kick
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 03:19 AM
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38. Internet bloggers
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tirechewer Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 03:30 AM
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39. This would seem a little more far fetched....
If they had not tagged me at least twice. For details visit this post...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=425963&mesg_id=438525

Then if you like follow the links in it to say "Hello, and welcome aboard to the covert representatives of the Bush administration.;)

It was a surprise party for me, so the more the merrier.
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 03:11 PM
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40. Kick it.
Lick it,

Don't stick it in the trash.

You'll be the next to be harassed,

For simply visiting this site.
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 04:55 PM
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41. Bloggers are Terrorist = the pot calling the kettle black
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 06:52 PM
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43. Isn't everybody?
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:26 PM
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44. Time to wake up folks.....

from the BBC Yikes!


And, in a grand finale, the document recommends that the United States should seek the ability to "provide maximum control of the entire electromagnetic spectrum".

US forces should be able to "disrupt or destroy the full spectrum of globally emerging communications systems, sensors, and weapons systems dependent on the electromagnetic spectrum".

Consider that for a moment.

The US military seeks the capability to knock out every telephone, every networked computer, every radar system on the planet.

Are these plans the pipe dreams of self-aggrandising bureaucrats? Or are they real?

The fact that the "Information Operations Roadmap" is approved by the Secretary of Defense suggests that these plans are taken very seriously indeed in the Pentagon.

And that the scale and grandeur of the digital revolution is matched only by the US military's ambitions for it.



DR


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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:59 PM
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45. The Communication technology is to quick.
They can't control it any more. therefore they need to destroy it all. We all know too much. We move to fast. They can't kill us all. Say good bye to your first amendment and hello to George Orwell's 1984. This is it, the final battle. The battle for who controls information. The government, or the People.

"But wait" you say, "I thought we the people controlled the government." mabe at one time, but it is all crumbling now.

God Bless you People of Earth. I fear it won't be much longer before we will be forced to swear allegiance to Big Brother.
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:44 PM
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46. Kick this for the lunch time readers.
Cause all the bloggers should know:

You might be next!

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/02/16/abu_ghraib/portfolio.html
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