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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:03 AM
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If Hackett in Ohio has the support why doesn't he stay in?
A caller on Malloy's show (the one who called in about Waxmen) said how in all the polls showed Hackett clearly a head of everyone including Brown. If that's true why didn't he stay in and tell Reid and Schumer "hell no"? If money was such a concern why couldn't he have asked the regular folks like people here on DU and the blogs or the DNC? Do you think the money is the real reason or was there something else going on?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:04 AM
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1. To be honest with you....
I think he was looking for an out...

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:04 AM
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2. because he probably can't win the Democratic Primary
since primary voters are mostly liberal leaning which benefits Brown.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:08 AM
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3. But according to this caller from Ohio
he was beating Brown in the polls. So wouldn't he win the primaries? :shrug:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:10 AM
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4. Do you think Republicans would like to stir the pot in the Democratic
primaries? Divide the Democrats and get us divided going into the GE? I do.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:11 AM
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5. Malloy just read an Email from someone
and saying how some republicans might've done this desguised as democrats. I think I do remember reading here at DU there were some democrats in Ohio who weren't really democrats. Maybe it was them? But why would they want to back a liberal like Brown over Hackett who's new to politics?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:49 AM
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10. When I registered in OH, they never asked my party affil.
so I suppose the primaries are open, and seeing as DeWine's unchallenged on his side, every Republican with some time on his hands could vote. And if they're thinking strategically, they'd vote Brown into the position, because they know Hackett is a bigger threat.

Here in Southern OH, Brown's a virtual unknown, but will carry the reputation as a "liberal from the North". He'll never carry my county, or the ones next to mine, but I can see Hackett having a fighting chance against DeWine. Hackett's plain talk and veteran background plays much better here.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:15 AM
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12. Yep, DeWine will be elected again. nt
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:20 AM
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13. It's all just strange
Oh and they did that here too with registration. They don't ask you your political affiliation which I think is much safer after what happened in 2004 with democratic registration forums.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:21 AM
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6. The party establishment would have been against him
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 12:25 AM by ticapnews
I know how much contempt people here have for the party establishment, but running for the US Senate while they were openly endorsing his opponent would have been impossible for Hackett. The precinct captains, the top tier activists who have the networks of seasoned volunteers on call, the big money contributors - all would be lined up against Hackett. Sure, he could have tried an outsider campaign but the chances of that succeeding were nil. He is a political neophyte, going up against the party machine. Easy for all of us here to say, "Screw the establishment and run!" but seriously put yourselves in Hackett's shoes and consider, after everything you've been through, if you would really want to subject yourself and your family to that.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:21 AM
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7. Hackett said on Ed schultz today that
Reid has always treated him well.

Here the interview with Hackett.
http://www.bigeddieradio.com/
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:23 AM
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8. I'll have to go and listen
Thanks.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:23 AM
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14. So what's the deal now?
:shrug:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:03 PM
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16. What do you mean? n/t
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:26 AM
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9. The problem is
that the Party will not back him, even if he wins.

This happens all the time. When a candidate wins a primary without the organization's endorsement, then they will not campaign for him, will not put up signs for him, will not buy ad time, will not knock on doors, will not phone bank, and a good number will not pull the lever on election day.

We had a similar situation here in Southern New Jersey last fall. One of the Republican Assembly candidates in the first district "forgot" to file his paperwork, and the organization put up an alternative as a write-in in the primary. An insurgent candidate beat their anointed one. The other Assembly candidate refused to run with him. No names on signs. Never mentioned in the ads. The organiztion shut him out.

As a result, BOTH Republicans got trounced in the race.

If Paul Hackett had won the primary with the organization against him, he would have had no chance in the general.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:06 AM
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11. So couldn't he do things his way?
Local press and radio and liberal radio etc? Internet? Grass rooting efforts?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:47 AM
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15. That's what happened to Howard Dean
it's the DSCC/DCCC - they think they run the show. The Senate is so elitist it's sickening, and they don't want brash yahoos who speak their mind coming into the House of Lords and mucking it up. People like that belong in the House of Commons.

I finally got the DSCC to stop sending me their whoring emails every day.
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