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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:54 AM
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To all Whittington death cheerleaders
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 02:55 AM by Katherine Brengle
Someone already posted on this, but the name of the thread may not be attracting the people who need to read it.

Even if it meant Cheney's political demise and the demise of everyone who ever shook his blood-stained money-grubbing hand, I would never wish for Whittington's death.

I think this incident has brought out the worst in some DUers, and that saddens me.

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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:59 AM
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1. Did this really happen? I missed it, fortunately.
I hope the poor guy will be ok. Probably Cheney isn't as good a shot as he used to be. My dad sure isn't, much to the delight of the Colorado wildlife:)
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:12 AM
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43. There are hateful people in all groups. DU no exception.
Sorta like the celebrations that took place when JFK and MLK were assassinated.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:44 PM
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114. There's a big difference between 'gallows humor' and 'celebration'!
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 02:45 PM by TahitiNut
I think the faux fastidiousness in this thread is just more self-serving crap.


I have a lot of expertise in 'self-serving crap,' too. :evilgrin:

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:59 AM
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2. I'm not seeing any death cheerleaders. This is offensive. n/t
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:01 AM
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5. look a little harder...
There are definitely some posters who seem delighted at the idea that the VP could end up having killed a man--apparently the political coup of it would be worth one man's death (on top of the deaths of countless others in the past 5 years).
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:15 AM
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19. Well, there are some posters who want to make DU look bad, I guess.
But are they really DUers or "visitors". I say "visitors", not DUers.

Sorry, you theory doesn't fly, not eve a little bit, not at all for that matter.

Ask that the thread be pulled since you have no evidence.

Thanks.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:18 PM
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62. The VP has killed tens of thousands.
> There are definitely some posters who seem delighted at the
> idea that the VP could end up having killed a man...

The VP and his puppet P have killed tens of thousands; possibly
hundreds of thousands. That one more, especially a Republican
crony who helped put thse two bastards in office, dies is really
no big deal, one way or another, in the grand scheme of death
caused by the Neocons.

Tesha
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:59 PM
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72. I don't think anyone is "delighted" that a man might die
However, it is certainly a possibility and exploring the what if's of any possibility is grounds for discussion and guess what? THIS is a discussion board.

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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:21 PM
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134. yes, i saw the post where you joked he was DOA, you're right, it's horrid
and you should stop!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:59 AM
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3. Who on earth is "cheerleading for his death"?
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 03:00 AM by Bluebear
Is it someone who joined in the last week or so? Please don't label them as "some DUers" yet in that case.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:02 AM
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6. apparently some jerk up at 3am nursing a tumor...
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 03:05 AM by thebigidea
... said as deaths go, it wouldn't be bad to go out at 78, filthy rich, shot by the VP.

Me being the jerk, I'm wondering where this cheerleading thing came in. I'm hardly jumping around with pom poms at his bedside. Just said it was a better way to go than say, Katrina.

Or say, some untreated illness due to lack of insurance.

Still, maybe we can blow this up into some huge Malkin-like ordeal, rather than the black mutterings of one overly medicated moron.

Unless there's some other huge spate of death cheerleading i've been missing...
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:07 AM
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8. Ah, I see what you're saying.
Nobody should have to suffer but many people will lose their lives way before they reach 78, thanks to compassionate conservatism.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:07 AM
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I was gonna say it sounds like Michelle Malkin is trolling for material nt
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:10 AM
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11. i'm sure we'll see that later this week.
And Tweety et al. will happily join in with the new narrative.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:01 AM
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4. Where?
I haven't noticed anyone saying that.
I'd freak out if I did.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:07 AM
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9. Here's one
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x425418

Not cheerleading per se. Just a tad too gleeful for my personal tastes.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:11 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. Yes, black humour can be disturbing.
But I can't really condemn it because I indulge occasionally myself.

I try to draw the line at cheering about another's suffering.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:12 AM
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15. jinx
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:13 AM
Response to Reply #15
17. I owe you a coke!
:rofl:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:12 AM
Response to Reply #9
14. Black humor.
That poster would never cheerlead a death.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:17 AM
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21. Well, one but "not cheerleading" as you sa...this is an offensive thread.
It makes us look bad. It's inaccurate and without real evidence.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:25 AM
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26. Who is cheerleading?
Where? :shrug:

I see some black humor here and there, but no "cheerleading."

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:39 AM
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31. Really, " where's the beef." I'm waiting.... waiting... waiting...
ah, :wtf:, it's bed time.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:27 AM
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27. Not gleeful..just a "dark" sense of humor
Sorry if it offended people..We HAVE done these before, and if his FRIENDS say he's ok and joshing around with Dick on the phone (or so we're told), it seems like he'll pull through..

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:28 AM
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28. Is your sig picture supposed to be doing that?
Sorry for the change in subject. But the image not found button with a fishie swimming past it is freaking me out.

Which probably means I should go to bed.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:43 AM
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33. Yes.. it's a red-ex fish
Apparently my 200 high pic I made was not correct in its bytes or whatever and someone reported me, so I found an eensy teensy one until I can figure out if I want to try again :)..It's a p/a thing :)
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:10 AM
Response to Reply #9
38. Black humor does not count.
It is a totally different thing, and nothing is served by its conflation with actually cheering.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:40 AM
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45. Maybe bad taste, but certainly not cheer leading for the man's demise...
All threads do is give outsiders ammunition against us. I can just hear it. Today on DU, Why are DUers gleeful about Whittington's imminent demise? THIS thread is in bad taste, IMHO. It points an unnecessary and untrue light onto DUers with the grandstanding title.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:05 AM
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7. I really don't see a DU mob one screaming "Die, Die Die".
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 03:06 AM by henslee
But lets face it, the prospectsof a 78 year old man getting shot in the heart are not good. And to be fair, until the heart attack, this thing was being spun as a mishap so until we all knew things took a turn for the worse, the jovial tones are excusable. And now that things have taken a turn for the worst, and in light that our VP is the shooter, it is only natural to speculate based upon the ramifications of thus unfolding, grim event. Sure when you see a thousand speculations, poor Mister Whittington suddenly seems very objectified as would anybody.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:12 AM
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16. I think it was the gleeful tombstone that got me
That's somebody's grampa, I'm sure.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:16 AM
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20. Did you see the White House is joking over this?
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 03:17 AM by Bluebear
I am betting the grandchildren are more apt to hear the Whote House jokes over this incident rather than read a random post on DU at 3am :) See:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=418183&mesg_id=418183
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:22 AM
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24. That totally sucks.
Lowlife trash.:mad:

Why am I not surprised?

On that note, I'm going off to beddy bye.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:30 AM
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29. G'nite love
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:24 AM
Response to Reply #16
25. Funny, LC, I was going to respond to your post about not wishing
any harm to him. Of course, I feel likewise. And his survival might lead to some unforseen positivite result byond the simple gift of his life. Life is funny, that way.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #7
58. He wasn't "shot in the heart". Please get facts straight.
# 7 1/2 bird shot are very small. One shot got into a blood vessel and travelled to the heart.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #58
88. And you know this because.........????
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:08 AM
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10. these things happen
guys get peppered to death from time to time.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:11 AM
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13. And after all it WAS his own fault. The White House said so
heney's companion at fault in shooting, White House says
BY WILLIAM DOUGLAS
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - The White House blamed the 78-year-old man whom Vice President Dick Cheney shot during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas for the incident, as officials struggled Monday to explain why they waited nearly 24 hours before making the news public.

White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan tried to absolve Cheney of blame for shooting wealthy Austin lawyer Harry Whittington, saying that hunting "protocol was not followed by Mr. Whittington when it came to notifying others that he was there. And so, you know, unfortunately, these types of hunting accidents happen from time to time."

Several hunting experts were skeptical of McClellan's explanation. They said Cheney might have violated a cardinal rule of hunting: Know your surroundings before you pull the trigger.

"Particularly identify the game that you are shooting and particularly identify your surroundings, that it's safe to shoot," said Mark Birkhauser, the incoming president of the International Hunter Education Association, a group of fish and wildlife agencies. "Every second, you're adjusting your personal information that it is a safe area to shoot or it's not a safe area to shoot."

Safe-hunting rules published by the National Rifle Association and the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department echo Birkhauser's advice.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=408929
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:15 AM
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18. it'll undoubtedly help Cheney connect with Heartland voters
it shows that he shares their simple, honest values: hard work, draft deferments, and shooting old men in the face.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:19 AM
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22. not like that phony Kerry
Kerry went around posing with guns, but did he ever shoot an old man in the face?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:46 AM
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56. First we criticize Cheney for dodging the draft...
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 09:47 AM by IanDB1
then, when he finally shoots somebody, the we're all over him for that, too.

We've got to get this straightened-out before Rush Limbaugh shoots one of the doctors that gave him Oxycontin.

Anal cyst or not, Limbaugh is just as likely to shoot someone in the face as any other drug-addicted right-wing gasbag. Some people say.


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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:22 AM
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23. Hannity's going to love this one. n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:40 AM
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32. Hannity can
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:45 AM
Response to Reply #32
34. under no circumstances let Colmes suck the poison from the wound, though
He's tried that trick one time too many!

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #32
57. Hannity can go hunting with Cheney if he wants to...
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 09:54 AM by IanDB1
I'll even buy him the hat.



Or a complete hunting outfit like this one:


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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:32 AM
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30. Not cheering, but...
He's one of them, and I could really care less if his republican scumbag ass kissing activities contribute to his demise at the ripe old age of 78. I'd say he's had enough time to shit on the human race and rape the earth.
These pigs play for keeps, and there is no room for weakness and hand-wringing when it gets ugly.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:45 AM
Response to Reply #30
35. Wishing someone's demise, as in death, is not very kind. Wishing...
someone's demise in the decision making progress is quite acceptable.

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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #35
125. Whittington probably supported the war in Iraq, which has
killed unknown number(s) of Iraqis, both combatants and non-. IMHO, it is fitting and appropriate that a death-monger like him go out by this method. Does that make me a "cheerleader"? Or just a believer in quasi instant karma?
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:51 AM
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36. Molly Ivins column was posted on AlterNet today. She has
known Whittington for years, through Texas politics. She rates him as an oldtime Pug with ethics. Says he has stood against the bad guys many times through the years, politically. Although she is not a lover of Pugs, she expressed her liking for Whittington. I trust Molly.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:08 AM
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37. I haven't seen even one person cheering for his death.
Can you cite some links?
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:42 AM
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39. Well said, Katherine! (n/t)
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:48 AM
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40. What I saw was clearly sarcasm mixed with ridicule of Rummy
and someone who apparently has a painful if not fatal illness.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 06:08 AM
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41. You mean the FuneralGate lawyer?
The guy Bush appointed to try and cover-up the feeding of Jewish corpses to wild pigs?

If the Republicans can actively take steps to facilitate the killing of an entire country for what they allege are in America's best interests, then surely we can be forgiven for passively cheering for the death of this macabre dirtbag thug if it means a regime change here.

The world can't wait.

And he is not "collateral damage."

He is an active and filthy participant in the global genocide of the human species in the long term, and in the demise of American Democracy in the short term.

The best I will say is, I hope he goes peaceful and quiet. But only because he's said he might be against the executions of some retarded people.

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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 06:58 AM
Response to Reply #41
42. Um, that thing about
Jewish corpses and wild pigs . . . wasn't that in Florida?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #42
47. Yes, but the company was from Texas.
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 08:39 AM by IanDB1
Here is a link to a BradBlog comment:

COMMENT #6
...Terri said on 2/13/2006 @ 1:57pm PT...

Harry Whittington is the lawyer that was appointed to head the Funeral Commission in Texas during the Funeralgate scandal. His job was to make it all go away before Booosh ran for POTUS. Boosh had already perjured himself in this case and it was necessary that this all go away so Boosh wouldn't have to perjure himself again. Whittington arranged the pay off to make it all go away, including the whistle blowers silence.

Google Funeralgate, Lawyer Whittington.

http://www.bushwatch.com/gravedigger.htm

http://www.hereinreality.com/funeralgate.htm

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue45/pols.sci.html

More:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002414.htm#6

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #42
48. Another BradBlog comment post about Whittington and Funeralgate
COMMENT #7
...Terri in S. FL said on 2/13/2006 @ 2:06pm PT...

Just one more thing. The Funeral company that was in trouble in TX in the Funeralgate scandal also had some problems in FL. For those of you in FL, you'll remember Menorah Gardens, the case where they were throwing bodies into the woods after people paid thousands for gravesites and embalming.

Coincidently, this is the exact same company that Bush appointed to do the temporary morgues after Katrina. Well, because they're just so competent.

Heck of a job.

You may want to also Google Armstrong Ranch Texas and read about the family that owns the ranch that the shooting occurred on. This is the 1% that Bush passes those tax cuts for, plus they have their hands all over GOP politics and , of course, Halliburton.

More:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002414.htm#7
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #48
51. That about covers it.
I certainly wish Harry W. a long life. He should know how 'valued' his loyalty over the years has turned out to be - Darth has thrown the blame all on Harry. Right before Darth went to a "quail lunch" on Sunday, the morning after shooting ol' Harry, and then skipping the state.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #42
49. See new thread-Remember: Harry Whittington is THE FUNERALGATE LAWYER
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:36 AM
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44. I don't understand your point of trying to draw attention to it. Why not..
post the offending thread. If it exists? :shrug:
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:28 AM
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46. I haven't seen anyone cheering for Wittington's death.
And if there was (and I missed it), then there's always the possibility it was a freeper troll.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:28 AM
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50. Why not just object to any specific posts you find objectionable?
Starting a whole thread chastising all DU'ers for something you find offensive will probably not be effective.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #50
128. Well it may be "effective" to provide something for Malkin/Hannity fodder.
But I'm sure that wasn't the purpose.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:29 AM
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52. Care to provide links to a few examples of "death cheerleading".
And since you're accusing DUer's make sure the links are from this site only.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:39 AM
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55. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:29 AM
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53. Then go ahead and cry -- get it out. Is the White House going to seize
anyone who reports on if the guy dies? That is what we are concerned about.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:35 AM
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54. Use the fucking alert button, or put people on ignore.
:eyes:
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:03 PM
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59. Like the person who posted Whitttington DOA smilie? Oh, that was you.
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trixie Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:13 PM
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61. excellent sleuthing Garbo
:nuke:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:43 PM
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63. hehehe
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #59
66. WOW. Now THAT is offensive. I guess this is a mea culpa thread then.
Good find.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #66
80. Whoa. Not just that.
When you first joined DU, did you post nearly 500 times in your first two weeks?! The OP has. Wow, talk about dedication. And here she's gone missing just when it counts. :eyes:
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:25 PM
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96. Rules reminder
Do not draw negative attention to the fact that someone is new, has a low post count, or recently became a member of Democratic Underground.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #96
98. You spent a lot of time getting deleted in another thread this AM
So, I guess you'd know about the rules. Let the mods delete what they choose. It isn't up to you, no matter what you obviously think.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:35 PM
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101. One deletion, actually. But that raises another point for you:
Do not "stalk" another member from one discussion thread to another.

I seldom remind posters about the rules. And I don't think there's a rule preventing us from doing so. I'm not asking mods to delete anything of yours, as you suggest.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:37 PM
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103. ROFL! Please. I was IN that thread, as were many others.
There were over 300 posts in it. Many people were there. It was hard to miss your discussion with others. All that scrolling we had to do to post our own thoughts kind of highlighted it.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #103
109. And now you're here, making false accusations about me from
another thread.

That's stalking, I would hazard a guess.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #109
111. Get over it. I posted here and then you showed up.
So, who would be stalking whom, exactly? Hmmm?
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #111
116. Next time you want to reference my actions in a previous thread`
get it right.

Your mistaken accusation (if it was a mistake) was an attack on me. Be man (or woman) enough to admit that and learn from it.

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:48 PM
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117. You had at least one post deleted in another thread. That's a fact.
You've even acknowledged that. No mistake other than I made it plural. Yippee. It was difficult to tell with all of that scrolling. Mea culpa. Now run along. :hi:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #59
70. Oh, snap.
So much for the OP's drive-by outrage.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:00 PM
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73. Nice Catch... I Knew This Thread Smelled Funny (nt)
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #59
87. AH, nothing like a hypocrite
:)
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #59
91. I love the smell of a slap-down in the early afternoon! :-))
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trixie Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:10 PM
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60. I don't see "members" saying anything like that
We Dems at least view this man as a human, the victim. Repukes are saying is was his fault etc. Look at the Repuke boards. They are going after the victim. We are going after the shooter, the one with the gun.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:44 PM
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64. Hey, at least no DUer shot him in the fucking FACE.
:eyes:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:46 PM
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65. I find your OP extremely offensive. If there are people "cheerleading"
here for a man's death.... I'd like you to point them out, so that they can be alerted on. There are far too many posts and threads on this subject to expect people to search and find these posts themselves... so I suggest you link to them.

Otherwise, you are only assisting those who seek to demean this site.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:53 PM
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67. Is someone actually wishing for him to die? That sucks. :(
Actually I was having a lot of fun with the jokes because I thought it wasn't serious. Now it just ain't funny anymore. :(

Someone may die because of Darth Cheney's incompetence. Yes, a lot of other people have died because of Cheney's incompetence, but wishing for one more isn't right.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #67
69. Check out post 59 here.
OP. Pot. Kettle. Just sayin'. ;)
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:53 PM
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68. So lets HIGHLIGHT these things , heh?
Not good.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #68
78. Sure. Better, you think, to behave
like freepers and pretend our faults don't exist?
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:59 PM
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71. Ya Better Check Yourself First
No one is cheerleading for anyone's death... start trouble elsewhere.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #71
75. Me thinks you got it
Smells like...something that smells ...like shit on a sandwich
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:08 PM
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79. Check Post #59
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:01 PM
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74. Many posters here asking "where?" and "what?" like an innocent V.Barbarino
strangely are some of the same who posted in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x416883

If that's not cheerleading, I don't know what is.

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #74
77. That's not cheerleading, that's speculating that the public is told lies
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 02:03 PM by txindy
Saying someone may be dead and the WH isn't reporting it, is not cheerleading for anything other than full disclosure.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #77
81. Well, there's no pom poms, if that's your point
looking through that thread there was quite a bit of giddy expectation at the prospect.

And the o.p. of that thread saying that he/she believes the guy is dead and the WH is not reporting it is so far out bizarre that it sounds like wishful thinking. There's no reason to believe it's the case, so why else pull it out of the air?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:10 PM
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82. Read into it whatever you like.
That doesn't make it true.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #82
92. That is all we can do with anything in our world.
Read into it, that is.

I was not only talking about the original post,but also the replies.

But another thing about the original post is the three exclamation points.

Please recommend if you think the guy is already dead!!!

What can we read into those? Anything? Excitement?

And then look at the original post itself:

The WH is just trying to sort things out to work the PR smoothly...IMHO.
If he is not dead now, they knew or know now that he was going to die.


No indication of WHY the person would believe this man to already be dead. Apparently his belief is based solely on the expectation that the WH would hide such a thing to work out smooth PR.
Certainly seems like he's putting the cart before the horse there.

What can we read into that, if we dare? Anything? To me it's clear....the poster is excited at the prospect that the man is already dead because it means the WH is covering up a death, which would be very bad for them if true.

!!!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #92
95. It was speculation.
By definition that is moving the proverbial cart all around the horse. You can attach any motivation you like to the speculation. Just as anyone can attach it to the OP who posts a Whittington DOA smilie (see post 59 in this thread) and then chastises others for what she herself has done.

So, you think it's "clear" what someone's motivation is by reading a post on a message board? You live in a world of certainty. Good for you. Unfortunately for me, I didn't put the batteries into my psychic powers today. I'm not that "clear."
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:39 PM
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106. Why did the poster get so excited over simple speculation?
Three exclamation points and all?!!!

And usually when people speculate there's some scrap of reason for the speculation. There was none, only further speculation that the WH would cover up his death to allow time for smooth PR.

It's foolish speculation and certainly does come accross as wishful thinking.

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:40 PM
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108. To you it comes across that way. n/t
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #108
112. Obviously. And to many others, I'm quite sure
I'm not all that special and unique, but thanks for suggesting it!

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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #74
84. thanks--i really didn't feel like hunting for the threads when everyone
had already visited them.

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #84
86. Now tell us about post #59 and the Whittington DOA smilie you posted
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 02:15 PM by txindy
We're very interested.

Adding: We're patient. You've posted nearly 500 times and you've only been on DU for two weeks. Surely you aren't getting shy now, right?
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #86
99. Neg. attention to post counts, length of membership, and calling ppl out:
All specified in the rules:

Do not draw negative attention to the fact that someone is new, has a low post count, or recently became a member of Democratic Underground.
Do not post messages with the purpose of "calling out" another member or picking a fight with another member.


The point has been made, several times already. The OP was slightly hypocritical in posting that smilie, yes.
IMO this topic still has a point.

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:32 PM
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100. That's not neg. attention. There you go attributing again.
She's posted like a fiend for two weeks, yet where's she gone now that she's taken up DU's time and bandwidth with a thread of her own creation? That's not neg. attention. That's a fact followed by a query.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #100
102. If you say so. n/t
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #102
104. Oh, absolutely. I'm admiring her energy and dedication.
Absolutely. Gee, who wouldn't?
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #99
120. Slightly hypocritical?
Sheesh. Oh, and while it may not be a rule, bullying people over the rules is obnoxious. If you have a problem use the alert button.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #84
89. Like your own post, eh?
:)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:17 PM
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90. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #84
97. You've been busted. Move along....nothing left to see here.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:02 PM
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76. I think what you are seeing is a desperation for accountability

I don't think anyone wants him to die. What you are seeing is a desperation for the adminstration to be held to account and taken down...

The fact is that this adminstration has murdered tens of thousands of people. It is strange that only when one of them holds the gun in his own hands that people find them culpable.

Think about it this way. If Bush or any of their one mongering cronies blew the head off a child with a bomb PERSONALLY, the American people would want them executed. But, if they do it indirectly by lying about a need for a war and then MAKE other people do it, people think that is fine. It is beyond weird. If they ORDER people to be tortured, that is not an issue. Sanitized killing. They have Valentine's parties and go on hunting trips while killing is done CONSTANTLY by THEIR orders.

The American people live in a state of constant delusion. I think people here want this to bring them to account because it is something that people can understand in a direct, tangible way.
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:11 PM
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83. Who cheerleaded for his death? That's sick.
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 02:12 PM by montana500
I wonder if that even really happened. Please name specific examples or delete your thread. This smells Freeper-ish.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #83
107. Nobody, that's whats galling. The assumption of the OP is bogus!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:11 PM
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85. If you're friends with an asshole like that and get accidently shot...
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 02:12 PM by JVS
you deserve it all. :nopity:
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:19 PM
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93. I'm not going to cry for Whittington if he dies.
Sorry, but it's the truth. I'm not about to take a pillow into his hospital room, but I would not be in the least disappointed by his death. Maybe that makes me a bad liberal, but so be it. The fact is that he's a scumbag of the highest order--just look at his connections. And if there's a barometer of a person's behavior, it's their treatment of animals... kindly remember that this guy was in the middle of shotgunning domesticated birds for entertainment. Anybody know knows about psychology will tell you that people treat animals they way they would treat humans if they could get away with it, and cruelty to animals is considered a warning sign for potential psychopathic behavior.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:22 PM
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94. I haven't read one post from someone wishing his death
but since Cheney is the mastermind of the pre-emptive attack on Iraq and consequently the deaths of tens of thousands of men, women and children, I personally am relishing Cheney's dilemma.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:39 PM
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105. Self loathing DUers or what? This thread is bogus, no "cheerleaders" yet
reported. I looked upthread and people are speculating on what's happened.

Apparently some Rebpublicans are too because they forced Cheney on the air to explain.

Lot's of hunters calling probably, pissed as Hell.

But there are no "cheerleaders" found. This thread is a discredit to DU and a slander.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #105
110. I agree!
Flame bait!
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #105
118. It's not just slander...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #118
123. Damn, you[re good. It's a self fulfilling prophesy I'm totally impressed
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #123
130. I refuse to take credit for finding this.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #130
133. Very interesting...credit due for solving the mystery. Still impressed.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:43 PM
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113. I agree HEARTILY with you Katherine!
You are most certainly correct about this. It saddens me that some DU'ers are just as bad as some Freepers but it's true. Humanity on both sides of the fence has a way to go but I guess we already knew that, right?

Take care girl, keep your head up.
:pals:
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #113
121. Except of course it seems nobody has actually been doing this.
Other than that, it was indeed a fine post.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #113
127. Do you agree with Katherine's post that was just pointed out to me?
Inquiring minds want to know.

Isn't this post the one instance of "cheerleading" that can be found?

Just asking.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=425498&mesg_id=430731

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #127
135. It's kinda like porn - I know it when I see it
And I believe examples have already been posted, if you haven't seen any.... fine. I have. I don't really give a shit about anybody's posting count or motivations prescribed to them by others. When some (very few) members of DU act like asses they deserve to be called on it. Hell I've even DONE it but unlike a Bushbot I don't have trouble with accountability. You will notice the OP never implicated all of DU, only a few bad actors, and apparently some of them knew who they were.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:45 PM
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115. omega minimo's thread is not about "cheerleaders" to his death
It's a kind a caring post showing the good nature of DUers. It points out that there is are many unanswered questions in this mystery and at the heart of it all lay a man who may die.

That you added that post to your OP in an attempt make you look better shows you either lack reading comprehension skills or are desperate to make DU look bad. Either way that post, unlike yours, was not intended to call out other duers for wishing ill to Mr. Whittington.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:51 PM
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119. I laugh at the late-night comedians & their jokes. but I hope he recovers
and recovers quickly and fully.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:56 PM
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122. I'm not cheerleading his death but neither am I crying over it.
I'm certainly not one to wish any human or animal suffering. But any friend of Cheney is not likely to be a very good person, and by all accounts I've read of Whittington he was definitely right up there in the elite group of greedy, lying, slimy Friends of Bu$hCo. Dying doesn't change the fact that someone was a loathesome toad in real life.

So while I agree no one should be cheerleading for the death of another human being (that would be tasteless and thoroughly Freeper-esque), I don't feel like I've seen much evidence of that here. Black humor is more what I've seen, and I'll fully admit I've laughed at some of it.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:57 PM
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124. This thread is flame-bait.
WHERE is your proof that people are "cheerleading" his death? I have YET to see the proof.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:00 PM
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126. Can you link any post where someone hopes for Whittington to die?
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 03:02 PM by Mayberry Machiavelli
Oh, and by the way, your "progressive revolution" blog linked in your profile still has no content in it. You may wish to stop linking or perhaps put something in there.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #126
129. .Here is one link Katherine Brengle won't give you....it's a blockbuster
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #129
131. Thanks autorank!
That explains a lot! Me thinks someone is contradicting themselves. :shrug:

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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:11 PM
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132. Practice what you preach, lady.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:25 PM
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136. Whittington will make it thru. DUers are letting paranoia
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 03:26 PM by Leopolds Ghost
and understandable hatred of the BFEE, get the best of them.

Folks are always late on the ball, it seems. By the time EVERYONE on the internets get riled up about the cover-up, Whittington will likely be out of the hospital and doing a tearful embrace with Cheney -- as Cheney sits down for his "Checkers" moment.

The American people are fickle. If we don't proceed carefully on this, it could be Cheney's "redemption moment" with the American people, just like Gennifer Flowers was for Clinton pre-election.

Meanwhile, the NSA Spying sinks into oblivion :-(
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Thread has become a series of personal sniping, referencing other threads and general flamebait.
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