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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 05:47 PM
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Abramoff got GOV Bush to write a letter re school choice in 1997
Edited on Tue Jan-03-06 05:52 PM by SoCalDem
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-05-06-abramoff-bush_x.htm

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The records from Abramoff's firm, obtained by The Associated Press from the Marianas under an open records request, chronicle Abramoff's careful cultivation of relations with Bush's political team as far back as 1997.

In that year, Abramoff charged the Marianas for getting then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush to write a letter expressing support for the Pacific territory's school choice proposal, his billing records show.

"I hope you will keep my office informed on the progress of this initiative," Bush wrote in a July 18, 1997, letter praising the islands' school plan and copying in an Abramoff deputy.]

White House spokeswoman Erin Healy said Thursday that Bush didn't consider Abramoff a friend. "They may have met on occasion, but the president does not know him," she said.

As for the number of Abramoff lobbying team contacts with Bush officials documented in the billing records, Healy said: "We do not know how he defines 'contacts.

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 05:52 PM
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1. Weird. Bush doesn't know Ken Lay either.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 06:08 PM
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4. Wouldn't it be fabulous if people you didn't know started sending you $$?
I would love it, :)
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 04:48 PM
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21. You know, that kind of shit happens to me every day.
Looking good, Louis.

Feeling good, Billy Ray.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 05:12 PM
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22. Louis? Billy Ray??
:shrug:
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 05:27 PM
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23. Sorry...it's an entirely gratuitous reference to the film "Trading Places"
which is the source of the "this kind of shit..." quote. At least it wasn't a Monty Python quote. Ni! Ni!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 05:53 PM
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2. He also said Kenny Boy wasn't a friend. If those two are his friends
then the poor guy :cry: ain't got no friends.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 07:21 PM
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7. It would not surprise me if KennyBoy & Jack did some deals too
Edited on Tue Jan-03-06 07:28 PM by SoCalDem
This is a very incestuous group.Enron was very "into" water, and the lobbying group with Abramoff had some water clients..


Hah!!! Just googled and lookee what came up

Center for Corporate Policy
The deputy AG is responsible for coordinating the corporate fraud task force
established after Enron. While Flanigan was at Tyco, he hired Abramoff to keep ...
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 11:44 PM
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10. This deserves a separate post!...Wow.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 11:52 PM
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11. This one is great. Deputy AG nominee had hired Abramoff!
Another corporate crony bites the dust. Former Tyco attorney Timothy Flanigan, nominated to replace Larry Thompson as deputy attorney general, withdrew himself from consideration after questions concerning his association with indicted Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff were raised. The deputy AG is responsible for coordinating the corporate fraud task force established after Enron. While Flanigan was at Tyco, he hired Abramoff to keep open a Bermuda tax haven loophole that saved Tyco millions of dollars a year in taxes. (Tyco reincorporated to Bermuda in 1997.) Tyco's lawyers told Newsweek that it has turned evidence over to the feds indicating that Abramoff defrauded the company when lobbying against legislation to bar federal contracts for corporate tax dodgers. Abramoff also helped a Bermuda-based Russian company organize a lobbying trip for Tom DeLay to London and Scotland. A recent Center for Corporate Policy investigation of "Benedict Arnold Corporations" reveals that Abramoff was just one of dozens of high-powered tax-traitor lobbyists who succeeded in blocking at least 44 bills that would have barred the corporate tax dodgers from federal contracts or closed the offshore tax haven loophole. To learn more about corporate tax traitors go HERE and HERE. http://www.corporatepolicy.org/


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 12:04 AM
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12. Just more proof that if you make the stench HUGE, people have
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 12:05 AM by SoCalDem
a hard time knowing exactly where the smell is coming from. These guys are ALL hooked together like velcro.. Poppy Bush was a very busy little troll for the 8 years they hounded Clinton ..This stuff doesn't just "happen"
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 12:11 AM
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13. Please work on a separate post. This stuff is gold!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 12:16 AM
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14. done
:)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 05:55 PM
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3. Maybe he means in the biblical sense?
Like he 'knows' Victor Ashe. I guess it all depends on what the meaning of 'is' is.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 11:25 PM
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8. or the meaning of the word "contract"?
They are all lying sacks of shit:(
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 06:10 PM
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5. and Cheney said he had never meet Edwards before the debate
either. Don't believe that they didn't know each other. That much power finds those that have equal power. Abramoff was part of his "base" for sure!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 06:31 PM
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6. Is it even safe to have people in power with such poor memories?
:evilgrin:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 11:41 PM
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9. "We don't know how he defines 'contacts'"
I guess it just depends on what "is" is, doesn't it?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 12:17 AM
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15. He had his fingers crossed while he signed the "contract"
:)
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:37 AM
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16. The heading of this thread -- with "GOV" in all caps, reminded me
of Mel Brooks as Gov. LaPetomaine in Blazing Saddles. I'd say both governers are at about the same intellectual level. But remember, Affairs of state must take precedence over affairs of state.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:42 PM
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18. PRES bush's people are saying he never met Abramoff..but GOV bush sure did
and if WE can google up this stuff, jus HOW lazy are the media..? They just accept it and ask a different question :grr:
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 12:00 PM
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17. Hah hah! Respectable media scooped by the internets again
I think that spokeswoman misspoke. She meant to say, "They may have met BRIEFLY, but Bush cannot recall."

Great find. Getting to the bottom of the Republican Crime Tsunami is going to be an undertaking akin to mapping the human genome.

Thanks, SoCalDem!
:hi:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:52 PM
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19. kicked in light of today's scottie roast...n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 04:13 PM
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20. Menem, Bush (2 of em) & Abramoff have connections too
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 04:14 PM by SoCalDem
and when Poppy was pres he sent George W to meet with Menem in SA for water projects.. guess who dealt with Menem too??

ABRAMOFF ..tHIS IS pre GOVERNOR DAYS IN tEXAS.. AND gw SAYS HE DOESN;T "KNOW" aBRAMAOFF??

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