What is Cheney trying to hide from the American people?

[Beausoir]

I'm beginning to think he really was drunk. He is definitely hiding something.
Could this be the one that brings him down?

[gratuitous]

1. The shorter list is what is he NOT trying to hide?

A far, far, shorter list.

[MichaelHarris]

2. That he is a bad shot?

I was always taught to eat what you hunt, maybe Dick should have some Old Lawyer Face Under Glass. Probably not the first time he's tasted human flesh.

[Punkingal]

3. Tweety said yesterday.....

In his experience, politicians hold back information when things are worse than they appear. He actually said that! Personally, I think he was drunk, and I think the guy was much closer than they admitted, and who was the third hunter? Have they ever said?

[Gormy Cuss]

24. The third hunter was Pamela Willeford, the US ambassador to Switzerland

Suppressing her name from the story has fueled rampant speculation that she's Cheney's woman on the side.
I have no idea if there's any truth to that rumor, but there was some important reason to suppress the details of the story. One reason might be that he had assured his wife that this was a guy's weekend.

[kurth]

4. Typical secretive scumbag CEO

fit for a drug cartel.

[Options Remain]

5. he wanted a menage a trois

so he shot the other guy. :p

[DBoon]

6. His "Monica Lewinsky" was with him

He had to cover up his "back door woman"

[bluemarkers]

9. Pam is quite the looker

http://www.wb-infokiosk.org/bp.php?url=http://bern.usembassy.gov/ambassador.html




I guess Lynne does not hunt? ;)

[newyawker99]

35. Hi bluemarkers!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[gasperc]

7. he's a drunk, careless, shoot first

bonehead, that doesn't think or care about the consequences of his actions and them blames the victim for getting shot.

I like the Daily show's take, he had to shoot the quail no matter what or the quail would have thought America weak

[Blue_Roses]

8. Cause that's what Cheney DOES!

When has he not ducked from truth?

[FloridaPat]

10. One rumor is he's a coward and thought someone was coming

at him to kill him so he shot first. Apparently he was out there with a bunch of secret service guys and doctors. Didn't have the correct hunting licenses and had just gotten out of the car to hunt game. What an American hero.

[CJCRANE]

11. Could be, he's got no kneejerk defense on this one...

no appeal to patriotism or "values" and no way he can invoke 9/11 to get a free-pass.

He's on his own.

[Skelington]

12. So this is a Progressive site huh?

Hell,.. why stop at assuming he was just drunk? Why not say he probably had just finished having sex with a child sex slave, imported by Delay, slammed a few beers, shot a few puppies and had to have a quick herion shot before he finished a line to make up a story to tell the press, after he sodimized Mr. Whittingtons wife?

My son told me this was a place to find out what the pulse of the Democrats was. This type of speculation is like a flash fire on Democratic Underground, I don't care who it happened to, an accidential shooting is not funny, it's not to be taken lightly and the most immature thing that could be done would be to add self serving facts to bend a tragic event to suit a political view.

The immoral, and illegal acts perpetrated by Cheney in the political arena are not relavant, to his accidental shooting of a hunting partner.
Speculating, to the point of re-creating the incident is not what I am about. Clear, honest, factual truths are all that needs to be said.

What makes you think he was drunk? Are there any facts available?

[Misunderestimator]

13. Yes, this is a progressive site. One that questions things the RW won't.

[Skelington]

16. That is all I am doing, asking a question,

What is the advantage to Democrats to speculate that he was drinking?

I have not heard this as a fact, I can make up my own version of anything, except I don't call it progressive.... I call it wishfull thinking.

I'm tired of everything being "mostly true", things are either truth or false. Is this truth, or is it made up? I'm only asking because I have not heard this as a news story, where did it come from?

[Misunderestimator]

17. And that's all speculation is... asking questions.

Sometimes all we have is speculation, especially with an administration with such a history of concealing the truth, and outright LYING to the public. It's human nature to speculate. You don't like it? Don't read it.

[Skelington]

21. You answered my question, thanks.

[WinkyDink]

14. Works for me!

[Mandate My Ass]

15. in the lower left-hand corner

right next to the "alert" link, there is a "hide thread" link that might serve you well when posting here. ;-)


Edited to correct location of "hide thread" link.

[Skelington]

18. Instead of "hide thread", I am only asking if this is true?

If it is where did it come from? If not what is the point?

[Misunderestimator]

22. You don't wonder why they are concealing information?

Why on earth would you lecture people here about doing what is natural? It's completely natural to speculate about why they are hiding the truth... the truth MUST be something worth hiding, or they wouldn't hide it.

[Skelington]

27. Of course I wonder why they are not disclosing all the facts,

But making up my own version of the story won't make it true.
I have now been acused of being a "freeper" below, so I think I got my answer, not the one I hoped for. I had actually hoped that SOMEBODY here had a factual bite pertaining to cheney being drunk. It was a lot easier to question my question, then offer an answer.

[Misunderestimator]

31. Nobody is claiming his being drunk as fact.... only speculating.

And as the spokesperson from the hospital just said "no comment" and ran off, when questioned if any blood alcohol tests had been done... it certainly does seem more and more suspicious.

Who said it was fact?

[Beausoir]

23. You should be asking Cheney if it's true.

You should be questioning this from all angles.

Instead, you seem to want the cover-up to continue.

That's just...odd.

[Mandate My Ass]

25. Maybe there is no point other than repubs always ascribe

the worst motivations and questionable morality to dems all the time. When they open themselves up to the same speculation by attempting to cover up their irresponsible and/or illegal actions instead of taking full and immediate responsibility, it's normal to wonder what they're hiding. THey're always hiding something, particularly Cheney.

Nobody should have to have a point in a thread entitled "What is Cheney hiding from the American people?" The point is to see what others think.

[Beausoir]

19. That's the POINT...we have NO facts about it.

The VP SHOT A MAN IN THE FACE and is trying to cover it up.

If you have a problem with DU asking questions about it, try FreeRepublic. I'm almost certain you know the way.

[Skelington]

26. The VP shooting the man in the face is a fact,

him being drunk is a hope. "Think like us or you are wrong, go away" thats great, I'm so proud of the work you do.

Be it on dick cheney or bill clinton, bullshit is bullshit.
I leave you to your research.

[Beausoir]

29. Awfully thin skinned about Ol' Dick, aren't ya.

How...odd.

You're not fooling anyone here.

[Misunderestimator]

32. It is not a "hope"... it is simply a speculation.

Wy do you have such a problem with people speculating?

[Shipwack]

28. "Are there any facts available?"

Well, the VP has only himself to blame for this line of speculation... as much as I despise that man, I didn't give the news second thought, at first. Accidents happen, it was a shame that a man was injured, but that's life.

Then we found out that the news was kept was kept under wraps from -everyone- (including the President!)for almost 24 hours. Why the secrecy? What were they hiding?

We also found out that the police weren't allowed to question him on the matter until 24 hours after it happened. Why the refusal to cooperate with law enforcement? Whatever happened to the Republican mantra "If you don't have anything to hide, why not let the police question/search/test you"?

Cheney, true to form, refuses to be held accountable for his actions, and has blamed the victim. Why can he not admit to any fault at all, when it was his finger on the trigger?

One of the theories that explains all the above is that he was drinking, and was impaired when he did his "hunting" trip (in quotes because calling "driving in your car to a field where they release captive birds right in front of you" hunting is an insult to all my hunting friends). This is credible since he has two drunk driving convictions.

Again, if he had been willing to be a good citizen and acted appropriately, this would be a non-issue.

[Beausoir]

33. Next you'll be telling us that asking questions is bad for 'Murka.

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[tabasco]

37. Boohoohooh!!!! Boohoohoohoohoohoo!!!!!

Waaaahhhhh!!!!! :cry: Waaaahhhhhh!!!!!

SOMEBODY SPECULATED THAT CHENEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN DRUNK!! WAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!

[indie_voter]

38. Cheney has admitted to a beer at lunch (fox news)

The owner of the ranch confirmed beer was available (first reported in an MSNBC article then scrubbed but fortunately a newbie DUer caught a screen shot of the original article. http://www.crooksandliars.com/stories/2006/02/14/msnbcscrubsBeerLineFromCheneyStory.html)

Unfortunately Cheney refused to make himself available to the authorities right after the accident, they had to wait until the next day to interview him, so there was no Breathalyzer test.

However, the victim's blood alcohol level must be known by the doctors. They have refused comment when asked about it.

So, we don't know how much alcohol was really consumed, but we do know at least one beer was consumed by the VP at lunch (5 hours prior to the accident according to the VP).

If the authorities follow up, perhaps they can learn if the victim had any alcohol in his blood, which then might answer if at least some people were drinking during the hunt. Cheney says (Fox News interview) nobody was.

[MrBenchley]

20. He was on an overnight trip with a woman not his wife

at the ranch of a lobbyist, and he was ripped to the tits....

[sakabatou]

30. He's a lizard man

[Swamp Rat]

36. HAHAHA!!!! It won't work!!!

:D

[Dinger]

39. He Was With His FUCKING Mistress Fer Chrissakes!

Hey, I thought Dems were the only ones who screwed around???