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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:14 PM
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E&P: Troubling Questions About Cheney's Boss (do they mean Bush???)
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 12:25 PM by Pirate Smile

Troubling Questions About Cheney's Boss

Why is the vice president getting nearly all the blame for keeping his shooting escapade secret last weekend? President Bush either kept it hidden just as long--or, equally disturbing, maybe he did not find out about Cheney's role as shooter until much later.


By Greg Mitchell

February 14, 2006) -- While Vice President Cheney continues to catch flak for grossly mishandling the aftermath of the shooting in Texas last Saturday, it is amazing that, relatively speaking, his boss, President Bush, is not drawing just as much blame. True, Cheney deserves extra scrutiny for breaking several cardinal rules of hunting when he plugged Mr. Whittington, and for whatever else he may be hiding.

But as for the slow reporting of the incident—with a nod to Watergate we will call it "the 18 ½ hour gap"—why is the media dumping it mainly on Vice when perhaps it should be versa? Isn’t the president in charge here?
Good question. And what if the president, contrary to the official story, was not told about Cheney as shootist on Saturday night?

-snip-
Note in all this: no mention of the president. What we seem to know for certain is that his press secretary was not told about Cheney’s role until 6 a.m. on Sunday.
In other words, if we accept the White House version of events, Bush was informed about 8 p.m. Saturday—and did not inform his press secretary until the next morning, did not talk to his vice president, in fact, did not seem to have any input on telling or holding the story.

So why isn’t Bush getting hammered for that? Why is so much of the focus on Cheney? The president of the United States, in this version, heard about his veep shooting a man in the face and chest and did not direct him or anyone else to report this to the nation? In fact, based on her original quotes, we might assume that we would have never heard about it at all if Katharine Armstrong had not tipped off the local reporter.
So, at a minimum, accepting Bush’s story at face value, he should be sharing blame on the 18 ½ hour gap, or even taking the lion's share, since he is, supposedly, the man in charge.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001998206



edit to add - look at this from todays NYT:


Several White House officials said no one among the White House staff, including the chief of staff, Andrew H. Card Jr., felt empowered to dictate how news of the accident would be handled.

Presumably Mr. Bush could have declared how the news would be disseminated, something he does often on policy matters. Until this week, the periodic disconnect between Mr. Cheney's office and the rest of the White House has been the source of grumbling, but rarely open tension. The most notable exception came in August 2002, when Mr. Cheney, delivering a speech about Iraq, spoke so disparagingly about the utility of past United Nations weapons inspections that he left the impression that the administration would never again use inspections in an effort to assess the threat of Saddam Hussein.

In fact, Mr. Bush had decided to try to send inspectors back in, at least for a while, and it was left to Condoleezza Rice, then the national security adviser, to call Mr. Cheney and get him to strike that wording from a speech he was giving a few days later.

In the past five years, Mr. Cheney has grown accustomed to having a power center of his own, with his own miniature version of a national security council staff. It conducts policy debates that often happen parallel those among Mr. Bush's staff.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/15/politics/15veep.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin



"Presumably" the Prez could tell the VP what to do - presumably.
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:19 PM
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1. blame the dominatrix Cheney
Not the slave Bush :)
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:40 PM
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19. Welcome to DU, Mrspeeker!
:hi:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:20 PM
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2. I've seen reports that Bush wasn't told until Sunday morning
at least that's what Scotty is saying.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:35 PM
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17. Has Anyone Even Heard or Seen from *?
No longer watching the tube-news but just curious. No mention of * shows up in any papers, or google searches relating to this story.

Where is the *? Not that I can stomach watching *, but has anyone seen him on the tube saying anything about this, I mean anything? He is the (cough) prez, right?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:02 PM
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21. He gave a speech on his little Health Care Accounts today. Got a lot of
attention, didn't it?
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:30 PM
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23. Just Heard Mention from Malloy Moments Ago.
Thanks for the heads-up. And, you can say that again. Yeah. Health care (cough) privatization. Speaking of privatization, which * just loves to use for every stinkin' shocking crap he crams down our throats, he never got around to using that term with regards to our damn PRIVACY!

Privatize our Social Security
Health Care, now.
Oil - 71 billion was it...?
Selling of our lands!
Scandals spanning the globe, skywards daily.

But did he say 1 word of his VP shooting someone? Bet not a word.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:21 PM
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3. * was re-reading "My Pet Goat", didn't have time for anything else. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:21 PM
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4. Cheney's Boss? Don't they mean Satan?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:29 PM
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5. This gives the appearance that Cheney is truly in charge.
I know that *we* know that, but this makes Cheney look rogue and answerable to no one, even the President.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:45 PM
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10. it certainly does
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:27 PM
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14. Yep. Looks like Cheney's become a rogue elephant...
Time to make the popcorn... :popcorn:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:39 PM
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6. kick
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:41 PM
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7. Maybe he answers to the Swiss Miss now.
Thank you ma'am, may I have another?!?!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:42 PM
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8. Damn Good Question, Indeed.
n/t
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:44 PM
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9. fat man and little boy live in separate bubbles
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:45 PM
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11. the chimp was drunker than cheney all weekend, that's why
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:50 PM
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12. I would not be surprised at all if * and everyone else in the WH
didn't know anything for a long time. Cheney lives in his own world, even more so than * does. He doesn't answer to anyone, doesn't listen to anyone, and holds himself even more above the law than * does.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:17 PM
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13. If the woman hadn't decided to call her local press, I wonder if we
would have ever know.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:38 PM
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18. Kinda Reminds One of Katrina.
The lights were on, but no one is home. Should have invested in popcorn, darn-it!
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:29 PM
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15. See how few people even THINK of Bush as Cheney's boss?
The headline and first paragraph nearly makes one's head explode.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:34 PM
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16. Cheney did not want bush's advice because he knows bush is clueless.
Not that Cheney has anything to brag about in the common sense department.
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:41 PM
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20. Well as far as Bush is concerned-Everyone knows that he
doesn't work weekends, silly. (or the month of August)

:silly:
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:07 PM
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22. Puppet-boy knows who pulls his strings
The Dick has been the puppeteer from day one and * knows who is really handling everything.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:59 PM
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24. They called Rove.
Shrub is useless.
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