ONCE AND FOR ALL: a 28 gauge SHOTGUN:

[janx]

It is not a pellet gun. It is not a child's gun. It is not a "wimpy" shotgun.

[BOSSHOG]

1. Thanks for the info

You know if VP Gore had shot someone with that gun, limbaugh would make it out to be the most powerful fucking weapon in the whole universe.

[Coexist]

7. and he would've made it out to be too much gun for the sport

- real hunters hunt quail with bows! or something like that.

Only liberal elitists would participate in a "canned" hunt because they are too "wimpy" to hunt feral quail!!!

hee hee.

[leftchick]

2. looks like a kill shot

yikes!

[janx]

3. Results (on paper--don't know about range)

[havocmom]

4. Shotgun is what is generally advised for those looking for home protection

They kill real good

[TahitiNut]

5. That's about 'stopping power' within the range of a room of a home ...

... and without posing a danger to neighbors. The danger to neighbors, however, comes up again if using #1, double-ought, or triple-ought buckshot, particularly in apartments. My personal preference would be a short-barrel (even sawed off), pistol-gripped 20-gauge pump firing #4 or #5 buckshot with a full powder load. I'd want a good spread in a short distance and the least chance of "collateral damage."

[janx]

8. That's generally not what the 28 is for though.

People who keep a shotgun around for home protection often get a 12 gauge.

The 28 is more elegant, has slightly less kick (but will bruise you if you're wearing a t-shirt), and less spread than a 12.

It's harder to aim, too, but since the spread is smaller it can be more accurate. The spread can be altered with something called a "choke," but the spread of the 28 is inherently smaller none the less.

The reason I posted this pic yet again is because I keep seeing people post questions (no doubt based on the inaccuracy of the media).

[havocmom]

13. for the ladies who live alone, a little less kick often good choice

point & shoot, drop intruder, call cops, ANSWER questions ;)

[wicket]

9. yup- no aim required- just point & shoot

n/t

[Squatch]

6. Perazzi, no less.

~$7000 per shotgun. Extra for engraving.

[janx]

10. The pic I posted isn't Perazzi, but the NYT graphic is, yes. n/t

[janx]

11. Remington 28g shotgun (1100):

[sendero]

12. You are correct.

The "gauge" of a shotgun refers to the the size of the bore (hole in the barrel). For the most common shotgun, the 12 gauge, the bore is the same diameter as the size of a lead ball, where 12 of said lead balls would weigh a pound. A 28 gauge bore is smaller, the diameter of a lead ball in which 28 of said balls would weigh a pound.

On the face, since the bore of a 28 gauge is somewhat smaller, it would seem to be a much less powerful gun. It is less powerful, but not much.

A typical 12 gauge shotgun shell with birdshot (I'll not go into buckshot, sabot slugs and other things that can be shot with a shotgun for the sake of an apples to apples comparison) will have an ounce to 1.25 ounces of shot (the little pellets it shoots). A typical 28 gauge birdshot round will contain about .75 ounces of shot. The muzzle velocities of both are very similar. You can buy special shells, but the common shells used by hunters in 12 and 28 gauge have a muzzle velocity of 1300 feet per second - within a few percent.

Had Cheney hit this guy with a 12 gauge, the damage (assuming similar chokes) would be worse, but not hugely worse. A 28 gauge shotgun is not a toy, it will kill you dead if you get hit with it, and the difference between an ounce of shot and 3/4 an ounce is not likely to save you.

[janx]

14. kick