Gonzo-ales Withholding Plame Emails That Implicate Cheney

[Me.]

Gonzales Withholding Plame Emails
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report

Wednesday 15 February 2006

“Sources close to the investigation into the leak of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson have revealed this week that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has not turned over emails to the special prosecutor's office that may incriminate Vice President Dick Cheney, his aides, and other White House officials who allegedly played an active role in unmasking Plame Wilson's identity to reporters.

Moreover, these sources said that, in early 2004, Cheney was interviewed by federal prosecutors investigating the Plame Wilson leak and testified that neither he nor any of his senior aides were involved in unmasking her undercover CIA status to reporters and that no one in the vice president's office had attempted to discredit her husband, a vocal critic of the administration's pre-war Iraq intelligence. Cheney did not testify under oath or under penalty of perjury when he was interviewed by federal prosecutors.

The emails Gonzales is said to be withholding contained references to Valerie Plame Wilson's identity and CIA status and developments related to the inability to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Moreover, according to sources, the emails contained suggestions by the officials on how the White House should respond to what it believed were increasingly destructive comments Wilson had been making about the administration's pre-war Iraq intelligence.

Gonzales, who at the time of the leak was the White House counsel, spent two weeks with other White House attorneys screening emails turned over to his office by roughly 2,000 staffers following a deadline imposed by the White House in 2003. The sources said Gonzales told Fitzgerald more than a year ago that he did not intend to turn over the emails to his office, because they contained classified intelligence information about Iraq in addition to minor references to Plame, the sources said.” Cont…

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021506J.shtml

[FreedomAngel82]

1. Oh wow

So is this why now the "Saddam tapes"? And can Fitzgerald do anything about this?

[MissWaverly]

64. I don't care if there are tapes from Moses

it's about time, these individuals are held accountable, if Gonzales obstructed
a criminal investigation, he is the chief prosecuter in the US, he should resign.

[fooj]

68. You bet. Hand 'em over. NOW!

Peace.

[MissWaverly]

91. you know this is beginning to remind me of TV

the problem is that these are not real officials, just actors playing a part, so Chertoff
can sit there with a straight face and say he has no intention of resigning, they're really
big on I-spy computer games and getting electronic surveillance for illegal immigrants,
Michael Brown is right, FEMA should be seperate, it's all security with them, and
also Gonzales, he's the attorney general participating in a cover up. (another actor-
playing the role of US official).

[wordpix2]

93. I know, I am really freaking out, this is surreal. I wasn't politically

savvy enough during frosh year in college to appreciate a lot of the details of Watergate, although I got the gist. This is bigger and keeps leading back to 9-11, our intelligence ops and the incompetence/coverups of the present * admin.

[MissWaverly]

104. reminds me of the guy who says

I am not a doctor, I just play one on Tv. It's amazing how there just is not a sense
of accountability to the American people. They are government officials not ceos at
Enron.

[wicket]

2. K & R

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[hang a left]

3. Me thinks Cheney is serving out his last days in the administration.

[Me.]

5. One Can Only Hope

But the shooting is taking such focus that it is outshadowing everything else.

[Higans]

87. Thats why Cheney Shot him.

Get drunk enough so it won't hurt, and I'll just pepper you with this 28 gage, and we can focus the press on this for long enough that the plame case will go away.

It's a classic case of "Hey! what's that behind you?"

[Nostradammit]

25. He's certainly going out with a bang

so to speak.

[FreedomAngel82]

31. LOL

As Stephanie Miller would say: it's the gift that keeps on giving!

[ClintonTyree]

76. It shouldn't stop with Cheney........

the entire bush administration, from the top down to the lowliest bush peon appointed in our government, should be removed from office. As they said during the Nixon years, "there's a cancer growing on the presidency". In this case the cancer has spread throughout the entire government, Congress included. At this point it's almost looking terminal, if something isn't done soon, DAMNED soon, it will be terminal. This country is on the verge of political collapse, it can't take much more "compassionate conservatism". :puke:
I swear to every deity on the planet, after the political and social carnage the Republicans have caused, not one of these sons of bitches should be elected again for the next 25 years. This SHOULD spell the death of the Republican party, but will it? No, because the American people are gullible and will fall for their line of crap again and again. All they have to do is shout, "gays", "abortion", "terror" and "taxes" and the stoopid asswipes will fall all over themselves to vote for them again. If you couldn't tell, I have a very low opinion of the American electorate right now. How many times do we have to tell them, how many times do they have to be bludgeoned by GOP lies and corruption to learn?

[wordpix2]

94. yes and he is looking fatter and more unhealthy than ever. Is he trying

to kill himself?

He can live his life in jail, I think it's a better option for him.

[av8rdave]

4. Remember how the right used to complain about Janet Reno?

Ironic, isn't it?

[Roland99]

6. So, why not declassify the emails (that probably don't need to be anyway)

This admin would classify a tuna salad recipe.

[FormerRepublican]

7. Obstruction of justice, Gonzo will be disbarred.

:popcorn: :party:

Now, if they would JUST FREAKING GET IT DONE!

I'm sick of Darth Cheney destroying America on the tax payer dime.

[Punkingal]

14. I'm sure he has some convoluted rationale....

for why it isn't obstruction, crook that he is. I can't believe they confirmed that piece of shit to be Attorney General.

[ClintonTyree]

77. They were "keeping their powder dry", remember?

Well, the powder is so damned dry it's turned into dust. Just ONCE I'd like the Democrats to act like an opposition party! :mad:

[Me.]

18. I Bet No One Knows About This

Just sent emails to KO, HB, and Dobbs in the hope someone will pick the story up. Will do more later.

[debbierlus]

8. Kick & Recommend!

Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to DECEIVE

[NanceGreggs]

9. Cheney did not testify under oath ...

We need a new amendment, seriously - whereby ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, from the President right on down, are deemed to be UNDER OATH at all times when speaking in an official capacity. That means ALL hearings, interviews, statements to the press ... ALL OF IT.

[Garbo 2004]

19. Lying to fed law enforcement is still a crime, regardless if under oath or

not. At least, that's my understanding.

[H2O Man]

24. Right.

When he spoke with Fitzgerald, he was not under oath. But the article implies that VP Cheney spoke to others investigating this, early in 2004. That would possibly have been the FBI investigators who spoke with several White House officials. As Martha S. found out, and Scooter L. has since, one need not be sworn in, as in a courtroom setting, to be charged with lying to federal investigators. It only changes the name of the charge from perjury to obstruction of justice.

[NanceGreggs]

38. You're right.

But I'm not talking about just the current instances. I'm talking about ALL elected office-holders (congressmen, senators, everyone) should be deemed to be under oath whenever speaking to ANYONE in an official capacity.

Don't want to be subject to criminal charges if you LIE in the course of your official duties? Fine - don't run for office.

[FreedomAngel82]

32. I thought while they were in office they were always under oath??

:shrug:

[BuyingThyme]

46. Yes, but the oath doesn't require them to tell the truth.

[Higans]

88. He doesn't need to be under oath, remember Martha Stewart?

all you have to do is lie to a Federal agent and they can throw you in jail. oath or no oath.

[myrna minx]

10. Can't Gonzales be disbarred for this? n/t

[H2O Man]

28. It depends.

If a court rules he has to turn over the information, and he does, it becomes something like in the Nixon days (go figure!), and that doesn't become a legal offense.

If he has taken part in the destruction of evidence, also as in the Nixon era, then he can be in very real trouble.

[myrna minx]

40. Thanks. This is getting very interesting. n/t

[AuntiBush]

108. H2O Man

I know no one likes us stating as such, but I've about given-up any hope of any form of justice from this disgusting, reckless, lawless bunch.

[H2O Man]

112. It has taken longer

than the public thinks it should. There is a reason .... very simply, this crew has learned from their past mistakes in the fays of Watergate and Iran-Contra ..... and they had almost six months to cover things up between the time of the crimes, and Fitzgerald being brought into the picture.

In terms of past White House scandals, it is taking a long time. However, in terms of investigating organized crime, this is not long and drawn out, it is moving along fine. Thus, there is frustration, because the public views it in terms of politics, while Fitzgerald is up against organized crime. Very well organized crime.

[AuntiBush]

117. Thanks again, H2O Man

For your thorough, and much thought-out response. Appreicate it.

[Just Me]

11. So, our own USAG is guilty of obstruction of justice.

Imagine that. :eyes:

Oh, yeah, he's guilty of approving of torture, too, which is also illegal. :eyes:

[FreedomAngel82]

33. Well don't forget

at the NSA "hearings" he said he represented the President. Doesn't he represent the people?

[July]

37. Is he the guy who thinks the Geneva Conventions are "quaint," as well?

Or am I thinking of someone else?

[Canuckistanian]

43. That's him.

The famous "Gonzales Memo". I sure hope he's going to enjoy all the money that's coming to him.

Because he's going to be villified for life.

[0rganism]

55. I'm sure he will prosecute himself to the full extent of the law

The foxes have officially transitioned the henhouse into their private golf resort.

[leveymg]

62. It's not obstruction if he claims national security - that issue will

have to be litigated. Now, if Gonzales had anything to do with erasing or losing those other e-mails, he will be charged with OOJ.

[Just Me]

80. I'm pretty sure the WH was ORDERED to turn over all communications,...

,...relating to Plame and Wilson. National security doesn't apply to a court's order.

[Burried News]

12. Obstruction of justice by the not so speedy Gonzales

shocking.

[Jacobin]

13. Perfect Storm for Cheney, that prick

Too bad he had to blast that old guy to get his name out there amongst the unthinking that he's an asshole.

Chinks in yer armor Cheney Boy......You are going down........

[Double T]

15. It appears that the bush administration may finally be on its way.......

OUT!!!!!

[ClintonTyree]

78. They might have been........

if we had a Supreme Court that wasn't stacked with Reich-Wing ideologues. I'm sure glad the Democrats kept their powder dry. :eyes:

[Patsy Stone]

16. So is it still lying if it's not under oath?

Is there any recourse?

I was pretty sure Gonzo used those few hours between his receiving the "turn over your stuff" call and sending out the mass "turn over your stuff" e-mail to the WH staff wisely. It looked like 18 minutes of missing tape...

[H2O Man]

29. Sure.

Just think in terms of Libby (or Martha)

(1) Under oath = perjury.

(2) to an investigator, not under oath = obstruction

[Patsy Stone]

39. I was hoping you'd say that!

:hi: and thanks.

[yodermon]

17. Even though Cheney was not under oath..

..can he still be indicted for making False Statements to investigators (a la Libby)?

[Garbo 2004]

27. Ordinarily, lying to fed investigators is a crime even if not under oath,

as I understand.

Spiro Agnew, Nixon's VP, as I recall tried to argue that he had to be impeached first before he could be indicted, but the Solicitor General at the time disagreed and said the VP was not immune from indictment while in office. Of course, that was then.

[Justice Is Comin]

79. Definitely

It falls under the False Statements Act. I wrote a whole thread about it. It is the twin prosecutorial weapon to perjury.

Perjury has to be under oath but much harder to prove. False statements to a government official need not be under oath, doesn't have a requirement to prove intent to deceive or even that the subject used "conscious avoidance." That's why Specter didn't put Gonzalez under oath at this stage.

It carries up to five years and $10,000 fine. It's used far more than perjury for prosecutions.

Also when Fitzgerald interviewed Cheney and Bush, he had his FBI team with him who will serve as witnesses. No way out.

[emulatorloo]

20. kick n/t

[H2O Man]

21. Good find!

Nominated. Looks like Dick has a lot of explaining to do. None of this is really a surprise for those who read DU.

[Emit]

41. Good afternoon, H2O Man

On a related note, if you haven't seen this thread, you might want to check it out. I recall at one point, your presence was requested over there:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2105487&mesg_id=2105487

[H2O Man]

45. Thank you, Emit

It looks like an interesting thread.

[stop the bleeding]

50. hey you two - this is a damning statement - also a few questions

Aside from the emails that have not been turned over, there are also emails that Patrick Fitzgerald, the Special Prosecutor investigating the case, believes were either "shredded" or deleted, the attorneys said.

In a court document dated January 23, Fitzgerald says that, during the course of his investigation, he had been told that some emails from the offices of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney had not been saved. His letter does not claim that any member of the Bush administration discarded the emails, but sources close to the probe say that is what Fitzgerald has been alleging privately.

Furthermore it looks like Cheney is cooked based on the fact his testimony contradicts Libby's - what is you all's take on this.

How long until a Cheney indictment?

Can we get the Gonzo emails????

[H2O Man]

51. My answer is this:

Do you remember when Matt Cooper and Judith Miller were appealing right up to the US Supreme Court, attempting to avoid testifying? And ALL the federal judges who reviewed the case noted Fitzgerald had something really huge? Well, it wasn't that Scooter lied. It was that Cheney ran the WHIC offensive from March 2003 on. When Dean wrote "Worse Than Watergate," he knew. He knew.

[stop the bleeding]

53. So that is a yes on Fitz being able to get the Gonzo emails or is that

a yes that indictments are on their way for Darth?

Or yes to both

thank you for getting back so quickly

[H2O Man]

56. I'm curious

what the sources for Raw Story have said. I am under the impression that at least one other person from State has some of the "rare" material.

Thus far, the federal courts have been very respectful of everything Fitzgerald has done. And that includes the conservative judges, too. This should help assure DUers that the cases will not be derailed by conservative judges. Much of this is too obviously in violation of the law for any judge to turn a blind eye.

I think that the current Grand Jury is going to take action soon.

[stop the bleeding]

60. I think so as well, and I think Leopold's sources feel this as well

they are able to see where Fitz is headed and hence is why they are talking to Leopold, also they wouldn't be talking to Leopold just for the hell of it. In other words they(the sources) are only talking about situations and events that they are fairly certain on.

upon thinking about the sources and what they have to gain and lose by talking to Leopold leaves me with this thought,


"This does not bode well for Darth at all":popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[dalloway]

63. it's a great time to throw cheney an ANVIL

[Me.]

72. Armitage?

or the squeak Hannah?

[H2O Man]

75. Would not

surprise me.

[Me.]

49. Must Come Clean

My friend RB sent it to me and I jumped all over it.

BTW: Why don't they just redact the supposedly classified info?

[H2O Man]

54. Well,

I'd guess it's because it isn't the classified information that they are worried about.

[stop the bleeding]

57. right,

they are worried what was said in those emails ie: plotting to discredit Wilson-

Man they are so stupid to leave all of that around on email, major assleaking from this one. It doesn't matter how hard they clinch their butts together this is going to leak out of thier asses.


my microwave is beeping :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[leveymg]

65. This is also significant re: Cheney's obstruction of justice

From the article:

"Cheney testified for a little more than an hour about his role in the leak in early 2004. What he told prosecutors appears to be identical to testimony his former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, gave before a grand jury during the same year. Libby was indicted on five-counts of obstruction of justice (OOJ), perjury, and lying to investigators related to his role in the Plame Wilson leak."

In other words, they both lied to Fitz about the plot to out Plame, but Cheney hasn't been called on it yet. And, then here's another lie by Cheney. Recently, Libby testified to the Grand Jury that he originally learned about Plame's identity from Cheney. But, Cheney had earlier testified:

"Cheney told investigators that he first learned about Valerie Plame Wilson and her employment with the CIA from Libby."

I see many counts of OOJ that Fitz will nail Cheney with. That's atop the conspiracy charges resulting from his "authorizing" Libby to share classified documents with Judy Miller and other reporters.

So, what are you waiting for? Indict Dick Now!

Mark

[stop the bleeding]

66. that is precisely what I read when I saw those statements that you

highlighted. Darth is soooooo gone, it is only a matter of time before Fitz drops the hammer on Darth and friends.

[leveymg]

69. Can you hear, "For the good of the Grand Old Party"?

I'm here in DC, and it's deafening. That's what's beneith this silly shooting incident feeding frenzy.

The media will eat Cheney and the others alive if he litigates this.

[ClintonTyree]

83. What's everyone so worried about?

Our president said that if he found out anyone in his administration leaked Plame's name they'd no longer be in his administration, right? :shrug: Hey, if we can't trust our president who CAN we trust. I have every faith that bush will do the right thing.

:rofl: Oh....sometimes I crack myself up.......bush will do the right thing :rofl: man, that's a good one! :rofl:

[leveymg]

85. Who cares about doing the RIGHT thing? Not them, surely.

But, the RNC don't want to see another "Last Days" style court drama during an election year. They need that about as much as they need a hole in their head.:evilgrin:

[Me.]

90. Keyrect

And that leads me to the next question, will FitzG. call them on this and ask them to give him a redacted version?

[H2O Man]

113. I believe he has.

It is up to the presiding judge to decide that; either way he decides, it gets appealed. This is one of the things that is being done outside the public's view.

Under normal circumstances, attempts at triangultion would be damaging to the prosecution. In this case, it may slow the case in some ways, but Fitzgerald will use the tactic against the two other sides.

[Jane Austin]

22. Classified Intelligence Information? Um, the judges in this case have

already seen a bunch of classified intelligence information. That's what was redacted in the appellate ruling by Judge Titel.

Why would Gonzales' reasoning stand up?

[FormerRepublican]

36. In addition, no reason at all why redacted versions can't be provided.

Except that they want to obstruct justice. Oops.

[WI_DEM]

23. Gonzalez is a political hack--he shouldn't be attorney general

Dems should demand his resignation.

[Fovea]

26. Gonzales's wife, Martha Mitchell

was unavailable for comment.

[Garbo 2004]

30. Looks like someone is throwing Cheney under the bus. And Gonzo too. n/t

[kayice]

35. Isn't Chertoff missing a whole day of crucial video tape?

lost, afraid to turn over, destroyed?

[Independent_Liberal]

34. Fuddgate, Plamegate, Halliburtongate, Energygate, etc. It keeps getting

better and better.

[ClintonTyree]

84. Yeah, but when the hell is it going to stop?

If this was a Democratic administration the impeachment process would be finished already. How much more of this can our country take? These people are not going to be removed without a helluva fight, it's going to get ugly, VERY ugly. I wouldn't be at all surprised if bush declared martial law, canceled elections etc. Who's going to stop them, the Reich-Wing stacked Supreme Court? When and how will this national nightmare end? :scared: This is what keeps me up at night!

[The Backlash Cometh]

42. Obstruction of Justice.

[EVDebs]

116. Bush has 'OJ'ed' the country, you've nailed it.

I've always thought that guys who hang on golf courses, or quail-hunts, while the country is falling apart, or 'looking for Nicole's real killer', were a special variety of skanks. This episode with Cheney is just par for the course.

OJ'ed: Obstruction of Justice.

[BuyingThyme]

44. This is a done deal now. Let's fucking get it done already!!!!!!!!!

Come on Fitz! Let's do this!!!!!!!!!!

[Patrick J Fitzgerald]

47. Whittington Shooting Schmooting...

Brit Hume and our friends at FOX News might want to ask Dick some hard questions about how he shot himself in the foot with this Special Prosecutor:

"Cheney told investigators that he first learned about Valerie Plame Wilson and her employment with the CIA from Libby. Cheney testified that Libby told him that several reporters had contacted him in July to say that Plame Wilson had been responsible for arranging her husband's trip to Niger to investigate the Niger uranium claims"

[Virginian]

111. Well, that sounds like conspiracy to obstruct justice.

We know Libby didn't learn about Plame from "reporters," so for Cheney to also sing that tune, they had to have collaborated. Isn't that conspiracy?

[against all enemies]

48. Isn't Gonzales Fitzgerald's boss? Shouldn't Gonzales resign

due to conflict of interest? Him and Cheney could go together.

[savemefromdumbya]

58. They may already have been indicted?

& still sealed?

[Garbo 2004]

105. Gonzales had to recuse himself from the case when he became AG due to

conflict of interest since he was WH counsel during the Plame outing and aftermath.

When Ashcroft recused himself from the Plame case and Fitz was appointed, Comey gave Fitz the powers of the Attorney General in regards to the Plame case. That didn't change when Gonzo became AG. So it's an interesting situation. Gonzales is Fitz's boss but technically not when it comes to the Plame investigation/prosecution.

[Blutodog]

52. Laws?

Gonzo's response will be "LAW? We don't need no stinkin law!"

[savemefromdumbya]

59. Gonzeles can't withold anything to a prosecutor

even if it is classified?

[leveymg]

67. It seems like a losing, last-ditch defense to me.

But, if Cheney et al. insist on it, that issue will have to be litigated.

That litigation could only be disasterous to the GOP from a public relations standpoint - so, I think the leadership (such as it is that isn't otherwise under indictment) is urging Cheney to resign as we speak.

[savemefromdumbya]

106. looks like he is winding down doesn't it

[Catherine Vincent]

61. Since Fitzgerald has been on this case over two years and

uncovered all these inconsistencies, surely he realizes what a corrupt bunch we have in the White House and that the republican party are nothing but trouble.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

70. So, tell me, how does Fitz know about the emails if he doesn't have

them. How does he know what's in the emails?

[incapsulated]

73. From the article:

"The sources said Gonzales told Fitzgerald more than a year ago that he did not intend to turn over the emails to his office, because they contained classified intelligence information about Iraq in addition to minor references to Plame, the sources said."

So he has knowledge that a) these emails have references to Plame and b) they are not being turned over because they have "classified information" and other bullshit excuses. That is a red flag to a prosecutor.

[incapsulated]

71. What can Fitz do?

It's clear that he knows what is going on, and even fears that some of the emails have been deleted or "shredded". As long as he is facing this "classified information" bullshit, what is his next move?

Anyone?

[Me.]

86. He Is A Man Who Bides His Time

Don't forget, we learned yesterday, that he is still pursuing the Islamic charities case. I can guarantee you that when the lower court denied him the phone records he wanted, most people thought he had reached a dead end. J Miller even crowed about it. Those who think they have beat him have seriously misunder-estimated him.

[Beth in VT]

74. What I find ironic is that Fitzgerald has a spokesman.

What does this guy do all day?!

[FormerRepublican]

82. Says "no comment" an AWFUL LOT!!! 10 Billion times a day?

[DoYouEverWonder]

81. Gonzalez is one twit

that makes me rethink my stand on capital punishment.

[Mr_Spock]

89. This guy is in law enforcement now - he MUST BE NEUTRAL!!

What the fuck is wrong with this hack?

If he can't fairly apply the law, then he must resign now!

[cami715]

97. Gonzales made it very clear during the hearings this week

that he works for Bush, not for the American people. He referred to Bush as his "client."

I believe he needs to pull out his job description and read it. He is not Bush's personal defender. He works for the American people and if he cannot do that, he needs to resign.

He is such a sleaze!

[Mr_Spock]

99. I had no idea how seedy this little weasel was until the NSA hearings

This guy is falling in line with the "worst ever" administration logo!!

Bush - worst President EVER

Cheney - worst Vice President EVER

Rumsfeld - worst Defense Secretary EVER

Ashcroft - 2nd worst Attorney General EVER

Gonzales - worst Attorney General EVER

Condi Rice - biggest sycophant suck-up loser EVER

This Congress - least oversight EVER

shall I go on?

[robertpaulsen]

92. Just for fun, let's count the number of Cheney lies in this article.

1. Moreover, these sources said that, in early 2004, Cheney was interviewed by federal prosecutors investigating the Plame Wilson leak and testified that neither he nor any of his senior aides were involved in unmasking her undercover CIA status to reporters

Perhaps that counts as two lies, one for himself and one for his senior aides.


2. and that no one in the vice president's office had attempted to discredit her husband, a vocal critic of the administration's pre-war Iraq intelligence.

3. Cheney said he had received an intelligence briefing on the allegations in late December 2003 or early January 2004 and had asked the CIA for more information about the issue.

Uh, faulty memory with the dates there? Lay off the beer, Dick.


4. Cheney said he was unaware that Wilson was chosen to travel to Niger to look into the uranium claims

5. and that he never saw a report Wilson had given a CIA analyst upon his return, which stated that the Niger claims were untrue.

6. He said the CIA never told him about Wilson's trip.

7. Cheney told investigators that when Wilson began speaking to reporters on background about his secret mission to Niger to investigate Iraq's alleged attempts to purchase uranium, he asked Libby to contact the CIA to "get more information" about the trip and to find out if it was true, the attorneys added.

8. Furthermore, Cheney told prosecutors that before he learned of Wilson's trip, his office simply sought to rebut statements made by Wilson to reporters and the various newspaper reports that said the Bush administration knowingly relied on flawed intelligence to build a case for war.

9. Cheney told investigators that he first learned about Valerie Plame Wilson and her employment with the CIA from Libby.

10. Cheney testified that Libby told him that several reporters had contacted him in July to say that Plame Wilson had been responsible for arranging her husband's trip to Niger to investigate the Niger uranium claims.


Other than point 3, this is 10 times too many to attribute to beer brain. Lying to federal officials and obstruction of justice should be the main charges against him as illustrated in this article. Also, the Espionage Act for good measure.

Anyone spot any lies I missed?

[wordpix2]

98. Dickhead appears a sympathetic, sick figure sometimes but he's a huge liar

It's hard to have sympathy for someone who lies this much. Send him to jail for the Iraq-al Quada connection lies and please throw away the key. I don't want to hear from this liar anymore.

[Me.]

101. Good Recap

And at first glance, it looks to me like you've nailed them all, at least for this corner of the world. But we know he lies about everything thing else too, like he tried to claim he never said there were WMDs. I wonder when it will become too much? When his brain will melt from just one too many lies or egregious act. The corruption has got to be eating him from the inside out.

Has anyone ever asked him about Halliburton/KBR selling components for WMDs to Iran? Can we help that become the story if he even dares to try and start another war?

[stop the bleeding]

115. Thanks RP - I see that Darth can be indicted for multiple charges

some of them being the same as Libby's some of them more serious

[wordpix2]

95. Olbermann is doing in-depth analysis of birdshot at 30 yds. Catch it if

you can.

[WestMichRad]

96. An attorney general who obstructs justice

Why am I not surprised? Fits right in with other great programs of this misAdministration, like the Clean Skies policy (loosening rules on air emissions) and Healthy Forests (bulldoze 'em).

Next they'll be announcing the Friendship Outreach program for Iran (nuke 'em).

Worst.Administration.Ever.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

100. Pretty simple solution:

Give the prosecutor a security clearance. He can then only use the info that is germain to his case.

It's not rocket science. (If you really want justice done)

[Beetwasher]

102. Fitz Probably Has Some Of The Emails Gonzo is Withholding

Cheney's really fucked here, I think.

Fascinating that as this is being released he's also involved in shooting a guy in the face. What an amazing implosion and convergence of events.

[Inland]

103. You know, you are probably right.

Just a few to know a) that the AG is holding back and b) what the rest might say.

I bet a dollar nobody told fitzgerald that there were emails being withheld until he asked for specific emails, ie, "there was a email of such and such a date that wasn't turned over in your package, why?" "Oh, we secretly decided that you shouldn't know about it's existence."

[AuntiBush]

107. I Tell Ya.

This administration is pathetically disgusting! Good Lord. Like "NOTHING" ever in our lifetime!

W-T-F!??!?! Where and when does it end? Opph. Perish that thought.

[Lindacooks]

109. How do these shitheads get away with 'testifying' without being sworn in??

I mean, who are they paying off? I don't understand how prosecutors and Congress, for that matter, can let them get away with this.

[mike_c]

110. it sets them up for obstruction of justice rather than perjury...

...which has an easier standard of proof.

[texpatriot2004]

114. I remember when AGs were for the LAW not the CRIMINALS nm