The source of the Saddam tapes to ABC is Bill Tierney!! AH HA HA HA HA!

[Roland99]

EXCLUSIVE: The Secret Tapes -- Inside Saddam's Palace
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Investigation/story?id=1616996

Feb. 15, 2006 — ABC news has obtained 12 hours of tape recordings of Saddam Hussein meeting with top aides during the 1990's, apparently recorded in the Baghdad version of the Oval Office.

The tapes were provided to ABC News by Bill Tierney, a former member of an UN inspection team who was translating them for the FBI. He says the U.S. Government is wrong to keep these tapes and others secret from the public. "Because of my experience being in the inspections and being in the military, I know the significance of these tapes when I heard them" said Tierney. U.S. officials confirm the tapes are authentic and are among hundreds of hours of tapes Saddam recorded in his palace office.

Watch "World News Tonight" for more on the secret tapes, and watch ABC News Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross' full report on "Nightline" tonight.

Some info on Bill Tierney:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bill_Tierney

"Among them was Bill Tierney, a member of the last U.N. weapons inspection team in Iraq. He was there in 1997 and 1998 and said Saddam probably has a small atomic bomb.

"'The Iraqis still have weapons of mass destruction,' said Tierney, who lives in the Tampa Bay area. 'They have tons of chemical weapons. I'm not sure how much biological weapons are there, but I think he has nukes that can go.'

...

Bill Tierney has been among the demonstrators standing vigil outsite Terri Schiavo's hospice in St. Petersburg, Florida. On March 28, 2005, the New York Times reported Tierney as saying, "No, we're not going to go home ... Terri is not dead until she's dead . . ." Tierney "cried as he talked about watching the Schiavo spectacle on television and feeling the utter need to be at the hospice."

Real winner there.

[Nikki Stone 1]

1. A right wing operative supplies Saddam Hussein tapes...Hmmm...

:popcorn:

[Roland99]

2. Well, the tapes were stolen from an FBI office

they're 15 years-old.


The neocons are utterly desperate to maintain their grip on power.

[bullimiami]

3. IS THIS A CLASSIFIED LEAK. QUICK ARREST HIM.

oh i forgot. neocon leaks are ok.

[Burried News]

6. A little diversion from Peppergate Methinks.

[Roland99]

7. I wonder when ABC "obtained" these tapes?

[maxrandb]

23. It's A Complete and Total Circle Jerk, and ABC is the Pivot-man

Not only is it a right-wing operative supplying stolen tapes. The entire story, and ABC's involvement comes from a report on CNS News, from a story in the NY Sun.

One DUer described it as TASS quoting a story from PRAVDA. I don't think I can do any better than that.

My only questions are: Why has it made it to a legitimate (I know that's a loaded term) news agency like ABC?

and

Why aren't we stomping ABC's guts out for giving this story any time?

[Jacobin]

4. I'll bet his bank account is bulging with Pentagon money

They pay for 'positive' news stories in IraqNam and they buy 'journalists' to write 'columns' and now they are paying this prick to propagandize the WMD crap

[LSparkle]

5. Gee, I wonder if the blogosphere will go after this like Rathergate

Are these tapes legit? Have they been edited? Does Tierney have POLITICAL motives here?

If Rather and Mapes had to lose their jobs over POLITICIZING their coverage, then ABC should be subject to similar scrutiny in their motives for airing this report.

[Nikki Stone 1]

8. It's up to us to do it

nt

[sasha031]

10. get a load of this folks

Tierney's methods of ascertaining this location were rather unconventional. "I would ask God and just get a sense if something was valid or not, and then know if I needed to pursue it," he said. His assessments through prayer were then confirmed to him by a friend's clairvoyant dream, where he was able to find the location on a map. "Everything she said lined up. This place meets the criteria,"Tierney said of a power generator plant near the Tigris River that he believes is actually a cover for a secret uranium facility.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/02/14.html

[Roland99]

12. How did he manage to get a job with UNSCOM???

[sasha031]

15. divine intervention

[centristo]

13. that's funny

i just asked God if Tierney is a douchebag and he said "YES!".

[renate]

22. I ran out of valentines

So here are some other hearts for you as a thank you for that laugh:
:loveya:

[Nikki Stone 1]

17. What, he didn't use tea leaves?

Maybe tarot cards? Good Lord!!

[JuniperLea]

32. What a loon!

If any one of us said we talked to God, we'd be locked up right next to all the Napoleons.

[sasha031]

9. freeper bill tierney

Bill Tierney "says Saddam Hussein is hoping Iraqi forces will be able to inflict heavy casualties on American troops in order to get the anti-war crowd in the U.S. and abroad worked up into a state of frenzy. Tierney says the Iraqi dictator takes heart in watching 'peace protestors' on CNN because he considers them an integral part of his arsenal. Tierney, who has spent a great deal of time in Iraq, expects Saddam Hussein to 'pull out all the stops' as coalition forces converge on Baghdad. The former inspector says if something goes wrong and American casualties are heavy, the Iraqi dictator will count on the peace protestors in the U.S. to come to his aid. As Tierney puts it: 'If they can kill enough of us as we come into Iraq, they figure that the anti-war crowd will scream and holler so loud that we will be forced to stop.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bill_Tierney

[Canuckistanian]

11. Too much information for this old brain

Can someone summarize this for me?

[sasha031]

25. Tierney from what I'm gathering is a nut

he is a former weapons inspector, how such a lune gets a job in government I don't understand, but then again he claims god talks to him, so giving the political climate in this country where you have an administration who is waiting for the second coming, he fits right in.

he has discovered tapes that claim Saddam was going to nuke the US, it's typical right wing bull. They hate to be wrong so the make things up.

well he has been making the wacko circuit on radio so now i guess they figure he's ready for prime time.

welcome to amerka Canuckistanian :)

[Canuckistanian]

37. Thanks. I've just never heard that name before

And if he has the tapes, why not just have them analyzed by experts? And why hasn't Bushco seized them yet?

I suspect this is Able Danger type stuff.

[sasha031]

14. there's more

Asked about Abu Ghraib, Tierney said that for an interrogator, ''sadism is always right over the hill. You have to admit it. Don't fool yourself - there is a part of you that will say, 'This is fun.'''

Former weapons inspector Bill Tierney said on the Sean Hannity radio show that we will be shocked with what we are going to find in Iraq. He has no doubt we will find huge amounts of what Iraq swears it does not have.



Like many of the protesters, Mr. Tierney said he had experienced proof in his own life that God is real. He held out his left hand showing the traces of scars from injuries he suffered in a gas explosion in 1987.


"You can hardly see it anymore," he said, the tears cascading down his sun-darkened cheeks. "And I was burned all the way from my waist up. By the laws of physics, I should be dead. So I've seen miracles.

http://www.reload.ws/blog/2005/03/bill-tierney-is-nuts-post-take-two.html

[centristo]

19. theres more and more!

this guy gets around...

Inspector a U.S. Spy
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12304324&method=full&siteid=50143:patriot: :eyes:

23 October 2002
INSPECTOR A US SPY

A FORMER UN weapons inspector yesterday admitted spying for the Americans while working in Iraq.

American Bill Tierney confessed to giving the Pentagon targets for military action when he was a member of an inspection team between 1996 and 1998.



http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/856573/posts

Former intel officer says method aided interrogation

By Vince Crawley, Times staff writer

Chief Warrant Officer 3 Bill Tierney's military career began in 1983 when, he says, God told him that his mission in life was to join the Army.

His career ended 16 years, 9 months and 27 days later because of a prayer.

The Defense Intelligence Agency said Tierney, an Arabic-speaking analyst and former U.N. arms inspector, overstepped his bounds when he prayed with an Iraqi Christian defector shortly before the 1998 Desert Fox air strikes against Iraq. At the time, Tierney was assigned to the U.S. Central Command.

Such actions "could have resulted in the loss of a valuable intelligence source," Vice Adm. Thomas Wilson, then head of DIA, wrote to a member of the U.S. Congress.

Tierney, a devout Christian, says just the opposite took place. Before they prayed together, Tierney said the frightened Iraqi was "just a bundle of nerves" because he feared for the safety of his family still in Iraq. After the prayer, Tierney said, the defector grew calm and provided intelligence that continues to aid in the latest confrontation with Iraq. Furthermore, Tierney said, his decision to pray with the defector left such a positive impression that the Iraqi sent him a Christmas card.

"May God bless you and make the next year full of happiness and success," the defector wrote.

The next year turned out to be anything but.

An Air Force staff sergeant with a Muslim background who was involved in the debriefing of the Iraqi - but did not take part in the prayer - reported the incident to higher-ups.

Word then raced through military intelligence circles. Tierney was pulled off his next assignment - a plum post in Europe in which he would have helped track Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons trail - in part because a senior Central Command official misconstrued the situation and mistakenly believed Tierney had tried to preach Christianity to a Muslim. Instead, the Army offered him an assignment with XVIII Airborne Corps at Fort Bragg, N.C.

Tierney said he had the right to pray with a fellow Christian and insisted that he was a victim of discrimination because of his religious actions, a violation of Defense Department directives. Accepting the Bragg assignment would mean "saying it was all right to discriminate against Christians," according to one of his numerous legal appeals.

[centristo]

21. this dude is a psycho

http://billmon.org/archives/001784.html

Bill Tierney . . . had just returned from eight months working as an interrogator for US forces in Baghdad, and had come to talk, on the record, about torture.

''The Brits came up with an expression – wog,'' Tierney said. ''That stands for Wily Oriental Gentleman. There's a lot of wiliness in that part of the world.''. . .

After explaining his various psychological tactics to the audience, interrogator Bill Tierney (a private contractor working with the Army) said, ''I tried to be nuanced and culturally aware. But the suspects didn't break.''

Suddenly Tierney's temper rose. ''They did not break!'' he shouted. ''I'm here to win. I'm here so our civilization beats theirs! Now what are you willing to do to win?'' he asked, pointing to a woman in the front row. ''You are the interrogators, you are the ones who have to get the information from the Iraqis. What do you do? That word 'torture'. You immediately think, 'That's not me.' But are we litigating this war or fighting it?'' . . .

Asked about Abu Ghraib, Tierney said that for an interrogator, ''sadism is always right over the hill. You have to admit it. Don't fool yourself – there is a part of you that will say, 'This is fun.' ''

Boston Globe
Spy world
February 13, 2005

[Leopolds Ghost]

28. "stands for Wily Oriental Gentleman. there's alot of wiliness in that part

of the world..."

:wow: :rofl:

[TheGunslinger]

36. He would know wily

[sasha031]

27. Great work centristo

:toast:

Aaah he's he's another persecuted christian
Tierney said he had the right to pray with a fellow Christian and insisted that he was a victim of discrimination because of his religious actions, a violation of Defense Department directives. Accepting the Bragg assignment would mean "saying it was all right to discriminate against Christians," according to one of his numerous legal appeals.

[centristo]

16. more info on tierney from frontpage

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20154


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bill_Tierney

[Kansas Wyatt]

18. So, will ABC report the credibility of Bill Tierney also?

Has ABC been bombarded with information about Bill Tierney, and how he may have contributed to inaccurate political/religious biased information to the U.N.?

Will ABC stand by this man's credibility?

[Roland99]

20. Oh, they'll mention he was an inspector for UNSCOM

and that's about it.


Nightline is taking a DIVE w/o Koppel there.

[insane_cratic_gal]

24. Nice unbiased source there ABC

:sarcasm:


I hope you mailed that to them! On second hand .. nm just let them air it and we can do what they did to Dan Rather!

[LynnTheDem]

26. So BIll was it YOU who STOLE those tapes from the FBI???

Newsweek: Saddam Tapes: What They Don't Prove

The tapes were taken without permission from an FBI-run translation center, officials say, and are years old. Two government officials, requesting anonymity because of the sensitive subject, say the tapes in no way prove that WMD stockpiles or programs existed at the time of the U.S. invasion or were moved to another country before U.S. troops arrived.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11299205/site/newsweek

One of the most dramatic moments on the 12 hours of tape comes when Saddam predicts —during a meeting in the mid 1990s — a terrorist attack on the United States. "Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before August 2nd and told the British as well & that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction." Saddam goes on to say such attacks would be difficult to stop. "In the future, what would prevent a booby trapped car causing a nuclear explosion in Washington or a germ or a chemical one?" But he adds that Iraq would never do such a thing. "This is coming, this story is coming but not from Iraq."
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Investigation/story?id=1616996

A whole lot of people around the world for years have been warning the USA that terrorism is gonna hit us sooner or later. Including me. So when do I get invaded and occupied?

NO WMD IN IRAQ SINCE 1991. And Iraq has NEVER had a nuke. Get over it, rightwingnuts.

[rucky]

29. Something tells me the Saddam trial is not going well n/t

[Roland99]

30. Feel free to help enlighen the Freepers at the Nightline Msg Board!

http://forums.go.com/abcnews/Nightline/forum?start=0&forumID=15&byThread=true

[LynnTheDem]

31. When they hear the tapes they'll have egg on their faces yet again.

Remember the Faux Moos saga; "WE FOUND EM!...erm n/m... WE FOUND EM!...erm n/m..." for how many months?! :rofl:

Already the bushCabal has said the tapes DO NOT prove there was any "wmd" in Iraq, or moved elsewhere, before bush's Nuremburg Tribunal supreme crime.

How many times do bush's own rightwing weapons inspectors gotta say it; NO WMD, NO FACILITIES TO MAKE WMD since 1991.

Wonder who the FBI will charge for the theft of these tapes from an FBI center...

[sasha031]

34. how did this get in there

chrismichaels2856xPremature babies - Abortion
Posted: Feb 15, 2006 02:47 PM reply

1 Posts
Registered: Feb 15, 2006 02:45 PMTo me it is pretty ironic that we will do so much to save premature babies at the same time we are killing them left and right via abortion

paulsurNightline caves to the demands of terrorists
Posted: Feb 08, 2006 11:59 PM reply

2 Posts
Registered: Feb 08, 2006 11:54 PMIn tonights episode (2/8/2006), on the subject of Danish cartoons, Nightline chose to pixilate images of muhammed cartoons that were printed on a newspaper in it's peice. by choosing to blot out the actual images, Nightline has allowed the muslim terrorists to become their censors.
This is truly a sad development.
In fact, the submission to the demands made by these terrorists not to display these pictures by all the major America media outlets clearly shows that American media has no desire to protect freedoms of speech or expression. You should all hang your heads in shame.

http://weblog.theviewfromthecore.com/2006_02/ind_005226.html

they find it difficult to spell also
:)

[progressoid]

33. Tapes from the mid 1990's?

Tapes over a decade old are supposed to be their saving grace? Geez, what a bunch of shmucks.

[rpgamerd00d]

35. *cough*RatherGate*cough*