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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:27 PM
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Don't overlook the OBVIOUS: Intent of Total Coverup
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 09:27 PM by Sparkly
It's amazing how many people on TV are scratching their heads WONDERING about the delayed report, the delay in notifying tbe preznit, the news coming from Katherine Armstrong rather than anyone in the VP's office, and going to a local paper rather than a national contact.

HELLOOOO!!! Armstrong is their loose cannon -- she did NOT consult with Cheney before calling her pal at the Corpus Christi paper; in an early interview, she said they didn't know she was releasing the information (but assumed it'd be made public anyway). She even mentioned alcohol (now famously scrubbed) -- I'm sure they didn't want her to do that. She did NOT claim to be an eyewitness, but said when people ran toward the area she thought Cheney might have needed medical care. They got her to change her story, but they obviously didn't get to her soon enough.

There is NO WAY they decided this person should release such a story to a local paper -- that is absurd on its face. The obvious intent was for a complete coverup, perhaps even keeping it from Chimpy.

Every such incident points to a bigger closet: What ELSE are they hiding?!?

Important background info from Media Matters:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200602130008
http://mediamatters.org/items/200602140006
http://mediamatters.org/items/200602140016
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:28 PM
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1. ohh, a corpse maybe?
maybe there were 2 victims.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:30 PM
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2. Maybe the 3rd person did it?
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:33 PM
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6. I have a hard time believing Cheney would fall on the sword...
to take the heat off a third person (mistress or otherwise). I mean... that would take character - something this man is severely lacking.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:40 PM
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13. True -- he'll only say what he HAS to say
including the ridiculous statement that the Office of the Vice President of the United States decided it was the proper thing to have a civilian relay a story of this magnitude to a small-town paper!!

Once it was known that he shot Whittington, what could he say except "I shot Whittington." (But notice they cushioned his fall with two days of "accidents happen" and "hahaha" and "peppered" and "knocked silly" and "Whittington got in the line of fire without announcing himself," yadda yadda yadda...)
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:52 PM
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21. Yeah... this administration only takes responsibilty when...
It's blatently obvious they fucked up (i.e. Bush with Hurricane Katrina, Bush with no Saddam-Al Queda ties, etc.)

My favorite abuse of power was the police showing up the next day to interview Cheney (giving him plenty of time to sober up).
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:58 PM
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24. Yup -- a ploy children know well.
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 10:01 PM by Sparkly
When my daughter was little, if I found evidence she'd done something wrong, and asked her to explain what had happened, her first response was ALWAYS, "What do you know?" (Edited to explain: She wanted to know what she HAD to admit to.)

On complicated issues, this administration can be painted into a corner and STILL say, "What paint? There's no paint!" But on something simple like this, AFTER it's yanked out of there hands (by Mrs. Armstrong, in this case), they damage control, and then ACT like they're "taking responsibility."
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 04:18 AM
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43. I'm curious Sparkly - is your daughter a lawyer now?
LOL
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:49 PM
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19. Geeze...
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 09:51 PM by misternormal
Haven't they run out of swords yet???

The new FEMA guy fell on one today concerning the lack of response to Katrina didn't he??

Said the Dept of Homeland Security was delayed, but left the prez out of it...

But who can forget the convoy with Curious George standing in the first vehicle like a knight in shining armor???

I'm gonna be sick.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:47 PM
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18. Probably alive but badly mutilated. His face must be hamburger and
now there is the shot in the liver!
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:31 PM
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3. Agreed, I thought Armstrong hopped the reservation when I first heard her.
She does have a very close relationship with the local reporter she broke the story to.

How could you deny a dear friend the scoop that would make her career?

Armstrong broke rank for that reason, probably.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:32 PM
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4. That, and...
she probably DID think it was going to be released nationally, anyway -- so no harm done giving her friend a scoop.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:32 PM
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5. And when/if it did get out, WHO would be the PATSY?
Believe me, these guys talked it over, maybe
even considering blaming it on Whittington himself.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:35 PM
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9. They did damage control once it got out.
The most difficult thing was spinning HOW it got out. "We decided to have Katherine Armstrong make a statement to the local paper" -- I mean, pulEEEEEZE...!!! They'd have released a VERY carefully worded, VERY carefully managed "message" if they intended for it to reach the media.

But yes, you're right -- before Cheney made his statement "taking responsibility," they made sure they floated all the stuff about Whittington getting into the line of fire, accidents happen all the time, euphemisms like he got "knocked silly," jokes about it to minimize the whole thing, etc...
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:39 PM
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12. No, I mean: "Can we get Whittington to say he shot himself?"
Or, "Can we get somebody else here to say they shot him?"
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:43 PM
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16. Oh yeah
They may well have been considering (threatening, bribing) along those lines, but Armstrong let the cat out of the bag before they had a chance to set up their story.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:37 PM
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10. how can we be sure it wasn't the bird's fault?
I heard that the birds ducked and tried to get out of the way, thereby the old guy got a faceful.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:34 PM
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7. Actually. . THAT explanation seems the simplest
AND the most likely. Since he's a good friend, he might have been willing to not report it
..First Cheney's personal paramedics tried to handle it. When they couldn't they brought him to a little local hospital figuring they could "damage control" well enough there in Armstrong's backyard.
Then they realized that ANY hospital would have to make a report of gunshot wounds, and she spent several hours trying to reach her local "pet journalist" on a paper that's been covering their "society doings" for generations..

I think you've hit on the truth here, Sparkly
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:35 PM
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8. I thought Rove talked to her 90 minutes after the event?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:42 PM
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14. Who said that and when?
Some of the lines in this story are hard to follow... (Do you have a link?)
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:20 PM
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32. Cheney actually said it - in the Fox interview
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:31 PM
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34. Thanks -- I see where he said Rove supposedly talked to Armstrong
I don't see a timeframe, but that's not important. The more significant timeframe is that this is Cheney talking TODAY. There's no reason to believe a damn thing he's saying at this point.

(And again, his reasons for supposedly making a *decision* for Armstrong to call the local paper are just absurd!! And I love this: "She had trouble that morning actually finding a reporter." Hah!! It doesn't take much to find a NATIONAL reporter for a story like this, and there was NO reason the VP's office would want it released to a local paper first. And the head-scratching media KNOWS that!)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:45 PM
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37. Arghh, sorry. I've been reading so many places...
Slate. Firedoglake. Digby. Daily Kos.......

No idea where I read it.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:12 PM
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30. But what did Rove say - maybe he asked Armstrong to keep quiet ?
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 10:24 PM by Tin Man
...sparkly has a point - the timeline, the cast of characters, the manner in which the story broke - it's not out of the question that the NeoCabal didn't intend to cover-up the WHOLE story.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:38 PM
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11. I thought that all along. IT was also asked on a TV show tonight.
Tweety I think, asked his panel if the original idea was not to release the info at all.

SStupid AHs don't seem to realize that the days of only dial phones and newspapers are long gone!
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:42 PM
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15. OBVIOUS = it drowns out Libby LEAK CIA AGENT order by
Leaky Dick his gangsta badself.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:46 PM
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17. GMTA
Libby dropped a dime on Cheney and the hunting story is sucking all the air out of the disclosure truly criminal acts.

I got that vague feeling from the get-go but when I read the story that the WH was "furious" with Cheney over the distraction from all the good news about Iraq and our booming economy, that cinched it.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:53 PM
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22. Well, the "White House is Furious" is a familiar line.
They drag that out everytime they need to distance Chimpy from something, and make him seem in control.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:07 PM
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27. These guys know how to distract from their crimes
It may be a distraction-of-opportunity. But they are draining the shooting of this guy like vampires.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:11 PM
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29. But I don't think it's gonna help Dick's 25% approval rating.
If they wanted to do that, I think they'd have made HIM the victim somehow. (Although, in a sense, his appearance today may have been an attempt at that.)

Or, they'd have drummed up some sort of sex scandal involving a Democrat. Preferably one involving a missing white woman.

And I still think they're loaded for the right time: a new "terror alert," a swift-boating of Fitzgerald, and who knows what else.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:49 PM
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36. I bet they do a 'terror strike' distraction. Probably germs/food.
I'd bet my arse on it -and maybe during the upcoming 2007 trial(s).
:shrug:
:tinfoilhat:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:51 PM
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20. If you're saying you think it's a manufactured story, I disagree.
There is NO "upside" for them on this. It piles ON to the CIA/Scooter scandal, highlighting Cheney's capacity for dishonesty, cover-ups, and ineptitude to say the least.

It also goes against the macho posturing, highlighting the privileged relationship Dick "Other Priorities" has with guns and shooting (and the NRA), as opposed to the young people he's sent into an unnecessary war -- and the Democrats who oppose him who handled guns on battlefields while he pursued his "other priorities."

It shows BushCo as hypocrites for ridiculing John Kerry's hunting excursion in October 2004.

It brings up words like "reckless," "incompetent," and "untrustworthy."

Oh no -- I don't think they wanted this story at ALL. All of Scotty's squirming this week indicates that, as well.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 01:04 AM
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38. It's not manufactured, but is used to distract from his REAL CRIME.
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 01:05 AM by upi402
I hear ya. It's just that they work everything to their advantage. They use it to manipulate and distract.
Cheney's BIG crime is instructing Libby to leak the CIA agent -if we ever get to the truth on that one.
:toast: But -yes- you're right.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:55 PM
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23. Sorry
None of it passing the smell test.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:00 PM
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25. No, it does not pass the smell test.
Which is why it's amazing and amusing to see talking heads scratching their scalps going, "Hm, this is certainly odd...." and not connecting the DOTS that are right in front of their faces!!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:36 PM
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35. Speaking of those that Scratch their Heads.
It certainly is "odd," at that. As if they're absolutely clueless.

NEWS BULLETIN: No one is buying it anymore. And, I live in a very large area as diverse as the world is round.

If it smells bad, it is! Evil-ba$tards!! <--- from one ole' Republican today.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:02 PM
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26. I think this Pamela person has shrunk too far into the background.
If you were writing a script -

you could write her in as the shooter, but blame it on Dick because after all he is the high and mighty real President and he could get those loyal SS boys to do and say whatever he wanted since they are probably in their jobs because they're lemmings. Dick is one arrogant guy and ....

Then, if you were a writer you could also concoct a romance between Pamela and Dick or Pamela and Harry ...

and, in all scenarios -

Dick's the most logical person to get away with it.

Including not reporting it.

That then means there is another scenario - Pamela and Dick were a number, but Harry and Pamela started up a little thing and Catherine gets upset for some reason or loyalty or whatever.

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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:07 PM
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28. There are plenty of possibilities, but...
The most likely one to me (which doesn't exclude those scenarios) is that she realized the thing to do was stay as QUIET as possible and let the Big Guys handle it. Somehow Armstrong didn't get that idea.

(And btw, it's possible SHE was actually an eyewitness, rather than Armstrong -- they're now claiming Armstrong was the eyewitness as part of their lame reasoning about why they supposedly "decided" to have her break the story.)
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:25 PM
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33. Catherine and Pamela?
What, no Lynne? I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked! :wow:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:14 PM
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31. mass graves?
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threadkillaz Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 04:37 AM
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45. 3200 people still missing from Katrina
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:22 AM
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39. I think they may have DESIRED total cover-up but realized late
that this was not possible.Cheney's interview was not very good and did not further his cause in my belief.

I think Armstrong went to local trusted media on her own when she realized the story could not be contained. There is a story somewhere about how she decided this on Sunday morning with her sister and Cheney said something like "Do whatever you're comfortable with." But, when she did go to the paper, she did everything within her power to minimize and trivialize the incident. Once she did go to the local paper, I think they thought, well, it's out there, we don't need to do anything more. Cheney in his interview kept stressing that the delay was due to the desire for accuracy. That doesn't seem to hold true when his version with Hume tonight contradicted all the "he was lightly peppered" "Pride hurt more than anything" bs that was initially being ladled out by the bucketful by Armstrong. So that first report by Armstrong could not have been more inaccurate.

Because of their desire for secrecy, privacy and cover-up - they exploded this topic themselves. Dick Cheney could have called his press person who could have co-ordinated with McClellan or whomever and said "There has been a tragic accident tonight. While on a private hunting vacation with friends, the Vice-President accidentally discharged a 28 guage shotgun into a hunting companion while quail hunting. The proper authorities have been notified and are investigating. The medical status of the victim is serious but stable." End of story. It would have been followed and covered, but everyone would have said - hey, it was an accident and dropped it.

He is an incorrigible fool if would do the same thing all over again as he said.
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Citrene Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 04:36 AM
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44. and may it be their foolish arrogance that finally brings them down.
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 04:37 AM by Citrene
Plain and simple.

and yet I doubt it will. It is just too much to hope for because "we the people" are just too damned removed, stupid and don't care that will be our downfall.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:35 AM
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40. What happened to the other eyewitnesses?
:shrug:



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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:39 AM
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41. Remember thay had lunch on the ranch
togetehr on Sunday. They were all there - Armstrong lied big time.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 04:03 AM
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42. I'll tell you exactly what happened
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 04:05 AM by ribrepin
They had no intention of ever releasing this story. The Cheney people stayed in Texas long enough to get Harry, Katherine and anyone else who witnessed the shooting on board to keep it quiet and then hauled ass out of Texas.

They neglected to leave someone in Texas to help Mrs. Armstrong answer the inevitable questions from locals. Someone saw something--the ambulance taking Harry to the hospital, the airlift or the cops @ the Armstrong ranch. Most likely, all three.

Mrs. Armstrong was probably questioned about the commotion by a friend or the reporter and spilled the beans. Cheney and company were too busy in their cabal to take her phone calls.

I wish Mr. Whittington well, but this sure exposes the incompetence of these assholes.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 04:53 AM
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46. I'll tell you what they're hiding...
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 04:54 AM by goodboy
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/02/15/news/orleans.php

Morgue for Katrina shuts down
By Shaila Dewan The New York Times

WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2006


CARVILLE, Louisiana After using it for only 10 weeks, the Federal Emergency Management Agency has shut down a $17 million state-of-the-art morgue built to handle victims of Hurricane Katrina, according to agency officials.

The morgue, which can decontaminate and examine 150 bodies a day and has living space for nearly 500 workers, is closing because the number of bodies coming in has dwindled to about one a week, said Chuck Smith, a FEMA official.

Smith said Tuesday the morgue had been developed when officials believed there would be 5,000 deaths. Instead, there have been about 1,300 in Louisiana so far and it was apparent within a few weeks of the hurricane that the number of deaths would be 1,000 to 2,000.

"It is the Taj Mahal of forensic science; it is a beautiful place," said Frank Minyard, the New Orleans coroner. "But by the time we moved there we were finished with all the autopsies."

The shutdown began over the past weekend, when the morgue accepted its last body, found in the Ninth Ward in New Orleans.

FEMA has begun removing the equipment in the morgue and putting it in storage in preparation for the next disaster with high casualties.

State and local officials say they would have preferred that the federal government leave the equipment for their use, expressing concern that dozens of bodies remain to be found in the debris and damaged houses from the storm. Although state officials signed off on the morgue's disassembly in December, Louis Cataldie, the state emergency medical director, said that he thought the plan was flexible, and that the facility would still be usable after FEMA was gone.

But Smith said the federal agency's role had ended.

"Our mission is to support the state and local governments," said Smith, the incident commander of the Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team at the Carville site. "When we get to the point where they're no longer overwhelmed, it's time for us to go."

The team, known as D-Mort, is a part of FEMA. After Hurricane Katrina, it was given the job of helping to identify storm victims.

Of the 910 bodies that were examined by D-Mort, all but 95 have been identified. About 100 have been identified but their families have not been located, or they have yet to be picked up by funeral homes.

Among D-Mort's last actions will be to transfer the remaining bodies to New Orleans, where officials are planning to build a mausoleum. Bodies that are identified, in some cases by DNA testing, could be disinterred in the future, officials said. The morgue also examined 610 bodies washed out of cemeteries after the flooding caused by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and put them in new coffins, officials said.

The Orleans Parish morgue was destroyed in the storm, and Minyard, the coroner, said he hoped to sign a lease on an unused funeral home at the end of this week. FEMA will pay to replace equipment he already had, but neither he nor the state had a dental X-ray machine or the software that compares dental records, all of which will be removed from the Carville morgue. Nearly 400 identifications have been made using dental records.

No one seemed to know what would happen to the 70,000-square-foot, or 6,500-square-meter, building that housed the morgue, built from the ground up on private land belonging to Bear Industries, a construction supply company.

In addition to the morgue, a warehouse, and rows of never-used cubicles, it included a cafeteria and fitness center.

CARVILLE, Louisiana After using it for only 10 weeks, the Federal Emergency Management Agency has shut down a $17 million state-of-the-art morgue built to handle victims of Hurricane Katrina, according to agency officials.

The morgue, which can decontaminate and examine 150 bodies a day and has living space for nearly 500 workers, is closing because the number of bodies coming in has dwindled to about one a week, said Chuck Smith, a FEMA official.

Smith said Tuesday the morgue had been developed when officials believed there would be 5,000 deaths. Instead, there have been about 1,300 in Louisiana so far and it was apparent within a few weeks of the hurricane that the number of deaths would be 1,000 to 2,000.

"It is the Taj Mahal of forensic science; it is a beautiful place," said Frank Minyard, the New Orleans coroner. "But by the time we moved there we were finished with all the autopsies."

The shutdown began over the past weekend, when the morgue accepted its last body, found in the Ninth Ward in New Orleans.

FEMA has begun removing the equipment in the morgue and putting it in storage in preparation for the next disaster with high casualties.

State and local officials say they would have preferred that the federal government leave the equipment for their use, expressing concern that dozens of bodies remain to be found in the debris and damaged houses from the storm. Although state officials signed off on the morgue's disassembly in December, Louis Cataldie, the state emergency medical director, said that he thought the plan was flexible, and that the facility would still be usable after FEMA was gone.

But Smith said the federal agency's role had ended.

"Our mission is to support the state and local governments," said Smith, the incident commander of the Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team at the Carville site. "When we get to the point where they're no longer overwhelmed, it's time for us to go."

The team, known as D-Mort, is a part of FEMA. After Hurricane Katrina, it was given the job of helping to identify storm victims.

Of the 910 bodies that were examined by D-Mort, all but 95 have been identified. About 100 have been identified but their families have not been located, or they have yet to be picked up by funeral homes.

Among D-Mort's last actions will be to transfer the remaining bodies to New Orleans, where officials are planning to build a mausoleum. Bodies that are identified, in some cases by DNA testing, could be disinterred in the future, officials said. The morgue also examined 610 bodies washed out of cemeteries after the flooding caused by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and put them in new coffins, officials said.

The Orleans Parish morgue was destroyed in the storm, and Minyard, the coroner, said he hoped to sign a lease on an unused funeral home at the end of this week. FEMA will pay to replace equipment he already had, but neither he nor the state had a dental X-ray machine or the software that compares dental records, all of which will be removed from the Carville morgue. Nearly 400 identifications have been made using dental records.

No one seemed to know what would happen to the 70,000-square-foot, or 6,500-square-meter, building that housed the morgue, built from the ground up on private land belonging to Bear Industries, a construction supply company.

In addition to the morgue, a warehouse, and rows of never-used cubicles, it included a cafeteria and fitness center.

CARVILLE, Louisiana After using it for only 10 weeks, the Federal Emergency Management Agency has shut down a $17 million state-of-the-art morgue built to handle victims of Hurricane Katrina, according to agency officials.

The morgue, which can decontaminate and examine 150 bodies a day and has living space for nearly 500 workers, is closing because the number of bodies coming in has dwindled to about one a week, said Chuck Smith, a FEMA official.

Smith said Tuesday the morgue had been developed when officials believed there would be 5,000 deaths. Instead, there have been about 1,300 in Louisiana so far and it was apparent within a few weeks of the hurricane that the number of deaths would be 1,000 to 2,000.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/FEMA_outsources_Katrina_body_count_to_firm_implicated_in_bodydumping_scan_0913.html

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They've been hiding/disposing of the bodies to mke the death tolll go down
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 06:51 AM
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47. There were alot of people out there aside from the hunting party.
This wasn't just Deadeye Dick and his pals tramping off alone out on the range in search of prey.

According to the NYT there were drivers, professional dog handlers, and riders on horseback to find and flush out the birds so that Deadeye could get his limit without putting undue stress on the old ticker. Could they really vouch for the loyalty of ranch hands and dog trainers who saw the whole thing and knew who fired the shot?

Then of course there was the staff in not one, but two hospitals who were not under Mrs. Armstrong's control not to mention anyone who might have seen the ambulance leave the property sirens blaring. If locals knew that Deadeye Dick was there there would have been questions raised.

Once it became clear that Mr. Whittington was in bad enough shape that he was going to need care at a regional trauma center, they had to go public.




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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 06:59 AM
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48. The next spin will be that Dems are exploiting Cheney's accident...
...as a precursor to TAKING AWAY YOUR GUNS. Rally 'round - Dems are GONNA OUTLAW HUNTING!

Wait for it - it's coming. Mark my words...:grr:
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