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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:56 PM
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Cheney's other hunting partner -- Pam Willeford (sex scandal?)
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 10:57 PM by Donailin
Sex sells, let's push this till the media picks it up. It's the only way to get the attention of the country.

The real story is already emerging, if you're willing to do a little digging. Cheney and Whittington went hunting with two women (not their wives), there was some drinking, and Whittington wound up shot. Armstrong didn't see the incident but claimed she had, Cheney refused to be questioned by the Sheriff until the next morning, and a born-again evangelical physician has been downplaying Whittington's injuries since they occurrred.

Neither the press nor law enforcement seems inclined to investigate.

Before the right-wing commenters howl - there's documentation for all of these statements. Let's take them one by one: In addition to Cheney and Whittington, the hunting party included Katherine Armstrong (who was in the car at the time of the shooting: more on that later). After lots of evasive comments that only referred to a "third hunter," we now know her identity: Pamela Willeford, the US Ambassador to Switzerland.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/cheneys-chappaquiddick-i_b_15711.html
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:00 PM
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1. "Git yore hands off muh bitch!" KABLAMMO!!!!!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 12:32 AM
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39. My little voice is tellin' me that's probably what happened.n/t
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threadkillaz Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:01 PM
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2. Tucker Coleslaw trying to get out ahead of this one...
...on this show by calling this a Conspiracy Theory.

But hey, maybe he will mention her name on national tv.

That will help get this out.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:54 PM
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34. Just his mentioning the possibility, even as a "conspiracy," gets this out
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 11:54 PM by txindy
Two or three people actually watch his show, I've heard. They'll tell two friends and so on and so on and...

:rofl: Thanks, Tuck! :rofl:
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:01 PM
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3. wait there's more. .
"Then there was this Armstrong quote on MSNBC and picked up by Firedoglake (later dutifully scrubbed, but preserved on Google cache): "There may be a beer or two in there," (Armstrong) said, 'but remember not everyone in the party was shooting.'"

Interestingly, Armstrong's playing with words here. She later said that she (Armstrong) hadn't had anything to drink, so at least one of the other three must have been drinking - and the other three were shooting. So while her statement was literally correct ("not everyone ... was shooting"), it gives the false impression that nobody drank and shot.

Then there was this item (courtesy kos):


Armstrong said she saw Cheney's security detail running toward the scene. "The first thing that crossed my mind was he had a heart problem," she told The Associated Press.
In other words, she didn't see the accident. All of her statements, replete with colorful sidebars about getting "peppered pretty good," gave the false impression she was an eyewitness. She wasn't.

And what about Dr. David Blanchard, who made such light of Whittington's injuries? Before the heart attack occurred, Blanchard gave no indication that pellets had entered Whittington's torso or major organs (we now know that at least one other pellet entered his liver). I found an interesting quote. After asserting that spiritual beliefs help people recover more quickly (which studies have suggested may be true), Blanchard said this of people with out of body and near death experiences:


"These people do quite well in their disease processes," he said. "The Lord wasn't quite ready for them yet . . . It makes believers out of them."
It's likely that Blanchard is also the same "Dr. David Blanchard" who is listed as Vice Chairperson of World Hope International, a Christian evangelical aid group.

Blanchard's certainly entitled to his own beliefs, and World Hope International (if he's the same Blanchard) has done some good work, albeit with a proselytizing bent. But most evangelicals in this country are ardent supporters of the Bush/Cheney Administration. This may explain the otherwize puzzling word choices Dr. Blanchard made to play down Whittington's injuries, especially before the heart attack made that more difficult to do.

So was Cheney drinking, and was there anything inappropriate about this hunting party? We don't know, and nobody's investigating. There's reason to be suspicious. We do have the suggestion that drinking was taking place, we have inconsistencies and a pattern of deception in Armstrong's statements, we have a shooting injury that's far more serious than originally claimed ... and a Sheriff's Department and national press that have already proclaimed the VP innocent of all wrongdoing.

I was right to call this Cheney's Chappaquiddick. The parallels get stronger every day. Of course, Chappaquiddick happened almost forty years ago, and Ted Kennedy's turned his personal life around. Cheney's actions happened this weekend. There's reason to be suspicious of the Vice President's behavior, starting with the cover-up itself. "

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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:00 AM
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58. doncha love how these people parse words
so that whatever they say is technically correct but does not answer the question. They practice this. Whenever I see people doing this, I know there are a lot more lies behind whatever crumbs they offer for public consumption. These are people who think in legal terms only--there is no higher morality.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:01 PM
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4. Women go for a guy who can slaughter tame birds by the dozens.
A man mowing down birds as they escape their pens....it's catnip, baby.

It's not his fault gals are warm for his form.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:02 PM
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5. and the american public can sink their teeth and emotion
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 11:03 PM by Donailin
into a sex scandal. Why? Because it is one thing EVERYONE, even the braindead, can understand.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:06 PM
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7. Sad, but true.
One on hand, I'm disgusted that the press has finally found a sense of outrage. On the other, that it came because they were delayed a news cycle by a coverup depresses me.

I'll take it, because accidentally shooting somebody is getting traction where purposefully lying the country into a war isn't.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:13 PM
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17. exactly.
cause you know, just because thousands and thousands, TENS OF THOUSANDS of people are dead because of this guys insane drive for violence to the point of LYING about some bullshit threat of WMD doesn't mean he's a bad guy!

But if he cheated on his wife?? Game fucking OVER.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:07 PM
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8. LOL
Ah think ah have the vapahs! :rofl:
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:09 PM
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13. I hope that was sarcasm. I'm a woman, and that doesn't do it for me.
Especially if Cheney is involved. :puke: :scared: :thumbsdown: :cry: :banghead: :hide:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:15 PM
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18. Now, really.
Who is seriously calling Cheney an attractive man, with or without piles of dead birds at his feet?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:04 PM
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6. So, let me get this straight...
Because they're women, they're obviously only there for sexual matters? What if the US Ambassador to Switzerland was there, and his name was, oh, I don't know...George?

Devil's advocate. Have at it.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:08 PM
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11. I refuse to believe any human of either gender could be a big enough whore
to screw Cheney for any amount of money. I'm series!!11!1!
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:08 PM
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12. you know what?
I don't even care anymore. I'm so utterly frustrated with all the crimes that they commit and get away with that I am prepared to throw shit out there and see what sticks.

And of all the things we least expect, a sex scandal is it -- at least with bigus dickus. Face it, he's been married to his wife since frickin high school. YOU KNOW they have to hate each others guts by now. :evilgrin:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:31 PM
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24. bigus dickus, hehehe! n/t
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:04 AM
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45. "Let the son of a bitch deny it!" - LBJ
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:12 PM
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16. Pamela Willeford


Also noted that Darth never mentioned her name only refered to her as "the other hunter. Darth stated that Ms. Armstrong was an eyewitness many times when it is obvious now that she was not. This doesn't add up to Pamela Willeford having any sexual relationship with Darth but it does bring up the fact that she was the actual eyewitness. Why did she not give a statement?
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:17 PM
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20. Because the SS was getting her the hell out of there
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 11:18 PM by Donailin
as well as waiting long enough for the alcohol to be purged from the blood.
Alan Gershowitz notes:

"This belongs completely in the realm of speculation, but it is speculation based on my own experiences as a criminal lawyer. Why would a media-savvy and clever man like Dick Cheney delay notifying the press and the police about an accident when a) he knew it would eventually be covered by the press and b) he knew he would be criticized for delaying release of the story?

A simple cost/benefit analysis suggests that he (or those advising him) must have believed that there was more to be gained than lost by a 14 hour delay that would eventually be made public. It is likely, therefore, that something happened during that 14 hour period which was worth the negative costs of the delay.

What is the most likely thing to happen during a 14 hour delay that is worth the negative publicity? One possibility is that it takes approximately that period of time for alcohol to dissipate in the body and no longer be subject to accurate testing. It is fairly common for people involved in alcohol-related accidents to delay reporting them until the alcohol has left the body. There is no hard evidence that this is what happened here, but we are entitled to a better explanation. We should be told whether Vice President Cheney's victim had alcohol in his system when he was taken to the hospital. Was there any alcohol at or near the hunting area? Were any in the hunting party carrying flasks (which is apparently common among hunters)? What was Cheney doing just before he went hunting? Did anyone in the hunting party have a drink? We do know that Cheney had two drunk driving convictions when he was in his early 20s, but he has apparently been clean since then.

There are certainly other explanations for the 14 hour delay, but simply postponing the inevitable publication of a damaging story is not one of them. Nor is the fact that Cheney is, by nature, a secretive man. The burden of proof has now shifted to the Vice President to explain why he made this stupid, or very clever, decision. We're waiting for his explanation."


<<
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-dershowitz/dick-cheneys-delay_b_15715.html
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:45 PM
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32. Well, I don't see Rove
giving head to Bush nor statements that would put him in federal confinement, either. He's witnessed plenty, I think, and he's not going to give any statement either.
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oioioi Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 01:32 AM
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43. I did not engage in blood-sport with that woman.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:34 PM
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26. My female cousin hunts with her husband
They like to go hunting every once in a while together. If you're wondering they do eat their kill.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:41 PM
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30. My point is
that the suggestion that the only reason these women were there is to play girlfriend/service these men, so to speak. That if these women were men, it'd be different.

In this context, the point isn't even who kills nor eats what. That's another issue altogether, and not pertinent to this discussion.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 12:31 AM
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38. And I'm echoing that women do hunt
:eyes:
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 03:13 AM
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53. Does your female cousin go hunting with other men?
Married men?

Whose wives aren't around?

For a whole weekend?

Valentine's weekend?

Just asking.

I don't care who Cheney's screwing on the side, but the Republican base does. I'm perfectly willing to hit them with this like a round of birdshot to the face. Let the jackasses who impeached Clinton for adultery defend Cheny's sex-and-killin' weekend romp! :)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:59 PM
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36. Who CARES
When you have somebody on the ropes, take 'em out woman!!! Criminy, now is not the time for feminist outrage. Sheesh.

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 12:30 AM
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37. As a man, thanks
for calling me a feminist. It means I'm speaking from the heart.

Oh, and when you have someone on the ropes, you do less damage due to the close proximity. I'd rather back off, go to the center of the ring, and pound the hell out of them, putting them down for the count.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:19 AM
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55. exactly. nt.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:19 AM
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54. And once again we refuse to fight dirty.
Yes of course in a different world it would be wrong to suggest that just because these two rich old men went on a weekend trip with two women not their wives, that anything improper happened. We have no evidence. We have no blue dress. We have merely the suggestion of impropriety.

But that is not this world. We have a scandal that the media cannot ignore. We need to get down in the gutter here.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:07 PM
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9. But they later said Whingtton's wife was there
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:10 PM
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14. well then
that just makes them sick perverted fucks.

Why do I picture the Bohemian Grove when I think about this insane story?
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:35 PM
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28. I haven't seen anything about the wife of Whittington
and I have certainly seen a lot of print on this; only the daughter. I actually thought he was a widower. Where is this reference, pretty please?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:56 PM
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35. Darth, himself, said those words. Whether they're fact is another matter.
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 11:57 PM by txindy
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/The_Raw_transcript_Cheneys_interview_with_0215.html

Oh, and Armstrong, the on-again, off-again 'eyewitness', is the source for "Willeford's husband was at the ranch." So, grain of salt there, too. The size of an 18-wheeler.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 01:28 AM
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42. Whittington's wife...
According to the Cheney/Armstrong etc. version -- Dick visited the hospital on Sunday, where Whittington and his wife were.

Mrs. Whittington was at the ranch, but not out on the hunt, apparently.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:07 PM
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10. Harry hunted quaylel, while Cheney chased tail (nt)
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:11 PM
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15. The Swiss love Pepper.
This is the secondary reason for the delay, I agree.

The first is that he shot a man in the face.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:16 PM
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19. Shot a seventy eight year old man in the face.
Be like the guys on the daily show, who repeated the whole phrase over and over.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. Hey,
I, and several million others, said it first. They just said it funnier.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:20 PM
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21. say, who ever has given me hearts
Why, THANK YOU!!

I'm pleasantly surprised and flattered.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:27 PM
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22. Whats obvious here is the first report out only said he
was hunting with the Swiss Ambasador but didn't say who it was and that it was a woman... Plus I haven't heard the identity of the second woman...

So Cheney was showing off to the gals...

:rofl:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 12:35 AM
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40. And now she's seemed to disappear
How funny.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:33 PM
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25. Yeah so where were the men?
When Kerry went hunting in 2004 he went with two other guys and a dog. :shrug: Oh and I've also read that the Armstrong's woman's name is really Ann and not Katherine. See my post on that: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x436710
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:40 PM
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29. Ann is her mother.
I can't believe I got a heart. It was so needed today. God Bless, sweet person. Many thanks.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 12:36 AM
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41. Ah
Got ya.
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:35 PM
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27. Cheney is in charge of the way this planet spins,
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 11:35 PM by Lancer
and this weekend is more proof than we ever needed of that. Still totally speechless over the whole mess.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:42 PM
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31. Where drunken Dead Eye Dick shot Harry the Lawyer over some Floozy.
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 11:43 PM by norml
It's the Saint Valentine's Weekend Massacre!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:50 PM
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33. Cheney says ..........
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 11:53 PM by RGBolen
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:01 AM
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44. Cheney was guest of honor at a reception hosted by Pam Willeford
Iraq, terrorism dominate Cheney's meetings on sideline of World Economic Forum

LAST UPDATE: 1/23/2004 6:03:01 PM


DAVOS, Switzerland (AP) - Vice President Dick Cheney will appeal to U.S. allies on Saturday for continued cooperation on shared issues ranging from the war against terrorism to economic revival.

snip

Cheney met with the two leaders at a hotel in this Swiss resort city where he was the guest of honor Friday night at a reception hosted by Pam Willeford, the U.S. ambassador to Switzerland.

Admiring the setting, Cheney said he couldn't think of a more beautiful one except "perhaps my own valley in the Grand Tetons," referring to his home in Wyoming.

snip

http://www.abc4.com/news/world/story.aspx?content_id=F9DD7A31-B259-47E5-ACF2-80A4EEC9DBAB
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:18 AM
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46. she's in effect a concubine
she's was the dick's main bonee for about a decade, but she's spent the last seven years trying to help him get another erection. They still go through the dick and dick's whore routine whenever they can.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:45 AM
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47. She was a guest at Camp David same time as Dick.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:47 AM
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48. viagra must have been part of the trip with these old farts
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:49 AM
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49. You know we don't have a Guest list of who was at the armstrongs
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:59 AM
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50. her state dept bio

BIOGRAPHY

Pamela Pitzer Willeford
Ambassador, Switzerland and Liechtenstein
Term of Appointment: 10/27/2003 to present




Pamela Willeford was sworn in as U.S. Ambassador to Switzerland and Liechtenstein on October 27, 2003.
Ambassador Willeford has devoted her career to developing education policy and promoting community service in Texas. She recently completed 8 years of service on the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, which is charged with overseeing all public post-secondary education in Texas. Under her leadership as Chairman for the past 5 years, the Board has developed a comprehensive higher education plan for the state called “Closing the Gaps by 2015.” The plan is directed at closing education gaps within Texas, as well as between Texas and other U.S. states.

Pamela Willeford's experience in education began over thirty years ago as a teacher in public and private schools in Dallas, Texas. During the 1980’s, she served as a trustee of St. Andrew’s Episcopal School in Austin, Texas, and began the development program for the school. She has also devoted time to many community service projects, including serving as Director of Development and Texas Capitol Rededication Coordinator for the State Preservation Board, and Founding Board and Executive Committee Member of the Texas Book Festival since its inception in 1996.

She has been involved in numerous civic organizations, including The Helping Hand Home for Children, SafePlace Center for Battered Women, Trinity Episcopal School, the Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum, and the Junior League of Austin. She was awarded “Volunteer Extraordinaire” by the Junior League of Austin in 2002 and “Woman of Distinction” from the Girl Scouts Lone Star Council in 2003. She has also served as Advisory Committee Chairman for The Laura Bush Foundation for America's Libraries.

Pamela Willeford grew up in Breckenridge, Texas and graduated from the University of Texas at Austin.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/25683.htm
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 03:03 AM
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51. WOW and she is now a ambassador to Switzerland
Texas gal makes it big...
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 08:17 AM
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57. Skimpy Resume For An Ambassadorship Those Things Require Cash Or Ass
I don't see money in her back round so she's been Dicks Hoe Mama for quite some time it would appear. Please let all the sordid details come out. Also where was Lynne on this Valentines day weekend? Betcha she was with her girlfriend! This is gonna get really tasty. Shit and we thought, Halliburton, Enron, Iraq, Plame, NSA, ad nauseum was gonna bring the bastards down. HAH. POONTANG WINS!
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52. Bernie's reading Huffington Post on air NOW!
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56. Cheney's Swiss Miss....
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