Oh, so obvious the lie. What does this picture of Cheney tell you?

[understandinglife]

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.gameshout.com/news/022006/article3151.htm&h=150&w=200&sz=11&tbnid=A1l-fSlIe5su5M:&tbnh=74&tbnw=99&hl=en&start=58&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCheney%2Bhunting%26start%3D40%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2004-34,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN

Think about it.

The answer tells you how big a lie they have been telling.


Peace.

[EstimatedProphet]

1. Why is he wearing a sportcoat?

[understandinglife]

4. Nope. But, he is wearing something else ....

:evilgrin:


Peace.

[txindy]

8. Ear protectors.

He likes those. There are other pics with him firing a gun and wearing them, too. With his purty orange coat, too. :eyes:

[understandinglife]

17. Exactly. See # 15!!

Peace.

[txindy]

21. I've said this since Darth's story emerged. Someone had a different idea,

They seem to think he could hear through them. :shrug:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=423196&mesg_id=423383

[understandinglife]

52. Kudos!! Hadn't seen your post.

I was looking at some stuff a friend sent me and saw the headgear and ... same response as yours.

As I've noted below, you can be sure the SS is communicating with him with the head gear his wearing and they would not allow anyone to walk behind the VP with a gun, as well.

So, if Whittington was "rejoining the party" the SS would have been informing the VeeP, "hey VeeP, dude with a gun is behind you rejoining the party" and I'd imagine an SS would have been escorting him until he was back on the line with Dickie boy and the girl(s) ....


Peace.

[LittleClarkie]

13. A bullet proof vest, perhaps?

Hmm?

[understandinglife]

2. Just sent it to Jane Hamsher ....

....

Think about it, everyone ... this is better than scrubbing the beer stuff from the MSNBC "report" ...


Peace.

[Straight Shooter]

3. Uh, that he's taken hunter safety courses and knows the protocol? n/t

[understandinglife]

6. Close. Just look at the picture and think about their story ....

:thumbsup:


Peace.

[oldtime dfl_er]

5. I'm dumb

I'm at a loss. Something about the headgear?

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/1207923

[understandinglife]

9. Bingo .... almost. Think about it and what they've been saying ...

:thumbsup:

And, you're far from "dumb" ...


Peace.

[daleo]

7. The ear protectors?

He couldn't have heard his victim even if he had "announced himself"?

[Straight Shooter]

12. Awesome conclusion. Was Cheney wearing ear protection, though? n/t

[understandinglife]

25. You betcha he was ....

Peace.

[txindy]

30. He does seem to hunt with them. From a previous hunt:

[understandinglife]

15. ROCK ON!!!! Exactly ... and that is a way bigger issue than MSNBC ...

... trying to scrub the "beer" quote ....

Way cool for you :toast:


Peace.

[TomInTib]

20. I have spent thousands of hours in the field and have never hunted

with a single hunter who wore muffs.

[txindy]

27. Darth uses them regularly, it would seem.

Can anyone hear through these? I was told in an earlier thread that they could.

[understandinglife]

31. Exactly, Exaclty. Exactly .... and the SS and his docs would ...

... likely insist that he does. Sudden, loud blasts from guns is not something you want to be experiencing if you've got an implanted defibrilator, let alone, a very fragile cardiovascular system.


Peace.

[TomInTib]

38. You can hear thru them if you are still, not winded, nothing else..

going on.

To hunt in a party of three shooters with these on would be preposterous.

Especially in dry S Texas.

I don't know why this did not occur to me before.

I kept thinking it strange, but not material.

[Webster Green]

10. Many layered clothing?

Perhaps?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

11. Cheney hunts with Kenny Rogers?

What?

I'm missing something, aren't I? :blush:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

33. How do you think he learned his rendition of

"Coward of the County?"

[Straight Shooter]

34. Yes, and he even wrote new lyrics for Kenny ...

"And if I could move, I'd get my gun and put him in the ground ..."

[TomInTib]

14. Man, that pic is weird. I don't know if that is a file pic or from the ..

actual Armstrong hunt.

WTF is with the muffs? Sure doesn't seem as if anyone is shooting.

If so, the shooter is in front of Cheney and he wouldn't need the muffs.

Maybe SkatterShot has sensitive ears.

Maybe he is just a weenie.

That is just looney.

[ClayZ]

16. He could not have heard someone shout "I am here"

[understandinglife]

19. EXACTLY. See # 15...

:toast:


Peace.

[ClayZ]

29. Their little "hunting protocol" BS does not add up!

"We let each other know where we are, but he didn't" BS

"he snuck up on me" BS

[understandinglife]

39. Yep. ALL of it is BS. And, now, we've caught them, once again, ...

... with one of those little details that amplifies their bullshit to a level that even the braindead might get.


Peace.

[VOX]

40. No, it's possible, IF he had electronic earmuffs...

Silencio React Electronic Ear Muffs
Combining the hearing protection and enhancement of electronic muffs and the power of an AM/FM stereo headset, the Silencio React lets you choose whether you want to listen intently on your surroundings or take in the game that always has to start right when you're getting into the woods. A rechargeable ni-mh battery (included) gives up to 50 hours of continuous use on one charge. And for simple one-handed operation, one knob controls power, volume, frequency, active listening/radio mix, bass/treble and AM/FM band selection. The selector control also enables you to choose between active listening, radio, or both. A multi-function power inlet accepts input from communication radios and portable audio devices. It also has auto-seek and manual tuning functions. A 110-volt charger is included.

[understandinglife]

46. See # 43. And, everyone, remember Cheney's got an implanted ...

... defibrilator. He is being protected from anything that might "startle" him ... and the SS likely can communicate with him, in normal voice, if he's wearing the type of head gear he most likely was wearing.

So, if Armstrong was approaching Cheney from behind the SS would say, Mr. Vice President, a member of your party is behind you. And, he would not have swung and shot the guy.

And, you can be certain the SS was not going to allow ANYONE to walk behind the Vice President of the USA with a gun, no matter who that person happens to be.

So, even if Cheney is wearing the super-dupper-james-bond head gear to protect him from being startled by other folk guns being discharged, he's also not going to have to have some guy screaming "hey dick I'm behind you buddie."


Peace.

[jobycom]

50. That's a lot of assumptions based on one picture

You assume he was wearing the headset, you assume the SS was behind him telling him where everyone is, you assume the SS would not let a friend they had previously cleared walk behind him with a gun (and as I understand the story, Whittington had walked back to the line from behind Cheney, which is different than walking up behind him).

I think Cheney is lying, too, but no one's going to see any of this as proving anything.

As for the "super duper james bond" headgear, a basic set of earmuffs costs 60 bucks. I'm sure Cheney has a better pair than the basic ones.

[understandinglife]

53. Whatever ...

I'm sure you know way more about SS protocol and implanted defibrilators than I do....


Peace.

[LSK]

18. ok, i dont get it

I never hunted, fired a gun or even HEARD a gun in my life. How about some help here?????????????

[meisje]

22. Cheney secretly wants to become a D.J. in a Euro-Trash nightclub

[WinkyDink]

23. The shades. The shooting was supposed to have been at dusk.

Correct?

[Swamp Rat]

24. What does THIS picture of Cheney tell you?

:D

[understandinglife]

28. When I stop ROFLMAO ... I'll tell you!!!!

:rofl:

You are soooooooooooooooo good, SR!!! :toast:


Peace.

[Straight Shooter]

32. Swamp Rat, you make such killer parodies!

:rofl:

[ClayZ]

36. Swamp Rat! That is ASTOUNDINGLY GOOD!

You are a genius! You get the blue ribbon!

[upi402]

45. THERE IT IS!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Twist_U_Up]

51. hahahahahahaha Swamp Rat Strikes Again

hilarious

[EstimatedProphet]

26. The thing is, he shouldn't have had to hear Whittington

Whittington should not have had to announce himself or be shot. He should have been in the open, because the area was open.

Here's what I mean:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=436805&mesg_id=436805

[understandinglife]

35. Well, of course. And those of us who know the rules and always ...

... would operate by them, agree.

But, THAT'S NOT THEIR STORY, and the hearing protectors/sound suppressors turns THEIR STORY into the bullshit spin we all expect from them, all the time.

Now, they can't escape the fact that we've, once again, caught them on a little detail that demonstrates their bullshit to anyone with a brain.


Peace.

[FreedomAngel82]

41. And also something else

I'm listening to Stephanie Miller's show from Tuesday during commercials of Malloy's and I believe it was here someone told how hunters usually hunt together in a line so you can see everybody and you're to never shoot your gun without knowing what you're shooting at.

[VOX]

37. Some electronic earmuffs kick in only when noise exceeds 85 dB...

So a speaking voice, for instance, can be heard. But when the trigger is pulled, the hearing protection kicks in. Google: Silencio React Electronic Ear Muffs, for example. If Cheney is packing a $15,000+ shotgun, he probably has big-money ear protection, also. Just a guess.

But that's no excuse if he's got a skinfull of booze, shooting in the twilight, ignoring the basic rules of shooting, etc. :grr:

On edit:
What the picture does show is that, this time of year, shooters obviously wear heavy jackets -- jackets and overclothing that would stop spreading birdshot pellets at the reported 30 yards.

[EstimatedProphet]

42. Exactly

I would bet Cheney would have those. They're expensive and fancy.

[understandinglife]

43. I thought of that and the reason it falls apart is they are claiming ...

... the guy was at least 30 YARDS from Cheney when he was hit. The guy would have had to be screaming for Cheney to hear him, even with fancy head gear. In Cheney's case, with implanted defib, what they most likely want to protect him from is any sudden loud sound -- like someone coming up from behind him, more than 30 yards behind him, trying to be heard.

Sotto voce "oh dickie boy i'm back here with my gun coming up behind you" wouldn't work especially if Dick was wearing the type of head gear you describe. And, I have a hard time thinking the SS would let anyone with a shotgun approach the VP from behind, anyway .... ya' know ...

And, if the guy screamed "DICK IT'S ME", the head gear probably would have suppressed it, fancy or not.


Peace.

[jobycom]

48. That makes no sense

It doesn't measure the DBs at the source, but at the earmuffs, and 85 is pretty loud.

[understandinglife]

49. Yes, it makes sense.

Someone, like the SS speaking to the VP saying, someone is approaching you from the rear doesn't need to speak anywhere near 85 DB to be heard.

And, you can bet a bunch of your life savings that one of the reasons he has them on is so that the SS can communicate with him while, at the same time, keeping him insulated from sudden, random, loud bursts of gun fire.

Now, imagine you are someone talking in a normal tone of voice 90 feet from someone else, that's way less than 85 DB by the time it gets to the VP ears with that gear on. So, way less, that unless the head gear somehow selectively amplifies it, he's not going to hear it.

Stand 90 feet from someone and say in a normal voice "I'm back here" with them not facing you and see if they turn around.


Peace.

[jobycom]

44. Thanks. That's what I was going to post. Here's a link:

http://www.bizrate.com/buy/noncat_prod_details__oid--392865873.html

Product Details: Muff out the noise of gunshots while listening to normal conversation and range commands. The Caldwell E-85 earmuffs block out noises above 85 dB while amplifying normal sounds and voices. Perfect for all your shooting needs, and inexpensive enough...

[understandinglife]

47. See # 43 and # 46.

Peace.

[eugene5debs]

54. Deadeye Dick

There is a transcript of Cheney and Whittington talking during the hunt, to be found here:

http://www.staggeron.org/tattlebytes.html#deadeye_dick

[tirechewer]

55. His ears are covered.....

He is wearing what looks like ear protectors. How could he have heard anyone coming up behind him, or even calling out? Those things really, really muffle sound.

He has admitted to having "one" beer with his lunch. If he admits to one, there was probably a lot more alcohol consumption than he is willing to own up to.

So if you have your hearing occluded and you are two sheets to the wind how can you hear what you are aiming at, and how good are your reflexes to begin with?

[lovuian]

56. A hunter with ear muffs

[DemReadingDU]

57. K&R

[Jacobin]

58. There is a problem with your theory

I've worn ear protecters like that when shooting. You can hear normal conversation when you are wearing them, but they have an electronic device that blocks loud noises such as gunfire.

Plus, it doesn't matter at all. There IS NO PROTOCOL for a hunter to 'announce where he is'. That is total made up bullshit by Armstrong to try to get Unka Dick out of the trap.

It is the hunter's SOLE RESPONSIBILITY NOT TO SHOOT unless it is safe to do so. If he fucks up and shoots someone, IT IS HIS FAULT. End of Story. NO qualifications. It has been so since the beginning and ever shall be.

Why go into this claptrap to get around a bogus Armstrong theory that someone hunting is supposed to 'announce' himself anyway?

:crazy:

[daleo]

59. It is just evidence that Cheney is lying in his story

That's no surprise to people here, though.

[Ganja Ninja]

60. He's not hunting in this photo. He's at a gun range.

Ear protection is required. Note the safety glasses he's wearing too.