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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:39 AM
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Did Cheney Relapse? Did he ever work the AA Steps?
The story is out that he had one beer the day of his shooting the man in the face and chest. Now, I believe Cheney has had a documented 2-3 DUI's in his past which is enough to send one to a 12 Step AA Program. Yet he apparently never found sobriety. This may explain his acute cardiac condition for an man of his age. This meaning, the secondary health consequences of alcohol abuse.....

The disease of alcoholism is chronic and progressive, meaning it would take much less to cause a black out in this latent stage of his disease. So, was Cheney in a blackout fugh?

I just want to open the discussion here on his disease of alcoholism. It appears our country is being run by bunch of soughts!

What say you?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:44 AM
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1. I say it's spelled "sots"
:) and it's very likely, especially if Lynn keeps him away from the booze at home, when he's out of her reach, he drinks.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:46 AM
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2. He had his first heart attack at 37
That's kind of incomprehensible to me. After a series of heart attacks and conditions, he decided to start exercising in 2000! If that doesn't tell you the guy's an idiot nothing will.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:48 AM
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3. Here is what I believe:
He didn't have "one beer"...he lies about everything so this only tells us that he had alcohol, but who knows how much. They wouldn't have waited all that time to report if alcohol had not been involved.

Do you really think anyone in this administration has to follow any rules or laws? The 12 Step program is for poor schmucks who are ordinary citizens.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:54 AM
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4. Now we know what dimson and Cheney have in common. nt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:57 AM
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5. At the time
he picked up two DWI convictions in less than a year, there was not the legal consequences requiring treatment that there are today. He simply had his license suspended.

In the years since, he has been in a social position where there are not going to be tickets, unless he were to seriously injure someone.
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:57 AM
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6. AA is a program of honesty
he would not fit in
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:34 AM
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12. If we want to look at the big picture......
We are all co-dependents instead of American citizens. The 2 most powerful leaders of the free world are full blown active drunks. The media has never addressed this issue professionally. This would be a REAL issue for Dr. Phil.....

Is this what the AA people mean by there being a "pink elephant" lying on the living room floor????? They must of known that the drunks leaders were going to be republican! :rofl:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:01 AM
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7. He admits to have been drinking.
The only contention here is "how much".

As somebody who lived in the tavern industry for 20 years (it was the family biz) I can testify to you that I never knew a reformed alcoholic who could then drink "one" beer.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:19 AM
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11. At this stage of his suspected alcoholism,
one would not need to drink 2/6-packs to get drunk but only 1 or 2 beers or by the second liquor beverage such as scotch to be in a black out. Metabolically, the body has lost it's capability to detoxify efficiently.

The fact that Cheney had his DUI's prior to Court Ordered Rehab does not exclude him from having the need for recovery.....The family and his treating physician could recognize that drinking even 1-2 drinks today, post cardiac consequences that he is an alcoholic and can not drink ever.

I hope the media picks up on this.....I can see Lynn being the "proctector" and keeping him away from booze while within her reach....

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:04 AM
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8. Like Smirk, he is a drunk - not a recovering one, but
a current one. Of course * also uses cocaine, but the fact is that both are shit-faced a good percentage of the time, and the media won't say so. They prefer to "believe", or at least propagate, stories about pretzels and "too slow hearbeat because he's in such good shape" and other lies that the Limbeciles will believe.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:07 AM
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9. what I find inter sting about your assessment
I have heard he was rather personal when he was younger(although I think a rat basted) for instance the subject of cutting defense in the 90's,saying that not going into Bagdad in the 90's was the right thing to do and so on were reasonable decisions.

The acute paranoia is defiantly a sign of late stages of alcoholism, never mind all the health problems.

I think the man was always a bit psychotic, what the alcohol could do is exaggerate these flaws to the point of no return.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:14 AM
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10. Yes and no. nt
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