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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:35 AM
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What's all this ruckus about Al Gore?
I don't know the specifics, but I heard a passing reference on CSpan by some nutjob to him being a "traitor".

Anyone know?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:40 AM
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1. He shot some 78-year-old in the face.
No...wait. That was Cheney.

Never mind. Gore is not a traitor.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:40 AM
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2. The One About Making A Speech In The 'Enemies Area'?
"Apparently the former Vice-President, Al Gore, went to Saudi Arabia, and made some sort of a speech, saying that here in America, while we are at war, we are discriminating against Muslims. That some how we're going after them. I think that's literally despicable in a time of war. I think there should be an investigation by the news corps, about who paid for his trip, who paid for his speech, and what exactly he said, and how in the heck somebody, who has still got secret clearance, and is still receiving protection from the United States government, is doing such a thing. I mean, we are still paying Secret Service men to protect the man, and he is going overseas, saying this in a time of war, going to the enemy's area."

So, it appears we are now at war with Saudi Arabia. Or is it the entire Muslim population. Or all brown people in general. Hard to keep track anymore.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:46 AM
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6. Similar LTTE in my local paper this morning.
"Fanning the flames of hatred for America" I think was the key phrase, and saying how this was a much bigger story than the Cheney shooting.

I swear these knuckledraggers think everyone in the ME lives in a tent with no access to the news and if we just stop talking about US transgressions the Ay-Rabs will never know.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:00 AM
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9. This Shows The Importance Of Our Brothers And Sisters Who Monitor
the so called 'MSM' sources, and the blatantly Reich-Wing propaganda outlets, at the peril of their own mental health.

We need to know what the current subject of the 'Two Minute Hate' is so the appropriate truth countermeasure can be deployed.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:58 AM
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8. Well, besides all the rest idiotic statements in this quote,
Gore no longer gets SS protection. As a matter of fact, I have a friend that worked Security for the Bon Jovi concert here in Nashville who was complaining that because Gore went to the concert, they had to do "double-duty" and protect Gore, too, because he does NOT get SS protection any more.

She also mentioned that it was difficult because Gore was literally SWAMPED with fans.......

I still was surprised to hear that Gore was at a Bon Jovi concert.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:42 AM
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3. He made a speech in Saudi Arabia noting how badly US Arab population was
being treated in general.

Funny thing is - that is how Bush won the Arab vote in 2000, using that exact same reason when it WASN'T TRUE. Now it is demonstrably true, and Gore gets called out on it?????
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:42 AM
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4. It turns out he's been doing business with the Saudis for decades..
AND he let the Bin Laden family skip town after 9/11 AND he had dinner with a member of the Royal family in the Whit House 2 days after 9/11...


oh wait...that was someone else

never mind
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:45 AM
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5. I Think It Relates To The Following
Gore decries treatment of Arabs post 9-11

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2461405#2461458

Obviously, this issue is the focus of the Reich-Wing 'Hate Of The Day'.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:55 AM
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7. Gore Decries Treatment Of Arabs Post 9-11
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1107AP_Saudi_Gore.html

Former Vice President Al Gore told a mainly Saudi audience on Sunday that the U.S. government committed "terrible abuses" against Arabs after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and that most Americans did not support such treatment. Gore said Arabs had been "indiscriminately rounded up" and held in "unforgivable" conditions. The former vice president said the Bush administration was playing into al-Qaida's hands by routinely blocking Saudi visa applications. "The thoughtless way in which visas are now handled, that is a mistake," Gore said during the Jiddah Economic Forum. "The worst thing we can possibly do is to cut off the channels of friendship and mutual understanding between Saudi Arabia and the United States."

. . .

Gore told the largely Saudi audience, many of them educated at U.S. universities, that Arabs in the United States had been "indiscriminately rounded up, often on minor charges of overstaying a visa or not having a green card in proper order, and held in conditions that were just unforgivable." "Unfortunately there have been terrible abuses and it's wrong," Gore said. "I do want you to know that it does not represent the desires or wishes or feelings of the majority of the citizens of my country."

On Iran, Gore complained of "endemic hyper-corruption" among Tehran's religious and political elite and asked Arabs to take a stand against Iran's nuclear program. Iran says its program is for peaceful purposes but the United States and other Western countries suspect Tehran is trying to develop nuclear weapons. "Is it only for the West to say this is dangerous?" Gore asked. "We should have more people in this region saying this is dangerous."


Several audience members criticized the United States for what they described as "unconditional" U.S. support for Israel, saying U.S. diplomats helped Israel flout U.N. resolutions that they enforced when the measures targeted Arabs. Gore refused to be drawn into questions about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. "We can't solve that long conflict in exchanges here," Gore said.

. . .

Also at the forum, the vice chairman of Chevron Corp., Peter Robertson, . . .

. . .

Cherie Blair, wife of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, made a plea at the forum . . .

. . .

Irish President Mary McAleese urged . . .



God forbid someone reach out and try to establish a dialog.

Speaking in 'enemy territory'. Traitors all.

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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:07 AM
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10. Al Gore probably shot the guy
And...being the kind of patriot Cheney is, he decided to take the blame. Tipper saw it all.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:45 AM
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11. The political status of Arab-Americans
I agree with Gore that there's been discrimination here, and he's certainly right to point it out.... even during "wartime". To put it in perspective, though, Arabs in the U.S. have more political freedom than Arabs in any Arab country.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 05:42 PM
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12. I am listening to cspan wj from today and was wondering what
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 05:45 PM by cat_girl25
the whining was about. I guess Rush Lardbutt gave them their talking point orders.
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