Looking for a theory... why would the Neocons want MidEast unrest?

[sabra]

First we had the Danish cartoon controversy. Which was revealed that the cartoons were actually published in September. Next, the release of video showing British soldiers beating four Iraq's youths in Basra. Now, new Abu Ghraib pictures.

Who's the leaker?

Is it just a coincidence, or there's more to this story?

[HereSince1628]

1. Chaos in the enemies' societies makes them vulnerable.

The expectations for greater greatness of two non-muslim nations involved in the region is more or less depending on that.

Somewhere back in 2002 Bush said his mission was to create chaos. I wish I could find the quote.

[Webster Green]

3. Yes, the neo-cons thrive on chaos and secrecy.

Dark, evil predators that they are.

[Burried News]

2. If I were sitting on the huge Russian Oil supply I wouldn't mind.

[havocmom]

4. War = Profits for their patrons. Their policies/behavior guarantee war.

And as a side benefit, people let them usurp more domestic power and misplace billions of dollar$ in war-torn areas.

Follow the money.

[BlueEyedSon]

5. Better opportunities for EXCESS PROFITS in chaos.

[WinkyDink]

15. I agree. But WTH do they DO with their loot??

I mean, how much caviar and wine can one consume? I don't see the Cheneys on a super-yacht, with a Venetian palazzo, and wearing diamonds like Elizabeth Taylor!
WHAT DO THEY SPEND IT ON????
(By which I mean, of course, WHY do they "NEED" MORE??)

[converted_democrat]

6. If there is total chaos in the Middle East, than they have an excuse

to go in and clamp down on the whole area..( This is all my own speculation and I "know" nothing, this is just what I think..) They want to control that oil.. All they will have to say is look at this mess.. Do you want these people in charge of the life blood of this country? If we can't get oil we can't run this country, do you people want these unstable people to control that?? Then Americans will say yes yes save us.. They go in at that point under the pretense of securing the oil, and actually secure it for themselves on the American dime.. They then control all, including us...

on edit- I think this also explains why almost every area that has oil is now being accused of terror ties.. Venezuela is next (after Iran..) They will go and get a handle on all the major oil producing areas, and then they will control all..

[sabra]

7. thanks all for the responses... aligns with what I was thinking too.

[lectrobyte]

8. Basically, divide and conquer. If, for example, Iraq is in the midst

of a huge civil war, it is much harder to remove American military or other "peace keepers."

[Wind Dancer]

9. It's been the plan all along.

The PNAC needs this to complete the mission.

Read this article from The Guardian:

THE LONG WAR

-snip-

Looking beyond the Iraq and Afghan battlefields, US commanders envisage a war unlimited in time and space against global Islamist extremism. "The struggle ... may well be fought in dozens of other countries simultaneously and for many years to come," the report says. The emphasis switches from large-scale, conventional military operations, such as the 2003 invasion of Iraq, towards a rapid deployment of highly mobile, often covert, counter-terrorist forces.

Among specific measures proposed are: an increase in special operations forces by 15%; an extra 3,700 personnel in psychological operations and civil affairs units - an increase of 33%; nearly double the number of unmanned aerial drones; the conversion of submarine-launched Trident nuclear missiles for use in conventional strikes; new close-to-shore, high-speed naval capabilities; special teams trained to detect and render safe nuclear weapons quickly anywhere in the world; and a new long-range bomber force.

The Pentagon does not pinpoint the countries it sees as future areas of operations but they will stretch beyond the Middle East to the Horn of Africa, north Africa, central and south-east Asia and the northern Caucasus.

The cold war dominated the world from 1946 to 1991: the long war could determine the shape of the world for decades to come. The plan rests heavily on a much higher level of cooperation and integration with Britain and other Nato allies, and the increased recruitment of regional governments through the use of economic, political, military and security means. It calls on allies to build their capacity "to share the risks and responsibilities of today's complex challenges".

more

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1710062,00.html

[Stephanie]

10. Iran is Next

They need to stir up the hornets nest and launch a new product.

[bloom]

11. They've been beating the drum about Iran

and Syria for some time. A lot of people think they want action by the end of March.

I truly think that they are doing whatever they can to get Muslims/Arabs to riot - so that they (The Muslims/Arabs) can look like the "bad guys" and the US/UK forces can pretend to be "reasonable" (?).

I'm not sure how the US/UK forces can think they look reasonable in light of the videos/photos - but I can't think of think of any other explanation for all of this. And while the US gov't says that they didn't want the photos released - that they condemn the cartoons - I think that they were behind all of it - on some level - and they are just trying to have the appearance that they are above the fray.

[Tesha]

12. "Permawar" distracts us from what they're really doing.

"Permawar" distracts us from what they're really doing.

And siting the permawar in the Middle East keeps the American religious
whackos toeing the NeoCon line.

Tesha

[Strelnikov_]

13. It's About Oil

http://www.amymartin.org/ts_music/preview/Its%20About%20Oil.mp3

[rman]

14. As an excuse for more war in the most oil rich region in the world.

[stop the bleeding]

16. Michael Ledeen will give you all of the theory that you need in regards to

the Neocon/PNAC network for taking over the ME and then the world.

[stillrockin]

17. Divide and conquer: easier for

war profiteering. It always comes back to money.

[Roland99]

18. There are multiple aspects but it boils down to their ideology.

The neocons are students of Leo Strauss (and many of the key ones worked in Henry "Scoop" Jackson's office. They truly, truly believe in their ideology that a nationalistic state will form a better and more moral society. They created "evil" in the world (Soviet build up of nuclear weapons, Soviets behind terror attacks, and now "Al Qaeda") in order to give the American public a target of fear and to help them corral the masses into following and supporting their ideology.

The BBC documentary The Power of Nightmares gives an excellent insight into the rise of the neocons (as well as the Islamists).

I summarize the documentary here:

http://www.conjur.com/blog/2006/02/14/so-what-do-we-know-about-the-neoconservative-movement/


Video of the documentary:
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares

[theophilus]

19. My theory was supported by none other than Pat Buchanon and

Tony Blankley on McLaughlin. They agreed that the "plan" of the NeoCons was to destabilize and deconstruct the Middle East and then put it back together with governments that "support" the U.S. One went so far as to say that was not a good idea. I believe it, though. This meme of democracy being spewed by Spurious George is true, up to a point. They will bomb and kill until they have superficial democracies in power. They can be bribed. Oil can be controlled, etc. It is harder to get a Saddam to act against his own best interests, imo. Members of an elected government can be bribed and kept in power as long as they favor "the American Way (of Life). Those not amenable to American pressure can be defeated by lies and an inflow of cash. Hey, it works here in the greatest democracy, doesn't it?

The problem, for the world, is that these powermad goofs will not be able to control the situation. Just look at Iraq as an example. If they proceed it will get much, much worse. They are patient, however, and might wait to proceed until after 2008. If they succeed in getting back into power, all bets are off. If a Dem gets in that will buck their trend, he/she will be destroyed by various means and 2012 will be the next opportunity, etc. I hope I'm wrong.

[Roland99]

20. David Brock admitted they created lies about Clinton to bring him down