House in uproar!! PELOSI CALLS FOR INVESTIGATION...

[Viva_La_Revolution]

notes in a second - CSPAN NOW

On edit:


ammendment to the desk

whereas the repug. leadership votes in the middle of the night

medicare program

leadership with-holds information

ignores notification

budget reconcilliation, mistake not acnowledged, passed anyway

serious constitutional questions

questions of legallity passing bill house did not pass

May we have order!

ongoing abuse of power

inserted without knowledge avian flu vaccine

inserted at midnight after final vote 7 hours earlier

prescription bill, ignored info that cost was 100's of billions more than estimate

passed in middle of the night

inserted handwritten bills

Investigation to begin immediately by committee

Table resolution - Recorded Vote ordered!!!!

[Thtwudbeme]

1. an investigation into what?

I mean, shit the list is endless

[Nimrod2005]

6. I am thinking someone should investigate to see if AMERICANS

are alive at all? If anyone cares...?

[Roland99]

8. No kidding. Apathy is allowing these bastards to destroy America

[RazzleDazzle]

30. You can't get excited and upset about shit you don't know about

please look to the media before you go blaming all of America

[Roland99]

33. Americans can demand better but they, generally, don't care

The malaise is the virus.

The complacency with the SUV, rented DVDs, and delivered pizza.


Consume, consume, consume and ignore the community, focus on the self.

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. I believe the word you're looking for is phlegmatic.

[AuntiBush]

26. Really!

Motion to reconcile is laid on the table.

Democrat asking for recognition Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland
He's congratulating the House Majority leader. That's it. I can't take no more.

[bluerum]

2. Yes yes and yes.

I am assuming this is in relation to NSA and domestic spying.

:applause: :popcorn:

on edit: So - congress ignored their own voting rules? She is calling the congress on the way they have repeatedly broken house rules.

Do house rules constitute law ? Are the house rules legally enforceable? Or is this intended to be a way to expose the way the rupugs have turned the congressional process (and country) over to corporate entities?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

11. nope - inserting text into legislation, voting in the middle of the night

etc.

specifically on the Medicare bill and the Budget resolution

[AuntiBush]

27. A disgrace

The elderly, disabled, and poor are doomed. How many more will be without health care before the year is up?

[nickinSTL]

3. uh, could you be a bit more...specific?

uproar? investigation?

Into what?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

7. ack!! typing as fast as I can!

Pelosi calls for investigation into Repugs changing bills and witholding important info.

Voting on a motion to table the resolution (kill it)

[EFerrari]

19. Viva -- this echos what Russ was saying on the Senate floor

does it not? :hi:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

23. it does.

nice to see them workin some statergy! :hi:

[AuntiBush]

29. Example

How the Repubs keep voting late in the night when Dems are not there to debate or vote. Or handing them massive piles of bills w/barely any time to even read the bills, then out to the floor to vote on them.

Medicare, now Pension bill reform = more losses and protection for big-corps.

[berni_mccoy]

4. SHUT IT DOWN!

[janx]

5. It looks as if this is another typical vote...

GOP voting to table, yes?

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. With FOUR Dems voting "present"

Oops! Make that Five!

:grr:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

13. yes

we don't need no stinkin investigations! :sarcasm:

:mad:

[Jane Austin]

10. What the heck is this thread about?

Do we have to be at home with cable TV to understand this?

Thanks.


(Edit to insert a letter. Dog jumped on computer and KO'ed my "W" key.)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

14. more info added up-thread

there should be a press conference after the motion to table the resolution passes.

Basically, Pelosi calls for investigation into Repug tactics and they say no.
it will fail, everyone will vote along party lines, democracy will die a little more.

[nickinSTL]

16. Looks to me that Pelosi has called for an investigation

on the Repubs' tactics in the House. Calling for votes on bills in the middle of the night, and other tactics designed to prevent the Dems from mounting opposition.

[eppur_se_muova]

41. LOL! He got the right letter, anyway!

The instincts of animals, always amazing...

[AuntiBush]

15. Votes on Motion to Kill Pelosi's Resolution

210 YEA w/21 NV REPUBLICANS
177 NAY, 1 INDEPENDENT w/ 6 PRES no vote and 19 NY

11:49 AM EST

[AuntiBush]

24. Update

219 YE6 REPUBLICAN - 12 NV

186 NAY DEMOCRATIC 6 PRES -90 NV

1 from the dear Independent for NAY.

Tally Update: 219 YEA w/every Republican voting in lockstep
187 Nay Democrats w/1 Indepenent

[ooglymoogly]

34. who were the dems who voted present!!!!!!!!!!

[The Witch]

17. what's up? what's up??? can you edit post to make more sense?

Please?

[EFerrari]

22. Nancy offered a motion to investigate GOP skulldruggery

re legislative rules of the House. The Thugs are killing it right now but she got to sing first anyway.

[Pirate Smile]

18. Where are the rest of the Dems? If everyone was there we would

be ahead - with less then 5 minutes - 207 Repubs vote yes to table; 176 Dems vote no to table and 6 vote present plus Sanders votes no.

Where the hell is everybody else?

Well, now the Repubs are up to 214 - If they get to 216, it's over.

[bleedingheart]

20. the PA legislature has a bunch of repukes who love to pass

legislation in the middle of the night...seems the repukes at the federal level like doing it too..

[carolinalady]

21. What was the point? Repukes have majority

[Sydnie]

25. to get it into the record that they tried and were met

with "obstructionist" republicans.

[yodermon]

28. it's called

"being an opposition party".
Very nice tactic by Pelosi.
We need more of this.

[AbbyR]

31. I wish they would do it every day

That way they would at least get it on record.

[kaygore]

32. Has the Democratic leadership finally gown a spine?

This stuff has been going on since the first day that Bush took office. If they are going to call the Republicans out now, they need to keep up the pressure. The Democratic leadership reminds me of parents who discipline their children and then don't follow through. The result is that the children (the Republicans) know that they can get away with anything--and they do!

[hvn_nbr_2]

36. Grown a spine? Hope so and doubt it. Another fleeting moment of spine.

I'm tempted to ask, Is this finally it? What we've been waiting for? How often have we asked these questions and been disappointed? Unfortunately, these moments of spine seem always to be fleeting. If they maintain it for a week, I might start to get my hopes up.

[kaygore]

38. I been there before, too!

[sandnsea]

40. How many years does it take a spine to grow???

I've been hearing "finally grown a spine" for a couple years now. How many times do they have to beat down the Republicans before people stop with the idiotic quest for spine and balls.

[ClosetClarkie]

35. Nancy should have used her outrage to organize the dems

against the next war in Iran. Instead she is going along with the whole lie that Iran is a threat...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2113015

[pberq]

39. Yes - the war against Iran has started

As reported elsewhere on DU, the outing of Plame was part of the plan to gin up a war on Iran.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Outed_CIA_officer_was_working_on_0213.html

Outed CIA officer was working on Iran, intelligence sources say

Larisa Alexandrovna
Published: February 13, 2006

The unmasking of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson by White House officials in 2003 caused significant damage to U.S. national security and its ability to counter nuclear proliferation abroad, RAW STORY has learned.

According to current and former intelligence officials, Plame Wilson, who worked on the clandestine side of the CIA in the Directorate of Operations as a non-official cover (NOC) officer, was part of an operation tracking distribution and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction technology to and from Iran.

Speaking under strict confidentiality, intelligence officials revealed heretofore unreported elements of Plame's work. Their accounts suggest that Plame's outing was more serious than has previously been reported and carries grave implications for U.S. national security and its ability to monitor Iran's burgeoning nuclear program. . .


Here's another angle from Rawstory, also related to Plame's outing (which is explained in the article quoted below this one):

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Backchannels_used_to_bypass_U.S._government_0111.html

Spurious attempt to tie Iran, Iraq to nuclear arms plot bypassed U.S. intelligence channels

Larisa Alexandrovna
Published: January 11, 2006

Update: Retired Paris CIA station chief Bill Murray confirms and corrects.

Several U.S. and foreign intelligence sources, along with investigators, say an Iranian exile with ties to Iran-Contra peddled a bizarre tale of stolen uranium to governments on both sides of the Atlantic in the spring and summer of 2003.

The story that was peddled -- which detailed how an Iranian intelligence team infiltrated Iraq prior to the start of the war in March of 2003, and stole enriched uranium to use in their own nuclear weapons program -- was part of an attempt to implicate both countries in a WMD plot. It later emerged that the Iranian exile was trying to collect money for his tales, sources say.



http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=8548

. . .The exposure of Plame and her entire operation – Brewster Jennings & Associates, the CIA front company that cloaked this super-secret tracking program – effectively blinded the U.S. to the evolution of Iran's nuclear program. Not long after the outing of Plame – and just after a grand jury began hearing testimony in the Fitzgerald investigation – another security breach involving Iran made headlines: the Iranians had been alerted to the fact that the U.S. had broken the code governing their internal government communications, with the chief suspects being the neoconservative version of Che Guevara, Ahmed Chalabi, and his Iraqi National Congress, the source of much of the phony pre-invasion "intelligence" about Iraq. The truth about Iran's WMD (or lack of same) was rendered inaccessible, leaving the field open for the neocons and their foreign operatives to move into the vacuum and keep their very effective lie factory working overtime.

A familiar cast of characters stars in this tale of intrigue and disinformation: Manucher Ghorbanifar, the Iranian arms merchant and master of deception, who, along with neoconservative guru Michael Ledeen – another player in this drama – was entangled in the Iran-Contra affair. Larry Franklin makes a guest appearance at a meeting in Rome where the plot was reportedly hatched. Oh, and a mysterious Iranian named "Ali," who, it turns out, is the pseudonym for Fereidoun Mahdavi, a former minister under the Shah, now a secretary to Ghorbanifar.

It would have been Plame's job to debunk Ali's tall tales. Knocking her and Brewster Jennings out of the running was necessarily a top priority for those with an interest in targeting Iran. There is a lot more here than has come to the attention of the "mainstream" media, and, again, Alexandrovna is digging where others fear to tread.

All indications are that an active campaign to set up Iran for attack was going full gear even as George W. Bush was declaring "mission accomplished" in Iraq. As we look at the different pieces of the puzzle, a definite picture begins to emerge: what we are seeing are the outlines of a coordinated covert action, engineered by neoconservative ideologues in and around the Pentagon and Dick Cheney's office, and carried out in cooperation with the Israelis. Their objective: gin up a war with Iran, even as we marched into Iraq. A one-two punch that will speed the forces of "democratization" and visit upon the region what Ledeen lauds as "creative destruction."

[yellowdogmi]

37. Nancy is awesome.

Finally a dem that understands leading by example. Not to leave out Russ and the others with a spine. Just proud of her and thankful for this stand she has taken. Unfortunately with the lapdog press it will probably barely be covered.