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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:15 PM
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"I'd rather go hunting with Dick than go on a ride with Ted."
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 02:17 PM by enid602
New RW bumper sticker referred to on a local TV station here in Phoenix. Clever, but misses a few points:
1 Ted Kennedy was not Vice President of the US
2 Chappaquiddick took place 35 years ago. Do the Republicans have to go that far back to find fault in us?
3 Ted Kennedy has spent 35 years representing the poor and all of us.
4 RW-ers made such a HUGE deal of Chappaquidick. By making the comparison, are they inviting us to give Cheneyquiddick the same treatment?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:17 PM
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1. A brief quibble.
Your first point is not going to get it done. TK was a senator with Presidential ambitions.

2 & 3 are excllent points.

#4 is likely with or without our help.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:18 PM
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2. I'd rather go for a ride with Ted....
Cause while I CAN swim,I suspect performing trauma surgery on myself would suck....
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:18 PM
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3. Let them play hardball...
people get in car accidents all the time...it's not like you shoot your friends in the face every day. But seriously it happened 35 friggen years ago, the best ammo they got is that and Clinton getting a blow job. Really they shouldn't have much of a leg to stand on in the scandal department considering they break the law on an almost hourly basis
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:33 PM
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32. It really points to their complete lack of character and values
THEY can break any law there is. If we make a mistake, it has to be used to beat us over the head with forever.

These people are evil.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:18 PM
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4. I would NOT have wanted to go on a ride with Dick
when he was busy racking up DUIs.
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:19 PM
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5. I am no pup and Chappaquidick happened before I was
born. They will probably start next with Andrew Jackson killing the Indians!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:19 PM
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6. Ahhhh, the old 'two wrongs make a right' argument!!!!
Well, I would guess a lot of gals would rather be shot by Clinton than by Cheney, using that logic!!!

A drycleaning bill is far cheaper than a stay in ICU, even with good insurance!!! To say nothing of having a permanent remembrance of the event embedded in the tissue of your heart!

Childish bastards---all ya can do is "consider the source!"
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:19 PM
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7. Chappaquidick cost Kennedy a spot on any presidential ticket
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 02:20 PM by DBoon
Post-Chappaquidick, no Democratic ticket could afford to have Kennedy. The liability was just too great to have this otherwise excellent person running for national office.

Should Cheney then resign? He is now (at least) equally unqualified for national office.

On Edit: Assuming he is otherwise qualified to hold any office, gun incident or not
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:20 PM
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9. Cheney
What should this cost Cheney?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 04:51 PM
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54. He should resign
If kennedy is forever denied a spot on a ticket for his lapse, then cheney should resign for his.

what's fair for one is fair for the other, right?
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:21 PM
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11. There you go again using your noggin!
Keep it up and the Miniplenty is liable to reduce the chocolate ration again. I am NOT allowing you to be responsible for affecting my chocolate ration!!!
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:29 PM
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23. This is the dumbest political comparison
Because Chappaquidick was a HUGE political scandal. It cost Ted Kennedy any chance of ever becoming President. Do Republicans really want to compare this with Chappaquidick?

Because the similarities are striking.

Both were probably drinking. (In Cheney's case mixed with heart medicine).

Both failed to report the accident for many hours.

Mary Jo died, and Harry may die, as a result of reckless behavior.

I say, if the repukes want to bring up Chappaquidick, let them. Our next response should be: why was Chappaquidick such a huge scandal and this one isn't?

Questions that need to be asked:

What kind of Heart medication is Dick Cheney on?

How many drinks did Cheney actually have on this day?

What are the results of mixing alcohol and the medication?

Is it legal for anyone to use a firearm having mixed alcohol and medication?

The Chappaquidick thing brings a whole new dimension to this story!!!!!!

P.S. The truth is I was going to come here and make a comparison about the two. But the dumbass Republicans beat me to it.

File this under: Republicans in meltdown mode.
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ChipsAhoy Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:20 PM
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8. Why did they even bring Senator Kennedy up in this?
I love your number 2. Fantastic point!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:21 PM
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10. "I'd rather ride with Ted than ride with Laura or Dick OR hunt with Dick"
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:23 PM
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18. Pickles
Ahhh, the prom night vehicular manslaughter game. My favorite.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:22 PM
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12. I'd rather have a beer with Ted Kennedy than Dick Cheney.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:22 PM
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13. Food for the morons
That bumper sticker will go on nicely next to the yellow ribbon proclaiming a chickenhawks support of the troops. Would some manly fucking "conservative" want to be laura bush's boyfriend?
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:38 PM
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38. Laura
They already are, just by virtue of the fact that they live under her husband's rule.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:22 PM
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14. With Cheney
the poor man is suffering. :(
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:22 PM
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15. would you rather hunt with Dick or drive with Pickles?
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 03:01 PM
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49. Hell, she didn't even get a ticket for running a stop sign
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:23 PM
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16. No. It Doesn't Work That Way
They get to remember Chappaquidick forever and we're supposed to already forgotten that a vice president of the United States SHOT A GUY!
The Professor
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:31 PM
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27. IN THE FREAKIN' FACE!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:32 PM
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30. Youch!
Man that had to hurt, huh?
The Professor
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:35 PM
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34. We're also not supposed to mention Laura's little accident...
or the fact that Chimpy McCokespoon was a drunk, a drug user and a deserter, or any of a number of other little issues.

But they can remember (and bring up ad nauseam) Chappaquiddick and the Blow Job forever.

At least they're not still harping on "I didn't inhale." (Or are they?)
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:36 PM
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35. Now, You're Getting It
No remembering anything that embarasses them. But, they get to remember everything embarassing to any Dem ever! See, the rules are simple.
The Professor
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:23 PM
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17. And per your #2: especially since the repukes say "get over it"
and also, when anyone questions Fuckstick or Cheney, the excuse so often is "Well, that was yesterday, that's in the past and not worth talking about".

Apparently anything recent is verboten, but 35 years ago is okay to keep rehashing.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:24 PM
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19. republicans
Elephants have long memories, when it suits them.
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:26 PM
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20. Time time time is on my side, yes it is...
There's an easy answer to this one.

Ted has been clean, sober, and hasn't harmed anyone since before I was born.

Deadeye Dick shot a man in the face on Saturday.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:28 PM
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21. touche
Touche.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:28 PM
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22. I'd rather go for a ride with Ted than be anywhere on the road
when Laura's behind the wheel!

Come to think of it, I don't think Kennedy's got any DUIs to his name. I forget, does Cheney have 2 or 3? I know Stupid has one plus 2 other arrests and convictions that weren't hushed up.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:30 PM
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26. Albaugh
Most of Bush's felonies and misdemeanors were 'taken care of' by ex-FEMA director Albaugh, also known as 'Dr FIX IT.'
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:30 PM
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24. Talking point number 5
There's a better chance for snow to fall in Phoenix this August than either Kennedy or Cheney inviting that idiot on any excursion.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:30 PM
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25. Yeah, I just got This from a friend. Ammended to make it right
I would rather hunt Dick Cheny than ride with Ted.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:31 PM
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28. I'd rather they ALL went hunting with Dick
ALL THE FREEPERS! Would that ever benefit the nation!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:32 PM
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29. I've always noticed that rwingers
stay rutted in the past. I'm surprised they don't go back to complain about Grover Cleveland's illegitamate child, or the foppishness of Martin Van Buren.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:32 PM
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31. I'd rather go hunting with Dick than go on a ride with laura.
That's all you have to do.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:35 PM
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33. Don't forget this one . . .
"I'd rather go riding with Ted than stand in back of an SUV parked in the driveway of Marvin Bush's Northern Virginia mansion." A bit long for a bumper sticker, I guess.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:36 PM
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36. hahahahaha
That's awesome!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:38 PM
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37. Chappaquiddick=3 hours....Cheney=24 hours....
Thank you PassingFair.

Yes, I think we need to keep pushing that this is Cheney's Chappaquiddick
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:39 PM
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39. As other poster mentioned, Chappaquidick WAS a huge scandal,
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 02:41 PM by Mayberry Machiavelli
and cost Ted Kennedy any chance of ever being president.

You could certainly make the argument that the potential consequences to him might have been even greater had he not been a Kennedy, but the idea that no consequences ensued is laughable.

On edit: Also, any idiot RWer who would make this comparison by way of exonerating Deadeye betrays their stupidity. The fact that they can't do better than bring up a 37 year old incident is laughable, and not only that, the person they are talking to likely thinks that Kennedy was wrong then as Cheney is wrong now.

Are they trying to say that both are wrong, or neither is wrong, or only the Democrat is wrong? I'm confused, LOL.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:39 PM
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40. A redneck mailbox
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 03:07 PM
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50. Gotta have one of those, LOL
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:40 PM
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41. I saw some Ted Kennedy references like that on some....
gun-nut site.

They will go to great lengths to give their monarch a free pass.

--"I'd rather go hunting with Dick than go on a ride with Ted."--
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:40 PM
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42. That's all the pugs have to say...
Well Ted Kennedy.......

How childish
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:43 PM
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43. Don't get so defensive
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 02:43 PM by Lexingtonian
The freepers love to pretend that time has stood still since the Sixties rather than admit that in 1968 Republicans became the party run by and for bigots, thieves, racists, liars, prostitution, Ancient World Christian heresies, anti-Semitism, and drunkards.

I'd say Laura Bush is more dangerous in a car than Ted Kennedy. She killed her pal while sober and without excuses, without there being any alcohol or sex involved, that's what has the freepi upset.

I've never heard them come up with even a coherent response to the illegal Lowman Garner abortion thing. I've tried to get some of them to admit that if they were actually consistent, Dubya would be on Death Row.

If you had some kind of device to suck their hatred at the world out of freepi, and applied it to all of them, you could probably fit most of them into a single shoebox. Maybe even a soup can, or perhaps a Tic-Tac container even.
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:46 PM
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44. "Eep Opp Ork Ah Ah"
That's what the rat bastard right wingnut rulers will be saying 50,000 years from now, after the remnants of our species have long since been forced to abandon the draught-ridden ball of depleted uranium and ash formerly known as Earth. These future Republicans will honor tradition in the usual way, by embroiling themselves up to their assholes in scandal, with the usual denial, stonewalling and blame-gaming, until they finally resort the Nuclear Option: "Eep Opp Ork Ah Ah" which of course, unlike what you may remember from an episode of The Jetsons, atually means "But Teddy Kennedy drvoe off a bridge 50,000 years ago!"
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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:46 PM
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45. I rather go on a ride with Ted
than go through an intersection the same time as Laura. Or Bill Janklow, for that matter.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:48 PM
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46. Just a note to everyone who thinks they know what happened
at Chappaquiddick - much of what you think you know is spin from the rightwing.

The right wing "noise machine" cut its baby teeth working to discredit the Kennedys - all of them. They had books written and articles planted. From some of the posts I have read here on DU they very successfully planted mis-information in the mainstream culture that lingers in the minds and language of following generations.

I am just suggesting that you go back in time - look at the information and look at the source of the information. Figure out the political connections. Review it with the same critical eye that you use here today on the DU.

That said - Ted was a bad boy.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:48 PM
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47. THX from PHX
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 02:49 PM by enid602
Wow!!! Thanks everyone for such great input. I forgot to mention (in my original posting) that the local Phoenix station which aired this drivel was, of course our local FOX affiliate. You can always depend on them for the latest spin. I think I'll forward a copy of this thread to their e-mail address so they can see what just a few people think of their treatment of Cheney's hunting mishap.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 02:52 PM
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48. Let's see, they were partying and
then Ted and girl took ride for whatever reason, and the car runs off bridge into water and Kennedy must get out of drowning car then realises tootsie isn't out and then what, that is what we don't seem to know, but, let's assume he couldn't get her out. You talk about panic, shooting your hunting companion with small bird shot is nothing compare to a girl that cannot get out of a car and has drowned. Yet Bird Shot Cheney is too upset to make a decision without his press people there!? But the repubs. continue to hammer Ted for his judgment. True, the girl died and that was a tragedy. Had he been single it wouldn't have been so politically bad. It appeared bad morally, but the media assumed there was hanky panky going on. Only Ted knows.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 03:08 PM
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51. Chappaquiddick was nothing compared to what happened at Kenedy County!
:D



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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 03:10 PM
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52. How many people has Kennedy driven over Chappaquiddick
No doubt many more since that fateful day and all ended well. It's time for the right wingers to give it up.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 03:43 PM
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53. Yes, all across the country, mouth breathing rednecks are learning how...
to pronounce "Chappaquiddick"
Damn, he is the education president!
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