Could a Democrat run this ad and not win?

[yurbud]

"I don’t represent the big oil companies.

I don’t represent the big pharmaceutical companies.

I don’t represent the Enrons of this world.

But you know what? They already have great representation in Washington.

It’s the rest of the people that need it."

[TahitiNut]

1. "Why does he hate America?"

:shrug: Never underestimate the stupidity of the below average citizen.

[yurbud]

4. I have righty family members that would vote for this

[marmar]

2. Diebold...

:tinfoilhat:

[Nite Owl]

3. People are just waiting to

hear that message from someone.

[yurbud]

5. even good candidates seem reticent to say this

[Sammy Pepys]

6. I think that's a great idea for an ad....n/t

...

[yurbud]

8. bonus points if you know who did it

[Sammy Pepys]

12. Someone who's no longer with us....n/t

...

[yurbud]

13. yep

[ConservativeDemocrat]

7. "Who represents the unborn"?

"I'm for wise use of the land - those trees I own are my college fund"

"When I vote for Republicans, I get some money. With you guys I get nothing."

"You're all DEMON-crats"

"I don't like government taking my money and giving it to people who don't work"


These are the things I hear when tabling and canvassing for the party. Sure, you will get a few people excited about running against Enron, but the truth is that Republicans live in their own echo-chamber, just as I often accuse the D.U. of being an echo-chamber for the left.

Instead of parroting simplistic slogans ad-nauseum that largely depend on unspoken liberal assumptions that Republicans and many independents don't agree with (in this case, that Enron is not the exception in corporate governance, but the rule), it helps to have FACTS which attack their hidden assumptions.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[yurbud]

9. there is an untapped undercurrent of anger at corporations not just Enron

trade deals like CAFTA & NAFTA, and the tax breaks and corporate welfare they get.

Like welfare reform for people, a candidate would probably get votes for saying money to corporations should come with strings (or rather ropes) attached so the public gets something back for the favors.

We gave our oil companies a whole country--Iraq--and I don't see them saying thank you with their policies.

We give tax payer dollars for R & D to drug companies, and they still gouge us, fight any collective bargaining for better prices, and even fight reimportation from countries where they don't gouge as much.

I remember after 9/11, we gave relief to airlines but the GOP block provisions to freeze CEO salaries and require that they not lay off workers.

Right now, we are essentially letting corporations write their own rules and then appoint their own cops to regulatory agencies. That has to to stop, and people will get behind that.

[yurbud]

10. what part of Oregon are you in?

I'm from Portland and lived in Monmouth and Corvallis for college.

[yurbud]

11. I agree on having FACTS, the frustrating problem is people's short

attention spans for detail.

I think you can make a pretty easy case that privatization and deregulation have in many (maybe most) cases led to corruption and epic abuse of consumers as happened with electricity deregulation here in California.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

14. It Doesn't Say Anything. Represent How? Words Are Easy. Where's The

ideas? What would he change? What rights is he fighting for? How will he make my life better? Great, he won't be fighting for me, but just what is it he would be fighting for?

Way too empty of a message. It is too easy to just get up there and say "I promise I won't fuck you like the last guy did".

[yurbud]

16. both are more specific than a lot of Dems will say

[helderheid]

15. Kucinich tried this.

[yurbud]

17. Kucinich had at least two superficial but insurmountable problems:

He's a vegetarian.

He looks like a yard gnome.

I don't care one way or the other about either, but they would make it harder to win a general election.

[helderheid]

18. true. But that wasn't your question. ;)

[yurbud]

19. I haven't thought to put my cafepress link in my sig line

[helderheid]

20. get crackin'!