CNN just has Report Whittington wasn't certified to hunt?

[KoKo]

Did anyone else hear that. It was supposedly a report from the Texas Wildlife Commission... Isn't that run by Catherine Armstrong...she's on the Board or something.

Is that going to be their out? The old coot wasn't a certified hunter and that's why he got shot?

[valerief]

1. I'm not a lifeguard but I haven't drowned.

[bryant69]

2. Yeah - sometimes you have to take the law into your own hands

I mean this guy was out there hunting without a liscence, what do you expect Cheney to do? We already know he doesn't play by the rules.

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[OldLeftieLawyer]

10. Oh, please ............

Whittington was just ASKING for it.

He had it coming, getting in the way of a drunken Veep's happy shooting at penned birds with useless wings.

Damn, but that's manly!

[sasha031]

3. Hunt?

slaughtering birds who are raised in cages and can't fly is called hunting?

[Skittles]

6. "traditional" hunting is cowardly too

none of it is noble

[sasha031]

11. I agree

Skittles, I don't understnd people...

[Clark2008]

26. Not especially, if you do it correctly.

But, to each his own, I suppose.

(And I don't hunt. I'm just not against it if done correctly).

[Skittles]

34. what I dislike

is the idea some people find killing entertaining - that disturbs me

[FearofFutility]

21. Kinda like throwing a grenade in a lake

and calling it fishing.

[HereSince1628]

4. In some states there is a waiver for older hunters. Is that true of TX?

[HereSince1628]

9. Here you go, Texas waives hunter cert.req. for those born before 9-2-71

Every hunter (including out-of-state hunters) born on or after Sept. 2, 1971, must successfully complete a Hunter Education Training Course. Minimum age of certification is 12 years and cost is $10.

If you were born on or after Sept. 2, 1971, and you are:

under 12 years of age, you must be accompanied*.
age 12 through 16, you must successfully complete a hunter education course, or you must be accompanied*.
age 17 and over, you must successfully complete a hunter education course; or purchase a Hunter Education Deferral, and you must be accompanied*.

[KoKo]

22. do you have a link for this? Sounds VERY INTERESTING!

In other words...the NRA put in a "Grandfather Clause" to allow those who are real "privacy rights--legacy" folks to still go out and hunt...(Grandpop with Grandchild)while compromising that maybe having a license was a good thing for those born after '71?

That's very interesting. Wonder if the Blogosphere will get this out there to refute what must have been a Right Wing report with Katherine Armstrong and Cheney's backing. :shrug:

[HereSince1628]

28. Here you go

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/learning/hunter_education/ostates.phtml

[MadMaddie]

5. Ahh...The VP's little news conference didn't work...

So now they are going back to their original tactics and blaming the victim!!

Oh they are too much!!

[CottonBear]

14. The VP hasn't had a news conference since 2002. n/t

[MadMaddie]

18. Oh you are right I stand corrected....

His edited sit down with BritHum which was delayed.

:puke:

[CottonBear]

24. No problem. I didn't know that little fact until yesterday.

I knew that Bush* has had the lest press conferences of any modern president by a HUGE margin, but I really didn't think about Cheney. :(

[uppityperson]

7. He got shot because Cheney shot him. The holder of the gun is responsible

Whittington's not being certified (if true, whatever a designation of certified means) has nothing to do with the fact that Cheney shot him. It is Cheney's fault.

[NanceGreggs]

12. Exactly.

So what if Whittington wasn't certified?

If a pedestrian is hit by a car in a crosswalk, is he deemed to be at fault if he doesn't have a driver's license?

What crapola!

[MadMaddie]

13. You are correct it's irrelevent...

Look over there something shiney!!

Cheney fired the weapon, Cheney is responsible!!

[Ksec]

8. In Ohio you can hunt on private land without a license.

I dont know about Texas laws and if they have anything in common with this.

[hwmnbn]

17. Do you need a license to....

shoot someone in the face with a shotgun on private land? Too many laws on the books!

[peekaloo]

15. He mistakenly bought a target license.

paperwork, schmaperwork.

:shrug:

[The Traveler]

16. It is the shooter's responsibility

to make sure no human is in the line of fire before squeezin' that old trigger. Doesn't matter if he was certified to hunt or not. As my 17 year old pointed out, Cheney must learn to look before he shoots ... a lesson he should apply to his public life as well. :evilgrin:

[Jackpine Radical]

19. If he was hunting with Cheney he's certifiable.

[TheCowsCameHome]

20. It was clearly Whittington's fault. Period.

Anyone that would go hunting with Mr. Ready, Fire, Aim, must know what a reckless, stupid individual he is rubbing elbows with.

Look what he has done to America, for heavens sake.

Sorry, Harry, you went alng with Cheney. No on forced you to go.

[KoKo]

23. But, if he was a hunter who was more experienced than Cheney...even

without certification...wouldn't that make a difference?

Last night on FOX...Cheney admitted I'm a hunter with 12 to 15 years experience.

I posted the comment because most of us here on DU and others "out there" assumed he'd cut his baby teeth in Wyoming on Guns and Hunting. His admission that he's only "recently experienced" was kind of "revealing" wouldn't 'ya say. :eyes:

[DoYouEverWonder]

25. It is the responsiblity of the Armstrongs

that if they are going to allow their friends to hunt on their land, that everyone has the proper licenses.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

27. This is relevant to him being shot how?

This shows only that the Armstrong's run a shotty hunting resort. They should have checked everyones license and permits before letting them booze up and begin shooting.

[KoKo]

29. Booze and Grandfather Clause allowing Inexperienced Hunters who don't

comply with whatever laws are in place after '71 to go out and kill. Now...Cheney also was born before '71...so was he as competent as Wittington? :shrug:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

31. That's right, they don't have to take the hunters safely course

If they were born before 1971. Some fool thought that all people born before then knew how to safely handle a gun. Even if it was their first time. :eyes:

Guess this proves him wrong.

[KoKo]

33. So that means Cheney and most of their "Crowd" fall under the '71 Clause?

Meaning...they are all "Grandfathered?" None of them had to comply with newer laws that their grandkids might have to comply with if they are hunters? :shrug:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

35. It simply means they get a free pass on taking the course

Any person born before 1971 is exempt. They can be ordered to take the class if they commit an infraction against Texas hunting laws, but otherwise they don't have to in order to get a license.

[greendog]

30. As Vice President, Cheney has the authority to certify anyone...

...for hunting in Texas. It's in the Declaration of Independence. Heard it on Hannity.

[KoKo]

32. Woo HOO! Blitzer just DEBUNKED RW attack against Grandfather Clause

...meaning Wittington WAS "grandfathered in" to hunt within TEXAS LAW!

It was reported HERE ON DU...before Blitzer got the message from their Hack CNN WHORE EXPERT FACT CHECKERS!

Wittington...WAS Licensed to Hunt in TEXAS due to Grandfathering in the 1971 Law that Texas passed. :D CHEERS...for DU!