OK!!! I think the Pres. just cut his own throat!!

[JanusAscending]

I don't have a thread, but they are talking about it on Lou Dobbs now/ WHITE HOUSE REFUSES to discuss the take over of our ports by the United Arab Emerites!! It's going to happen folks!! I'm ready to fight , ARE YOU???

[az chela]

1. Hell Yes,more info please

[JanusAscending]

8. Hard to listen as I post, but Repubs are up in arms too!!

I hate watching "tweety" but I'm tuning in tonight, as well as Keith O.!! I'm sure they will both have a lot to say about it. Hope an AP report comes up on it soon so we can get a thread with more info! that is the extent of my knowledge now, but I thought Lou Dobbs was going to have a heart attack when he announced the breaking news!!

[JanusAscending]

28. Well, so far..........

"Tweety isn't touching this story. Let's see what Keith does in a while! IS IT TIME TO IMPEACH YET "pukes"??

[cantstandbush]

49. Take it to the streets, I say. A multimillion march on the WH!! n/t

[lonestarnot]

56. Ok! What the fuck is going on, I've been busy for a few hours and missed

something! United Arab Emirates taking over our what? ports?

[autorank]

102. Information on Port deal....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2454971

[Sydnie]

2. Lou seems very animated about it too

And didn't I see both R and D talking out about it? This might be the thing that bridges the gap on this administration. How in hell can you turn over running our ports to any outsiders? I don't get it.

[FreedomAngel82]

70. All about the moolah

Makes you really really wonder about 9/11 eh?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

97. He would be against it.

He's against the rights of non-Americans to own property and... exist, basically.

[kenny blankenship]

3. That should get all of Dobbs' wattles and chins in motion

at the very least. If he's in earnest about all of his America First crap, he's surely cornered into calling for immediate impeachment now. Ports equals national security, economic sovereignty and all of the rest of the stuff Lou Dobbs claims to care about.

[renate]

14. this is a serious subject, but

:rofl:
OMG that "all of Dobbs' wattles and chins in motion" comment is to die for!!!!!!!

[Radio_Lady]

40. Come on. I love "Dobbs' wattles and chins" -- they're so much like mine!

I'll bet he has "love handles" too. He's one of the nicest looking men on television -- and smart, too.

Another one I love is Mike Wallace. I met his briefly when we were both stranded in the Acapulco airport for a couple of hours waiting for a delayed flight. We spoke together as if we'd known each other our whole lives! I'm listening to audio CDs of Mike's book. He still has a wonderful, clear, strong voice. And the things he tells you about his amazing career -- you can't beat it!

Y'know, smart elderly ladies like men who don't make us look like we're robbing the cradle! Lou and Mike can park their slippers under my bed any time; We'd snuggle and discussed the direction of the media these days! The pillow talk would be astounding!

Good night and good luck,

Radio_Lady

[Joe Fields]

52. You made me actually laugh outloud.

Radio Lady, how do you feel about younger men? (say, 50yr. olds?)

[Radio_Lady]

79. Um-m-m, I have a stepson who will be 48 in September. I could have been

his mother! (Yikes! I shudder to think about it. I'll be 67 years old on May 31, 2006!)

How SHOULD I feel about 50-year-olds? Are YOU 50 years old? They're nice kids!!! I hope they get Social Security when they're my age!

Make peace a priority in 2006!

Radio_Lady

[JanusAscending]

84. Hey Honey ....we're the same age !!!

We Democratic women get better with age,...........like FINE WINE...right?

[Radio_Lady]

104. Wow! You're my age! Are you having a high school reunion?

Ours is coming up in October, 2006 in Orlando, Florida. Graduated high school in North Miami, Florida, in 1956, but I had skipped a grade and should have been in the class of '57. That's OK. Daddy bought me a '57 Chevy and I really enjoyed that car.

I don't drink wine, but did order Chateau Lafitte Rothschild at about $200 PER BOTTLE for a millionaire I worked for in the 1960s. (I tasted it once -- it was a little overripe for me!)

How about light beer? Especially the Mexican ones! At about age 40, after being assigned to call people for a survey of beer drinkers, I started drinking it at the rate of about one glass of beer a couple of times a week. It's delightful!

Oh, my hubby reminded me I once got fully sauced on margaritas -- yum for that tequila (not the worm, though.)

Make peace a worldwide priority in 2006!

Radio_Lady in Oregon

[JanusAscending]

121. My reunion will be coming up in '07.....God ..50 yrs.!!!

It's hard to believe........oh to go back to those innocent times. I hope to attend. I know a lot of my "click" have become widows like myself. Why do we out live our good men?? I used to like a glass of good wine every now and then, but I'm allergic to the preservatives now, so all it does for me is give me a wicked headache. I was never much of a drinker except on New years Eve maybe.In my younger days I have been known to dance around, by myself, drinking Sparkling Burgundy straight from the bottle!! Now that was a HOOT!! I have an exotic drink now and then when I go out to dinner with my kids,(if I don't have to drive) My last BD I just had to have a rum drink with banana liqueur called a "JUNEBUG" that was offered at T.G.I.F. That's my signature line and the nickname my parents gave me as a young 'un. I went on a cruise to the Bahamas once with my friends from work, and had a few Bahama Mamas..........didn't remember much after that! LOL Thank god I don't get seasick! My wish for 2006 is the same as your's, but we have our work cut out for us. Wishin' won't make it so! Nes Pas??? DC:pals:

[JanusAscending]

83. I don't know about her, but I'm on the market for a younger Democratic ..

Gentleman!!;-)

[hootinholler]

98. CT's a bit of a commute, but look me up if you get down this way (Md)

:evilgrin:

Glad to be considered a youngsta
-Hoot

[JanusAscending]

118. Hey, ya never know!!

I've got a daughter that just moved to VA. She, I'm ashamed to say is a Repuke. Just took a job as Chief Administrative Assistant to the Secretary of Commerce. I told her I hated to see her move my grandchildren so far away for just a three year job, 'cause when the pukes are out, she's out!!! She used to live on the Cape and worked for the National Seashore Agency out of Marconi Station in Wellfleet. It was nice to be able to visit in the summer, 'cause her home was on the Park Reserve, and one sand dune from the Ocean side of the Cape. If I ever get a chance to visit her in VA. I'll look ya up!!:hi: DC

[upi402]

120. LOL

:rofl: you, I like.
They're both great guys. Wallace would be great to hang with. My train of thought would derail most likely.


Meanwhile, I'll continue aging at pace.

[Marie26]

44. LOL. Great description.

Lou Dobbs should get up in arms about it, but he's not very consistent w/his concerns about "national security." When it's poor immigrants coming over the border, he is full of self-righteous indignation, but when ports are sold to the UAE, & bonds to China, he's oddly silent. I think Lou Dobbs uses his "national security" topics to (thinly) cover up his real agenda, which is stopping immigration. Sometimes that leads him to take some left-leaning stances as well, but I just wish he'd diversify a little away from the anti-immigrant drumbeat.

[Rick Myers]

4. Love the email Lou read:

We don't have to worry about a terror attack in the US, at the rate we're giving it away, we won't own it when it happens... (paraphrased)

[NanceGreggs]

7. That was an EXCELLENT email!

For once I wish I actually got FAUX news here - I'd love to hear the spin on this one!

Maybe somebody can book Ann Coulter for an appearance. I'm dying to hear HER take on turning over our ports to the 'evil towel-heads and murderous tent-merchants' she's always on about ...

[mom cat]

41. I'll bet this scares the freepers more than us. They really believe

that 9-11 was done by terrrrrrrrists and they can't tell one Arab from another.

[chalky]

73. Oh, you betcha!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x446111

[wordpix]

111. hahaha, now there's a guy who knows what's going down

[CountAllVotes]

5. oh great

Give our country away to a bunch of Arabs! F U C K 'E M !!!

[Sydnie]

6. LBN link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2113537

[JanusAscending]

9. THANK YOU Sydnie!!

n/t

[MnFats]

10. Remember how the right went NUTS wailing over the Panama Canal!?!?!

Reagan practically got elected on that alone! They called it TREASONOUS!!!

[blm]

29. Well, now they have BushInc leading them to global fascism and they've

been too dumb to see it.

[Leopolds Ghost]

77. Unfortunately, try finding an elected official willing to raise hell

against Bush on this issue like the Republicans did against Carter.

Pro-business elected officials are all "adults" and understand the
"nuances of the global economy", remember?

It is up to us to "manage" the transition from Britain to UAE more
skillfully than the Republicans are capable of...

[bahrbearian]

11. Ask Why?

[WinkyDink]

22. Gay. Don't even TRY to say "custom" to me!

[Richard D]

23. Brokeback pig farm?

[hatrack]

38. No, no, no - Brokeback Pig RANCH - it's a RANCH, see?

:puke:

[SammyWinstonJack]

100. !

:spray: Fabulous! :evilgrin:

[berni_mccoy]

12. I think you are right...the FREEPERS ARE PISSED

Check it out: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x446111

[buddysmellgood]

21. Idiot Freepers. They signed the contracts, now they bitch.

[TexasLady]

74. hey, i havent seen my freeper friend in a while

he's a trucker...I about had a cow when he came by unexpectedly, and started joking about the cheney debacle....common ground would be a GOOD thing! Im ready...and so is he! Screw this!

[mia]

110. Enjoyed this freeper response.

"The Bush administration considers the United Arab Emirates an important ally in the fight against terrorism"


Both Bush Administrations bent over for their Arab masters.



Get a room, you two!


15 posted on 02/12/2006 3:48:00 PM PST by montag813

[0007]

13. Perhaps we can let Inida control NORAD? n/t

[ColonelTom]

15. I'm sure UAE will do a "heckuva job" n/t

[jimshoes]

16. Maybe sell Homeland Security

to Red China.

[cmd]

17. Why not? They will soon own the "homeland" n/t

[Matariki]

18. did you fight when they were bought by the British company selling them?

any reason you are more upset by the United Arab Emirates buying it than the fact that they were already owned by a British company?

[flobee1]

24. 1 reason, kineta

the british are a little less likely to be wearing explosives

[Matariki]

35. you need a little cultural sensitivity training flobee1

The United Arab Emirates is a country, NOT al Qaeda

here, educate yourself:

http://www.emirates.org/

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ae.html

[AntiFascist]

57. I don't agree with the cultural stereotype....

just as I don't agree with stereotyping all jews as neocons, but perhaps you should educate yourself with this:

From the "Forbidden Truth", page 91:

Another bank believed to have facilitated transfers for Osama bin Ladin's networks was the Dubai Islamic Bank<30>, created in 1975, based in the United Arab Emirates, and run by none other than the current minister of finance of the United Arab Emirates<31>. According to the CIA, these transfers fed organizations associated with bin Ladin. The Dubai Islamic Bank was also one of the principal shareholders in the BCCI with more than $80 million in assets there. The bank has been involved in several scandals...

<30> Bankers Almanack, 2000; IAC Company Intelligence, 2001.
<31> Among its shareholders are the governments of Dubai and Kuwait (which account for 10 percent of the capital). The bank is a shareholder in Bahrain Islamic Bank, Islamic Bank Bangladesh Ltd., and Tadamon, and also has investments in Al Shamal Islamic Bank.

[Matariki]

62. i'm not that impressed by Wayne Madsen as a source of accurate info

so i would want to see more substantial research before i'd smear the whole country. Not to say it isn't possible. Given human nature it is a certainty that there are officials in the United Arab Emirates who are corrupt - just as there are here, and in Britain and so forth.

At any rate, I don't think the knee-jerk alarm to this possible sale is based in solid research of the buyers, but rather their race.

[AntiFascist]

72. This was written by French Intelligence people, I believe....

and look closely because I included references. Also, there are other articles that indicate arabian ports are a center for drug-arms trading internationally.

[Matariki]

76. well, the BCCI thing isn't surprising

which puts the stink of the BFEE all over it. It would be interesting to know how this sale came about, who initiated it and what links to the Bush Cartel there might be.

[AntiFascist]

80. Now you're talkin !! n/t

[JanusAscending]

26. NO !

because I was unaware that this is the case. Can you please bring me up to speed? I hate to say this because I'm a relatively new DUer, but your post sounds like you are "challenging me" Maybe you could set me straight on this as well? All I did was post something I felt was important news to all of us, and for me, this IS THE STRAW that breaks "this camel's back" I will await your reply.:shrug:

[Matariki]

34. here's a link

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/02/13/ap2522632.html

or - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/16/AR2006021601476.html
(the info about who the seller is, is further down in the article)

or you can search for "port sale united arab" in google news. The British company is called Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co. I don't know how long they've owned major american ports.

i wasn't challenging you specifically, but wanted to point out that the alarm (general alarm, not yours) over the United Arab Emirate buying it might be a little bit racist. People seem to think that this government owned company is automatically a terrorist organization just because it's Arab.

[Marie26]

47. What is the danger here?

So UAE is an Arab country. Saudi Arabia is also an Arab country that has billions of dollars invested in the US. China has bought assets in the US. Why is allowing UAE to buy these ports more dangerous than other foreign investments? I guess you could argue it allows the UAE to smuggle goods into the US, but doesn't US Customs & ICE enforce these laws - how does the actual port ownership change things? I know this probably isn't a good thing, but I don't quite understand what exactly is the threat to national security.

[Matariki]

53. i don't think you meant to respond to me?

we seem to be asking pretty much the same question. I pointed out that the ports were already owned by a foreign company. But since they were presumably white europeans, no one seemed to mind much.

[Marie26]

61. Kind of

Just because you seem to know a lot about this issue. I don't see it either, but since I'm pretty uninformed about the whole port issue, I wondered if maybe you knew what the possible "national security" concerns were. Mostly people seem to be simply repeating that it's a danger w/o explaining why. I think you have a good point about the possible cultural biases. It's kind of like how people became upset when Japan bought the Rockafeller Center, but no one cared about all the buildings British companies own. Kind of a xenophobic flavor to both stories. The fact that Freepers are on the same side isn't encouraging. So, I was just wondering what (if any) valid security risks have been raised about this purchase.

[Matariki]

66. I don't know what valid security risks there are

I'd like to see some research on that too. I don't know that much about the issue, I just started searching for info when posts started appearing about this the other day. Like yourself, I was wondering if the concern was legitimate or prejudice. When I saw that the ports were already owned by a British company I leaned more toward the latter.

I'm more concerned about the implications of foreign companies, whether Arab, British or Chinese buying up US assets. It seems to say quite a bit about the state of our economy.

[AntiFascist]

60. Maybe because some of us fear...

that certain religious-right factions of our government might be in on it themselves. How many rural-based end-timers fantasize about big cities getting blown up? I've seen more than one quote by certain right-wing religious leaders along these lines!

[Marie26]

64. I'd be more scared if Halliburton bought it. nt

[Ouabache]

94. Well Halliburton had the contract to service the USS Cole

in that Yemeni port when it had a hole blown in the side of it, so your fears about Halliburton are certainly well founded. Coinkydink how that happened a month or so before an election that Halliburton's former CEO was a candidate for VP.

[wordpix]

112. check this out and maybe you'll understand the concern

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/13888407.htm

snip:

U.S. lawmakers said the UAE was an important transfer point for shipments of smuggled nuclear components sent to Iran, North Korea and Libya by a Pakistani scientist, Abdul Qadeer Khan. They also said the UAE was one of only three countries to recognize the now-toppled Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate government.

[JanusAscending]

81. OK, as far as my "initial gut reaction ",............

I was more ANGRY that the "mis administration" said flat out "NO DISCUSSION about it....it's a done deal, and anyone one who doesn't like it can go "CHANEY" themselves." There was nothing racist about it. I do however feel that bush has sold us out to the Saudi's, and this is a dangerous thing when China and Saudi Arabia call in their "chits" and BANKRUPT this country!! ( Which by the way is what Osama planned from the beginning.) So please, please don't think I'm a racist. I'm a discerning Christian, not a "fundi".

[Matariki]

85. I understand what you're saying, those are legitimate concerns

It's worrisome the way this country is being sold and sold out. From national forest land to city ports to the national debt.

I wasn't saying that I thought *you* were racist. But I do think the reaction in a lot of people has to do with that. Apparently 'the freepers' are freaking out about this too, and you can be certain why.

[JanusAscending]

89. Thank you very much.

I get your drift from a few previous posters.

[Inland]

55. Well, you kinda want a stable, reliable company and country.

I'm not sure where that puts Bahrain vs. Britain, but they are both behind the US and we are a little more aware of port security now than five years ago.

[catabryna]

19. I just did a quick google search...

because I just couldn't believe that I hadn't heard of this pending sale before now. Granted, I'm probably not the best researcher, but the words "port operation sale united states" not in quotes only turned up articles with dates beginning about 4 days ago on a quick scan! How the hell did this manage to make it completely under the radar? And, the Cheney fiasco wouldn't have made a difference... this was in the works long before this incident, and probably a lot of others!

[Matariki]

37. Here are a buttload of google news links for you

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=port+sale+united+arab+&btnG=Search+News

i used the strings: "port sale united arab" and "port sale Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation"

[catabryna]

105. Thanks for your help

I deliberately did not check google news because I wanted to know if the pending sale had been reported prior to the coverage that began to appear earlier this week. All of the articles that I've found using numerous search strings are recent.

I was trying to look for something that might have been a few months old because I was surprised (though I shouldn't have been, considering who we are dealing with) that it flew in under the radar like it did. But, it's pretty clear that it was a totally hush, hush deal that no one wanted us to know about until it was too late to object or take any action to prevent it from happening.

I think the old saying "nothing is a secret anymore" is quickly being replaced with "nothing is public anymore".

[Stephanie]

20. Bloomberg might fight him on this.

He said he's going to look at it. He can cancel the lease to the company if he wants to.

[cry baby]

25. recommending so everyone can see this story.

[JanusAscending]

27. Thank you cry baby,

There are many more detailed posts on this subject, so I guess we will all see it!!:hi:

[malaise]

30. Why don't you investigate who really owns that company

It stinks of Bushco.

[NorthernSun]

31. UAE link

The AP link is at AP Wire http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/13888407.htm

[Kahuna]

32. Hell yeah! If this doesn't make people get off their lazy butts and

take to the streets nothing will.

[paulthompson]

33. Why should we care about UAE more than the British?

One reason is that British leaders aren't known to go falcon hunting with Osama bin Laden, as the leaders of the UAE have frequently done. Here's an entry from my 9/11 Timeline. Note the February 1999 trip involving much of the UAE royal family took place AFTER bin Laden's bombing of the US embassies in Africa in 1998, so one cannot claim they did not know bin Laden was a major terrorist at that point.

1995-2001: Persian Gulf Elite Go Hunting with bin Laden in Afghanistan
After the Taliban takes control of the area around Kandahar, Afghanistan, in September 1994, prominent Persian Gulf state officials and businessmen, including high-ranking United Arab Emirates and Saudi government ministers, such as Saudi intelligence minister Prince Turki al-Faisal, frequently secretly fly into Kandahar on state and private jets for hunting expeditions. (Los Angeles Times, 11/18/01) General Wayne Downing, Bush's former national director for combating terrorism, says: “They would go out and see Osama, spend some time with him, talk with him, you know, live out in the tents, eat the simple food, engage in falconing, some other pursuits, ride horses. One noted visitor is Sheik Mohammed ibn Rashid al Maktum, United Arab Emirates Defense Minister and Crown Prince for the emirate of Dubai.” (MSNBC, 9/5/03) While there, some develop ties to the Taliban and al-Qaeda and give them money. Both bin Laden and Taliban leader Mullah Omar sometimes participate in these hunting trips. Former US and Afghan officials suspect that the dignitaries' outbound jets may also have smuggled out al-Qaeda and Taliban personnel. (Los Angeles Times, 11/18/01) On one occasion, the US will decide not to attack bin Laden with a missile because he's falconing with important members of the United Arab Emirates' royal family (see February 1999).

[tabasco]

36. Surprise, surprise.

[The Backlash Cometh]

39. I'm telling you, I think Bush needs those ports open because he plans

and his Saudi friends plan to sneak out their loot from the USA. I think Bush knows that he may be going into exile.

Does anybody know what kind of things the Bush Administration and his friends don't want customs to know about? Would it be loot accumulated during WWII?

[Straight Shooter]

42. My first thought would be drugs.

It always comes down to drugs, one way or the other. That's how populations are really controlled. Keep a good percentage of them addicted, the rest of them paying out the nose to fight the crime structure because drugs are illegal, but the power games go all the way to the top. Look at the opium harvest in Afghanistan. Chaos by design is bringing another raging wave of heroin to the world.

Ain't nobody being fooled but those willing to be fooled.

[The Backlash Cometh]

43. It just doesn't seem very ambitious.

I guess they're going for the sure thing.

[Matariki]

46. I think you are on to something

i don't think it was a coincidence that the bush brothers were/are governors of southern border states (where the cocaine flows)

[lildreamer316]

51. Now THAT'S a connection I hadn't made..

thanks...food for thought.

[Straight Shooter]

54. I think you are on to something, too.

I had not made that connection, either. It certainly is another weird co-inky-dink in the BFEE.

===================================

For some reason I'm wondering if the Carlyle Group has a connection in this, also. I would not be surprised.

[Matariki]

58. between iran contra and what has been going on in Haiti

it got me thinking. i remember reading the former head of the dea quit in protest during the iran/contra stuff, saying that the cia was bringing in plane loads of cocaine from south america. i've noticed that Haiti's coups have corresponded neatly with Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. getting in office. I wondered why they should care so much about a poor country like Haiti, then I remembered that Jeb was the governor of a State a short boat trip away.

[Straight Shooter]

59. Interesting.

There is a theory (insert :tinfoilhat: here) that the CIA introduced crack cocaine into the ghettos. Was that during Reagan's administration? I can't remember.

I've also been curious about the Haiti situation. The bushes are soooo concerned about the politics but seem to completely gloss over the AIDS problem there. Follow the money.

[Matariki]

78. Yep - it started during the Reagan era

Right after they started their "war on drugs" heh-heh. There sure was a lot of coke floating around during the 80's - then when Clinton came into office it became less prevalent, and, I swear - a lot of (pre dot-com bust)IT people were suddenly (to the month) swimming in coke when Bush Jr. coming into office. Coincidence?

here's a link from the DOJ: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/deamuseum/dea_history_book/1985_1990.htm

The Crack Epidemic

In the early 1980s, the majority of cocaine being shipped to the United States was coming through the Bahamas. Soon there was a huge glut of cocaine powder in these islands which caused the price to drop by as much as 80 percent. Faced with dropping prices for their illegal product, drug dealers made a shrewd marketing decision to convert the powder to "crack," a smokeable form of cocaine. It was cheap, simple to produce, ready to use, and highly profitable for dealers to develop. As early as 1981, reports of crack appeared in Los Angeles, San Diego, Houston, and in the Caribbean.

[Straight Shooter]

91. Thanks, I bookmarked this for in-depth reading later.

It's all a sorry sham, smoke and mirrors, dogs and ponies running around all over the place. The Republicans are never serious about addressing the drug problem. If anything, they always make it worse. But you can't tell that to the average American, because they can't see beyond the fog.

[reprobate]

93. Actually, it started during Nam. Remember Air America?

Their biggest job was importing cocaine from the vietnamese war lords. The CIA Cocaine Airline.

[AntiFascist]

96. Here's a summary of CIA involvement, starting in 1947....

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/blum1.html

[Matariki]

99. i always thought that it was heroin coming from asia

and more prevalent a problem than coke in the 60's and 70's?

i've heard an interesting ('tinfoil hat') theory that the Vietnam war had much to do with the heroin trade.

[reprobate]

107. You're right it was Horse. But my real point is that the CIA has been

involved in the drug trade for many decades, with whatever drug was popular at the time. Speculation I've heard is that it's how they fund their black ops. But I would not doubt that the Bush family gets their royalties from every flight.

[AntiFascist]

116. um, don't forget Iran-Contra where drugs were used to...

finance arms for Iran. Odd, I read a short description of Iran-Contra the other day that seemed to cover up the drug aspect. I wonder if they are trying to rewrite history?

[reprobate]

123. The ones in power always rewrite history.And we've ALWAYS been at war

with East Asia.

[CJCRANE]

115. Seems to be the BFEE MO:

PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION.

That is, create (or facilitate/manipulate/exacerbate) a problem, wait for the reaction, then provide a pre-planned solution.

(IMHO 9-11 is the ultimate example of this).

[AntiFascist]

75. Halliburton's Brown & Root has in the past...

I dug this up for another thread:

http://switzerland.indymedia.org/de/2002/05/211.shtml

From 1994 to 1999, during US military intervention in the Balkans where, according to "The Christian Science Monitor" and "Jane´s Intelligence Review," the Kosovo Liberation Army controls 70 per cent of the heroin entering Western Europe, Cheney´s Brown and Root made billions of dollars supplying U.S. troops from vast facilities in the region. Brown and Root support operations continue in Bosnia, Kosovo and Macedonia to this day...

MORE

[AntiFascist]

68. Particularly Florida....

where I'm sure it accounts for a nice big chunk of the economy, much of flowing to Jeb, no doubt.

[reprobate]

95. Sneak? Electronic funds transfer would do it. It's something far worse.

No, it's not about their loot. Money now moves around the world at the speed of light.

Remember Sept. 11, 2001? This conspiracy theorist believes MIHOP was the method.

This is nothing but preparation for another Bush attack on the United States.

Imagine what a nuke would do to one of our major ports. I'm not talking just about the death and destruction it would cause. It's main result would be Marshal Law, and the canceling of all elections for the duration of the "emergency".

And BTW, just who controls all the nukes in the United States? The president?

Can you now figure out why KBR was given the contract for those 'internment' camps?

They're doing it right out in the open and our leaders are saying NOTHING about it.

Think about it. Everything that's happened has led up to this. Stolen elections. 9/11. Patriot act. Terror alerts. Spying on Americans. Internment camps. See a pattern here?

The one bright spot about the situation will be that all us DUers will get to meet each other person to person in the camps.

This is not a joke. I'm dead serious. America is over.

[wordpix]

113. maybe loot accumulated from TX gov days through today

[Serenades]

45. Crapola

George W. Bush is fucked up. Seriously, only God can save this country (I'm serious). Some of you guys might not believe in God but damn -- he's all we got left to hold on to. This is like a race against time. Will George W. Bush destroy America and the west or will 2009 get here in time?

[JanusAscending]

88. I tend to agree with you, but....................

we've got to stop thinking about the '08 election, and concentrate on taking over the house and senate in '06 then IMPEACH THE WHOLE ADMINISTRATION or send them to Jail or have them deported like a previous poster said , to the UAE.:grr:

[dickthegrouch]

48. Gold Oil Drugs, exactly the things that have always saved

the elite.

G old
O il
D rugs

are not the answer in any combination.

[JanusAscending]

90. Welcome to DU.............

but keep in mind...........that's your opinion, which you have a right to, and God has nothing to do with gold, oil and drugs, (except perhaps he created them???) It's our fellow man who uses them for EVIL!.......and that's just my opinion!:hi:

[fooj]

50. Here's something else to throw on the fire.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060217/ap_on_go_co/abramoff_gonzales;_ylt=Aib_Mk687HbpJ4dvVvJBuh4Gw_IE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-

Peace.

[alarcojon]

63. NY Times editorial on the matter

The Bush administration has done far too little to protect the nation's ports against terrorists. But it has taken that laxness to a new level by allowing a company from the United Arab Emirates to run significant operations at six American ports, including the Port of New York. The administration should reverse this decision.

National security experts have long warned that the ports are a key point of vulnerability. One of the worst fears about terrorism is that a nuclear device might be shipped from overseas and set off when it arrived in a port in a large city. The federal government should be doing everything it can to ensure that port security is as rigorous as possible, including keeping port management in trusted hands.

But the British company that operates the Port of New York, and other ports, has been acquired by Dubai Ports World, based in the United Arab Emirates. Although that nation is considered an ally, there have been troubling connections between it and anti-American terrorism. Many of the Sept. 11 hijackers and planners traveled through that country, and its banking system was used in preparing for the attacks.

But the Bush administration appears to have brushed these concerns aside. The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, a panel that includes representatives from Homeland Security, Treasury and other departments, has given its approval to the transfer of control. Senator Charles Schumer, Democrat of New York, who has long raised questions about port security, is asking the Homeland Security Department to take a closer look at the impact of the takeover.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/16/opinion/16thu2.html

On edit: Let Schumer know you approve of what he's doing!

[lonestarnot]

67. Well that simple brained motherfucker! When does the street chaos begin?

[alarcojon]

69. When the people get off their la-z-boys

and wake the fuck up!

[FreedomAngel82]

65. So they're actually talking about this??

Wow, not Cheney shooting the poor man?

[seabeyond]

71. i swear they made a deal withh saudi to give our country

away. the mess with afghanistan, iraq and now into iran,..... i jsut feel it is all about a deal between bushco's and saudi

[milkyway]

82. No surprise. The bush goal is the destruction of the United States

federal government, and replacing it with something quite different. I'm sure the UAE people will do a heckuva job.

[leesa]

86. How much more do you need folks. They did 9-11 with the financial support

of these same people and now they are selling them our ports of entry... WHAT the FUCK will it take to wake you up? Why the hell do you think Bush's lawyer was dispatched to defend the Saudis and these guys against the 9-11 survivor's families when they sued to trace the terrorist funds?

[roguevalley]

87. considering two of my baby boys are in the merchant

marines, hell yes.

[JanusAscending]

92. That's what I've been wiating to hear..............

so let's figure out a way to get it done, maybe now the "freepers" who agree will even jump on the bandwagon. Bye the way, I want to thank you all for voting this up to my FIRST GREATEST PAGE!!! Although I'm very modest about taking any credit seeing that there was "plenty of food for fodder" and you all helped!!!:grouphug:

[Blue_In_AK]

106. RV, I didn't know this about you...

My H is a retired merchant marine engineer. He thinks this UAE idea is the stupidest thing he's ever heard.

[roguevalley]

109. I agree,. My boys just started and are on oil tankers. god help us all.

hug your hubby, the Merchant marines rule!

[JCMach1]

101. if this is the thing that makes you fight, you haven't been paying

attention...

[JanusAscending]

108. Say what?............

Did you read any of my prior posts on this thread? I have been fighting, and I HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION !! What in god's name would make you say I haven't? As I posted, "this is the straw that broke this camel's back!! I've had enough........and will be screaming louder for IMPEACHMENT until it happens!!! Thank you very much!

[Hubert Flottz]

103. What Bush Worry?

He's the king now!

[wordpix]

114. Treas Sec. John Snow in charge of "secretive" committee approving the sale

http://www.treas.gov/organization/bios/snow-e.html

[GetTheRightVote]

117. NIce to see, I have been concerned over this all week !!

:kick:

[upi402]

119. You're definitely ahead of the curve!

I heard yesterday on AAR.

[Nothing Without Hope]

122. Five other DU threads on the Dubai sale of US port operations - LINKS

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2454971
thread title (2-12-06 GD-P): 911 Bankers to Run SIX Major U.S. Ports—Dubai(UAE). IMPEACH NOW!!!
Comment/excerpt: “Six ports will be run and protected by a Dubai based port management company (DP World): New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia. The deal was approved by a “U.S. government panel coordinated out of the White House. Just prior to the deal, David C. Sanborn of Virginia was appointed as administrator of the Maritime Administration of the Transportation Department. Sanborn worked as DP World's director of operations for Europe and Latin America.…. A company in the United Arab Emirates is poised to take over significant operations at six American ports as part of a corporate sale, leaving a country with ties to the Sept. 11 hijackers with influence over a maritime industry considered vulnerable to terrorism.“

Even the freepers are upset about this outrage:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x446111
thread title (2-16-06 GD): Freepers JUST AS MAD About the Port Control Issue... Common Ground?
Comment/excerpt: Free Republic posts expressing concern/outrage over Dubai operating 6 major US ports.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2113537
thread title (2-16-06 LBN): White House Defends Port Operations Sale
Comment/excerpt: Yahoo News/AP. “The Bush administration on Thursday rebuffed criticism about potential security risks of a $6.8 billion sale that gives a company in the United Arab Emirates control over significant operations at six major American ports. Lawmakers asked the White House to reconsider the deal. The sale to state-owned Dubai Ports World was ‘rigorously reviewed’ by a U.S. committee that considers security threats when foreign companies seek to buy or invest in American industry, National Security Council spokesman Frederick Jones said….”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x453502
thread title (2-17-06 GD): Freeper and neocon websites unable to put a spin on the UAE port takeover
Comment/excerpt: COMPILATION post with many links and good explanation, for example of the role played by GOLD in the money trail to al Qaeda. Also that the United Arab Emirates were one of the TRHEE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT RECOGNIZED THE TALIBAN AS THE LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT OF AFGHANISTAN. Muh more on the obvious security disaster this deal would be and why.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x452192
thread title (2-17-06 GD): Excellent! "Democrats plan bill to block Dubai-US port deal"
Comment/excerpt: Reuters: “Two U.S. Democratic senators said on Friday they would introduce legislation aimed at blocking Dubai Ports World from buying a company that operates several U.S. shipping ports because of security concerns. Robert Menendez of New Jersey and Hillary Clinton of New York said they would offer a measure to ban companies owned or controlled by foreign governments from acquiring U.S. port operations.” Hillary is calculating that the GOPs and Dems will like this position and it will boost her presidential chances, but I wouldn’t care WHO was calling for sanity in this.