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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:28 PM
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The other "Smoking Gun": The Executive Order
Cheney mentions an "Executive Order" when responding to the only substantive issue he allowed Boot-Licker Britt to pose to him -- about Scooter and Treasonous National Security violations of Plamegate.

The EO expansion was issued in March of 2003. (Interesting timing, no?)

That makes the bushkid himself a willful, active, co-conspirator in the effort to out/ruin/kill? Valerie Plame in retaliation for Joe Wilson's whistleblowing on their Terorize the Nation into War caper.

The chatterers are "baffled" by how badly Cheney handled this incident. But what if we give him some credit for the 40+ years of PR saavy he is also reported to have? The "handling" may have been deliberate.

Cheney may be playing hardball against some effort to dump him, hoping to stave off impeachment**.

Who knows, may Ole Harry had volunteered to give Dick the "bad news."

In any case, Uncle Dick has just dropped Plamegate turd, steaming and stinking, on the carpet of the Oval Office.

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** Don't sell them short. Unlike the Euphemedia ostriches, they really DO fear impeachment.

Just because they "create" reality for others, that doesn't mean they're ignorant of real-reality. They knew they had to steal elections to get into office, so they just got busy doing it.

(begin repeat of old, but applicable, rant)

They know they are vulnerable to public opinion and prepare for it -- by taking the American People out of the electoral loop, by terrorizing them with threats of "mushroom clouds in 45 minutes" -- they'll do what's necesary; without regard to moral or constitutional limits.

And they'll keep "winning" until "the rest of us" (through our so-called "leaders" among the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy) finally demand that they be stopped -- and removed -- and punished -- and given up to Int'l law -- and have all their never-legitimate actions reversed. Yes, each and every one of them.

This is the "question of our time," how long can fascism prosper in an information age. We're finding out.

Who knows, the shooting of Whittington may well have been a "shot across the bow" at some "old guard" establishment Repubs who are no longer able to ignore what the PNACons are really doing to our once-great nation. He may well have been reading Cheney the riot act. He's certainly someone who would have no need to kowtow to this cabal and may well consider him just another pissant, like the idiot bushkid. Regarless of how "the story" plays out, the message is sent.

Fascism -- monarchism -- theocracy -- it's all the same thing.

A belief that a minority has the right to rule a majority*. It matters little if it's a master race, a theocracy, a family dynasty, a ruling class, or the current DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy.

This is what the stolen election of 2000 was all about. There was zero attention paid to the Will of the People of Florida and the nation. The result of the vote (not the vote count**) was well known shortly after the election when the uncounted ballots were extrapolated by precinct, and Gore won FL by tens of thousands. Any ethical, moral, real American would have conceded to Gore at that point.

(Note: It is at this point that many of you have been trained by fascist propaganda to think "electoral college" and/or "close election" and that somehow some quirk in the system makes what was perpetrated legal or constitutional or something not as disturbing as the truth.)

The contract generally known as the US Constitution was put into breach on January 6th, 2001.

It was this overruling of the will of the (former) American People that left us open to the 9-11 attack, Which was a far less important event compared with the election theft. It simply allowed the 21st Century Neo-Fascists to have their "Reichstag fire" to consolitdate control.

The more important part was that the only global force for good in the past several decades, the public opinion of the American People, was taken out of the equation. Which is why prior to the election theft we could stop plane-crashing over the Pacific at the Millenium with help from Jordanian Intelligence, and after... well, not so much. We had lost our moral ascendency, our place as the court of last resort.

Certainly this is a "kinder, gentler" fascism. But did you expect goose-stepping and racial hate speech? It's much more efficient to simply scream "Mushroom clouds in 45 minutes!!" through every Euphemedia outlet in order to terrorize a population into compliance (20 guys with boxcutters pales in comparision, doesn't it?).

But make no mistake, it is fascism pure and simple.

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*"After Socialism, Fascism combats the whole complex system of democratic ideology, and repudiates it, whether in its theoretical premises or in its practical application. Fascism denies that the majority, by the simple fact that it is a majority, can direct human society" - Benito Mussolini 1932

**"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decided everything." -- Josef Stalin (echoed by Pol Pot, Bushes, Scalia, Rehnquist, etc...)

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:32 PM
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1. it shows premeditated intent to out an in the feild CIA agent, TREASON.!
do they hang them or use a needle for that...

i vote for a firing squad..
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:35 PM
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2. BINGO!!
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 04:38 AM
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5. Sorry, but if we execute them for this...
...then they can't be "extraordinarily rendered" to The Hague for war crimes justice.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 07:17 AM
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8. Can I have a good old fashioned
beheading? And in Saudi Arabia?
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:05 PM
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3. Kicked and rec'd! (nt)
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:26 PM
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4. Yes, 5 days after they perpetrated the crime, they launched the coverup
Remember, Joe Wilson appeared on CNN briefly in January.

They were lying in wait for him.

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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 07:13 AM
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6. They can instantaneously make a law? at will?
They can just Un classify something without mentioning it to anyone?

Are we still in America???
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:33 PM
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9. Sure, the can "unclassify".... BUT
They can be asked why. By a prosecutor or by Congress.

Biden seems to be "on the case" at least to some degree.

It won't take much to get him saying that they, bushkid included now, only declassified to "Get the Wilsons."

It's petty, vindictive, treasonous and undeniably impeachable.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 07:17 AM
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7. I can't remember where
but I remember hearing about his interview on Brit Hume and he was asked about the outing of Plame and from what I got is he had to do it with authority from someone else such as Bush himself. Was that right?
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Free the Press Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:51 PM
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10. Where in the US Constitution do executive orders originate from?
What Constitutional authority gives presidents the right to issue executive orders that CONTRAdict the US Constitution, the Legislation passed by Congress, and the judgments of the federal courts?

Just asking.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:13 AM
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12. They're not supposed to be binding...
...on anyone other than executive branch entities. They're just policy directives.

Anyone who uses one as a rationalization to violate existing law (like the "Get the Wilsons" squad) is just playing a head game with themselves.

Anyone saying to a judge/jury/congress that an EO trumps a law would be like a couple of ten-year olds with arms full of booty saying "somebody said we could have this."

But this is how (neo)fascism works. They literally believe that not getting caught in a lie is the same thing as telling the truth.

They can only be dealt with by accusation, trial and full punishment. They cannot be "convinced" to see the error of their ways and allowed to repent.

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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 08:45 PM
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11. Cheney -- playing hardball against some effort to dump him??
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 08:55 PM by pat_k
. . .Cheney may be playing hardball against some effort to dump him, hoping to stave off impeachment**. . .

It sure sounds like the bell is tolling for Cheney -- and beltway "buzz" is paving the way. For example, Craig Crawford on Hardball last night:

CRAWFORD: I‘ve heard stories about the president dismissing Cheney in meetings, sometimes even with just body language being dismissive with him. There have been stories about this. And Cheney has gotten this administration into more trouble that he might be worth.

Peggy Noonan today wrote in the “Wall Street Journal” suggesting that maybe Republicans would be better off with a new vice president, someone who might be a successor to the president. For his agenda in the long run, that might be the best thing.

I think we‘re going to hear some of that talk, not because of this one incident, but the pattern of things, not to mention the story about the CIA leak case and the growing role that at least the federal prosecutor thinks the vice president has in it.

Get ready for Vice President Jeb.

And when it happens, we MUST NOT allow it to "to stave off impeachment." (Aarrgghhh. I can just hear all the self-proclaimed "strategists" now, "We can't impeach Bush now, we'll give Jeb the Presidency. . .")

Don't fall for any "strategic" BS that tells us we should sit on our hands.

We must fight to Impeach Bush NOW, regardless of who he sticks in the veep slot! When we Impeach Bush, we accuse his entire Syndicate. As the criminal narrative comes together in the public mind, no one with close ties to the Bush Syndicate or the PNAC racketeers will escape condemnation. And we can be sure of one thing. If they toss Cheney overboard, someone with VERY close ties will take his place.

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. . .never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. - John Donne
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