Either this PHOTO is Backwards or the POLICE NEVER GOT A LOOK AT HIM

[berni_mccoy]

The report has the WRONG SIDE. Now, in a POTENTIAL homicide case (SHOTGUN BLAST TO FACE,NECK,CHEST) the police DO NOT get this stuff wrong, which leads me to believe either

a) Photo is backwards,
b) Police never met with/saw victim, or
c) This is a hoax and the make-up person got the wrong side

And I doubt it's c) so which is it?

ALSO, HOW IN THE HELL did shot reach his heart if he was HIT on his RIGHT SIDE as indicated? More questions are raised instead of answered!

[arcane1]

1. I doubt the pic is backwards

there is a sign behind him that is reading the correct way

[warrior1]

2. The writing on the sign behind

is right. The police report was wrong. Probably because they didn't see the victim.

[Inland]

15. Good catch. nt

[Punkingal]

3. I doubt the police ever saw him.

Unless they went to the hospital, and I'll bet they didn't.

[booksenkatz]

4. Maybe they did the sketch based on Armstrong's memory

She seemed very eager to tell everyone what she saw, didn't she? And since Armstrong didn't see a goddamn thing, naturally the sketch would be wrong.
:shrug:

[Blue Belle]

28. Actually, when I watched the camera footage of her interview...

on Keith Olberman last night, she was motioning across the left side when describing the spray hit - and I remember finding that strange because the reports said he was hit on the right side. Now I didn't hear her interview, because KO was using stock footage to point out who was there, but her motions confirm the evidence in this photo.

[booksenkatz]

30. Why would she be making any motions at all, either L or R?

She didn't even see the "spray." When the SS started running, she thought Cheney'd had a heart attack. She didn't even know of the existence of the "spray" at that moment, so how on earth could she describe it? Why is everyone interviewing her as if she were an eyewitness?

No, the gal I want to see interviewed hasn't released a statement yet, not to my knowledge, anyway. I wonder if we'll ever get to hear her version of events?

[Blue Belle]

31. You're right.

EVERYONE at that Hunting outing should have been interviewed...

[bleedingheart]

5. he is really lucky he didn't lose his eye

or his life...

[TomInTib]

6. Her's my take on this......

the only thing I can think of is that it went something like this:

"Ms Armstrong, there is someone from the Sheriffs Department here to see Mr Cheney"

"Well you just tell him to sit at the help's table in the kitchen and make a list of questions for Mr Cheney to answer. And if he has any forms we need to fill out have him give you those, as well.
Tell him to wait there until you bring them back to him. Now, be quick about it- it is almost lunch time."

[bigtree]

7. yeah. I thought Cheney was supposed to have swung to his left

west into the setting sun. How did the marks get on his right side, the far side, and not on the left?

[berni_mccoy]

11. DING DING DING!!! THE ALARM BELLS GOING OFF!!!!

[warrior1]

13. I believe

darth said he swung to the right and shot harry on the right side. which doesn't make sense if he was coming up behind him from the right. the wound would be on the left like the report says.

[bigtree]

20. he "followed the bird by line of sight in a counterclockwise direction"

according to the police report. To the left. That's what I believe Cheney's statement was.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0216061cheney1.html

[daleo]

8. The police just took Cheney et al at their word

The ranch seems to be in what the English called a "rotten borough" in the early 1800's. I doubt that the police bother looking into the activities of the aristocrats with much vigor.

[intheflow]

9. I have to say...

I was thinking he looked pretty chipper for a guy who was shot several days ago and then suffered a heart attack. I mean, yes, he had heavy make-up on, but even still. It certainly occurred to me that he might be a body double.

:tinfoilhat:

[Stephanie]

10. Maybe the cop is just stupid?

He's gullible, to say the least. Maybe he's just an idiot in general.

[Justice Is Comin]

19. You probably hit it.

The cop was probably thinking right side and looking at the paper, he put the injury indication on the right side of the paper.

What care this Sheriffs department takes to preserve accuracy of what could be the most famous shooting in history.

[On the Road]

26. I Believe Cheney's Account of the Incident

also described the wound in terms of the observer rather than the victim.

[nickinSTL]

12. "HOW IN THE HELL did shot reach his heart if he was HIT on his RIGHT SIDE"

Well, the fact is, that there are still plenty of blood vessels on the right side of the head/neck/torso. The heart isn't really on the left side, after all, it's just off-center a bit to the left.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

17. Oops see my post 16 below, I meant to reply to you.

[janx]

18. Yes. It's entirely possible that some shot landed

near his heart; they did say that it traveled to his heart muscle.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

22. Almost certainly he had some implanted directly INTO the heart muscle in

the original blast. "Heart attack" or myocardial infarction, just refers to heart tissue dying, the dying cells release enzymes in the blood you can test for. Since his coronary arteries (blood vessels supplying the heart) were supposedly okay on his cath study, presumably the "heart attack" was from direct destruction of a piece of his heart from birdshot blasting into it.

[dogday]

14. I shot Harry and I never saw the deputy....................

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

16. If the blast pattern was anywhere near the midline of the body, it could

easily get to his heart. The apex, or "beat" of the heart is on the left, but the thing is the size of a fist sitting behind your breastbone.

[nickinSTL]

33. I know...as I said in the text of my message

my subject line was a quote from the OP

[sui generis]

21. If they were working on his left side he was rolled onto his right

blood travels according to gravity - it basically runs along the fascia under the skin and creates streaks of bruising. He may also have fallen onto his right side, causing the bruising. I imagine they gave him some clotting inhibitors if he's not already on something like that already - that makes easy bruising much more prevalent too.

That's why sometimes just a scratch on your cheekbone can give you a black eye, and why people who have major thoracic or abdominal surgery often end up with black and blue legs and ankles.

[Blue Diadem]

23. I read somewhere today..wish I could remember..that the parks people

are the ones who made the error.

On the SMokingGun website you can see they actually wrote right side however they marked the left side on the figure facing forward. They did get the side view correct. Pretty stupid mistake.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney1.html

edited to add link.

[Der Blaue Engel]

24. I'm confused...did the police report say left side or right side?

Because it sounds like you're saying right side. If so, I don't get how the photo is wrong...maybe it's my eyes, but it looks like the swelling and bruising is on his right side to me.

:shrug:

[bigtree]

25. how did that happen with Cheney swinging to the left as he described?

the park and wildlife report has a diagram showing the injuries on the left. It describes them as on the right.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney1.html

[Der Blaue Engel]

29. Well that right there makes no sense

What are they, keystone cops? They don't know left from right? Seems like the diagram is there to make it clear which side, since they're (supposedly) looking right at the victim. So the person filling out the report is clearly a moron...scary.

The officer was Captain Kirk! OMG! :rofl:

[zbdent]

27. Simple - the "Registered Democrat" Sheriff never bothered to

check . . . wonder if he's a "registered Dem" just so they can eff up the primaries?

[berni_mccoy]

32. Hey Didn't SOME MSM show put together a 3-D computer model

With the pellets on Whittington's LEFT side... it was supposedly constructed from information RELEASED BY THE DOCTORS!