Clark/Feingold

[Skidmore]

Clark/Edwards
Feingold/Edwards

These are tickets I would endorse in 08. Mostly a ticket with Clark on it because the next president is going to have to repair the miliatary and to have some idea of how it works. And he'll need a strong partner to repair the domestic affairs of the nation. Clark has experience with nation building and we need to rebuild our own nation.

[Sugarcoated]

1. How about

Clark/Feingold or Feingold/Clark?

[Sammy Pepys]

2. I like Feingold/M. Warner

Don't know why, though.....

[Skidmore]

5. I think we need to rebuild the miliatary after the neocons

have ripped it up. We need someone who knows the miliatary very well and has compassion for the private and a sense of decency. Clark needs to be on the ticket.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. We need someone with international experience

It will take a lot of diplomacy to get the US back to its position of esteem in the world. Has Clark done things on an international level that wasn't connected to the military? Just curious.

[Skidmore]

7. I believe his role as commander in NATO required a great

deal of diplomatic interactions. I don't see being a general as being exclusionary.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

8. I didn't make myself clear

one of the downsides of DUing while at work!

What I meant was has he been doing anything internationally since his retirement, or has he focused mainly on domestic issues?

[Adelante]

4. Clark/Feingold

That's my ticket! :)

[nickinSTL]

9. THAT'S a ticket I would LOVE to see

I'd work my @$$ off for that ticket! Happily!

:thumbsup:

[cascadiance]

18. Cool, but I would say Feingold/Clark....

Just like the campaign finance reform bill should have been Feingold/McCain... Need to have him at the top of the ticket to lead the fight on some REAL campaign finance reform, which really should be the NUMERO UNO priority after we get rid of this cabal from power.

[tatertop]

6. Gore/Feingold

[MadJohnShaft]

13. Gore/Clark

[tatertop]

20. Fair enough

[dysfunctional press]

10. why worry about candidates for 2008 NOW...???

how many people outside arkansas had even heard of Bill Clinton before the primaries in 1992?
i don't understand why so many people think that we have to pick a candidate from the usual bunch of suspects, especially over two and a half years away from the election...

[laheina]

23. One word.

$$Money$$

To compete with the repuglican war chest, we are going to have to have a credible candidate collecting donations in the near future. People are more apt to give donations to a good candidate than to a party with questionable leadership.

[dysfunctional press]

27. right now, the money/effort should be going to congressional candidates-

personally, i won't even consider donating time OR money to a presidential candidate until 2008.

the campaign "season" in this country is already too long- we should be working to shorten it, not lengthen it by years.

and no matter WHO the candidate is, or when they start fundraising- the puke candidate will ALWAYS have more...if it's about $$MONEY$$, we lose. we need to make it about grass-roots.
we have the tools, and the technology- it's called the internet...after all, what is all the $$MONEY$$ needed for...? Television advertising is probably the main answer to the money question.
we have two-plus years to make television advertising in presidential elections obsolete.

[laheina]

28. You're preaching to the choir.

"right now, the money/effort should be going to congressional candidates-
personally, i won't even consider donating time OR money to a presidential candidate until 2008."

And after the congressional elections? Then they are going to have to start planning and getting set up, which takes money. It isn't as compartmentalized as you make it seem, even if there wasn't as much money involved as there is. We've lost the benefit of going back to life as usual-so I hope that you and your $$money$$ are having fun between the congressional elections and 2008--that's why we are losing.

"the campaign "season" in this country is already too long- we should be working to shorten it, not lengthen it by years."

Agreed, but one of the things that the repugs have us on is the lack of a sustained long term vision. Their planning for what is going on now started over ten years ago--which is why we are having so much trouble breaking their hegemony. They have an established echo chamber and system of "think tanks" with big money backing. They are networked and focused.

"and no matter WHO the candidate is, or when they start fundraising- the puke candidate will ALWAYS have more...if it's about $$MONEY$$, we lose. we need to make it about grass-roots.
we have the tools, and the technology- it's called the internet...after all, what is all the $$MONEY$$ needed for...? Television advertising is probably the main answer to the money question.
we have two-plus years to make television advertising in presidential elections obsolete."

Good luck with that! We need both grass-roots involvement and funding, because we have numbers on our side. Dean's campaign showed that we can battle them on both fronts. Now we need to learn how to manage it better.

We both the way that it should be, and while ideals are nice, we have to start dealing with how it *is.* We have worse things to worry about at the moment than campaign finance reform. That's for when we can do something about it. And when you're done polishing your GD attitude with your idealized generalities, then maybe you can help us fix it instead of telling me how it *should* be.

[Radical Activist]

11. Put Edwards and Feingold on a ticket and I'm convinced we'll win.

They both have great economic populist messages and can appeal to voters in between the coasts.

[Skidmore]

12. I think we need a populist message combined with a common

sense approach to repairing the harm done to our national security and our miliatary by two terms of neocons. We can't ignore that. I don't think we need a war agenda but we do need to secure the nation and restore the balance between civil rights and protection.

[Radical Activist]

14. "common sense approach" is a cliche that no longer has meaning.

Its a slogan not an agenda. Its the kind of language used by candidates with no record who don't want to get specific.

[Skidmore]

15. Excuse me. I'm not a poltical candidate or a political operative,

just a concerned citizen. I would expect a ticket to be fronted which could convey a specific agenda. I would hope that is what the primary and convention process would be used for. We do need to get control of the miliatary, its budget, and reverse Rummy's video game strategies. And we still need to secure our nation. That cannot be igorned.

[woodsprite]

16. OK, while we're fantasizing, I'll give you an

Edwards/Feingold ticket.

Clark for Secretary of Defense
Kerry for Attorney General
Boxer for Secretary of State
Conyers as House Majority Leader (can he still be head of the Judiciary committee?)
Kennedy as Senate Majority Leader
Carper (or someone better) for head of EPA (hey - gotta get someone in there from Delaware and it ain't gonna be Biden)


Edited to add: No, No, Gore for EPA!!!!

[Skidmore]

17. Okay. I consider it.

[Radical Activist]

19. Sounds good but,

I'd put RFK Jr. in as head of EPA.
Dick Durbin as Majority Leader
Gore for Secretary of State
Kucinich or Howard Zinn as Secretary of Peace.

hehehe

[laheina]

25. Bobby Jr.

would be an awesome head of the EPA. :)

[saltpoint]

21. You've chosen 3 very capable souls from whom the nation could

learn much.

We are in need of good teachers now, especially in the wake of two terms by dumbed-down, rat-souled monsters.

If the three folks you've listed show up on the Dem. ticket next time, in any order, they'll have my vote.

I'm in emotional exile under BushCo and would feel my citizenship spiritually restored with clear & true candidates, 3 of whom you've put before us.

[Maru Kitteh]

22. You just made my heart jump

from your keyboard to God's ears.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. I'll take Gore/Feingold as my top choice

But I could live with any of those. I'd love to see Russ on the ticket.

[upi402]

26. either for me

although i want to see R's spitting Chicklets and blowing snot bubbles out their noses.
:spank: :spank: :spank: