Ed Shultz

[raysr]

trashed Murtha? WTF? Nightline Appearance. I must admit I've never listened to Shultz. I see that some of you here have. What's up?

[sleipnir]

1. Simple answer. He's a Corporate Whore.

He's nothing less than a shill for the corporate system that is destroying America.

[JDPriestly]

2. Shultz has some rather conservative views but is

basically pretty cool.

[ncteechur]

3. I heard his show today. He gave Murtha the what for for saying he would

not enlist in this army. But my opinion is that Murtha has earned the right to say anything he wants about the military. Ed Schultz, who I agree with many times, didn't serve and has not earned any right to criticize Murtha.

[driver8]

4. I listen Ed Shultz quite frequently, but he pissed me off today.

He states that he doesn't support shrub and his policies but he has no problems with our young men and women signing up to fight in this criminal act. Murtha told the truth as he sees it -- I feel the same way. Who in their right mind would want to enlist so they can serve two or three tours in that hell hole? I'm sure that if there was no draft during Vietnam, young men would not have been lining up for that conflict, either.

Ed blew Murtha's comments way out of proportion and then proceeded to make himself look like a rethug piece of shit.

[FreedomAngel82]

29. Something that is strange with me

is that he claims to support Cindy Sheehan but she says the same thing(s) as Murtha. So why doesn't he support Murtha? It makes me wonder. I have listened to him once when I found out about him on DU and he gives me weird feelings. :shrug: I'm very confused by him. Plus, he sounds a lot like Rush Limbaugh which is just weird.

[AntiCoup2K4]

5. Just another DLC toady

Doesn't deserve to be stealing valuable afternoon airtime from real Liberals like Randi Rhodes.

[DaveinMD]

7. another example

of the purity test at work. Schultz is a good host and converts lots of middle American with his brand of populism. Hardly a DLC toady.

[QC]

21. But you don't understand! He's IMPURE!!! IMPURE, I tell you!!! n/t

[LincolnMcGrath]

10. LOL!

A GOP Toady wrapped in Reagan Democrat's clothing.

[LittleClarkie]

11. Hey, that "DLC toady" was the only liberal radio host I know of who

went down to support Cindy in Crawford. He had her on his show almost every day as well.

He has value.

[jobycom]

15. Randi went to Crawford, and she didn't oppose abortion or gay marriage

to do it.

He has a place. Anyone who is against Bush is my buddy these days. But he's not my best buddy.

[LittleClarkie]

40. I stand corrected

my main point was that he's not a Republican toady. Just sorta centrist is all. I can disagree with the guy without thinking he's a plant or something. That was the point.

[jobycom]

47. Good point. nt

[FreedomAngel82]

33. Oh please

Mike Malloy had her on his show before Crawford. And Brad Friedman was down in Crawford too.

[LittleClarkie]

42. Excuse me. I stand corrected. Still and all

Big Eddie is far from being a toady. Just a centrist. Not the same thing, though I know some here would disagree ;)

He has his place and he isn't worthless.

That said, I don't like the way he's treated Dean in the past, and I do think the Murtha comments were out of line.

You'll be happy to note that I went over to his messageboard, and the posters there are giving him what for, and how. One of them told him to get his head out of his ass. I can only imagine the emails he's getting over what he said. I expect he will have something to say about it tomorrow.

[Lex]

6. The DU thread from earlier will help with details.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x41941

[jsamuel]

8. Should we actively work against him?

Randi is great and belongs everywhere he is played instead.

[tatertop]

12. I think we should actively work against him

Randi is the real deal

[QC]

28. One person cannot reach everybody.

There are people Schultz can reach whom Rhodes cannot. Is it more important to get people on our sides or to keep everything ideologically pure?

For my part, I think they're both arrogant, self-absorbed windbags, but there's no accounting for taste.

[jsamuel]

32. well, if he is boasting about being number 1 over Randi, then that is

a problem.

Maybe we can't make the radio "ideologically pure" but we can improve the message as best we can on a daily basis. That is exactly why Air America was started in the first place.

[tularetom]

9. I like big Eddie but you know what

I wouldn't sign up today either and I don't blame any kid who says "fuck it".

[jobycom]

13. I'm not a huge fan of either Schultz or Murtha

Murtha was a big supporter of the invasion until recently, and his record is moderate, at best. Schultz admits he was a Republican until recently, and I've never found his conversion story particularly moving.

On Murtha, I respect his military record, and him personally. He votes his conscience, and has the courage to admit when he realizes he is wrong.

Schultz is critical of Bush, so he's on my side at the moment. But I don't get enthused by his message. He's against abortion and gay marriage, which to me kicks him out of the liberal club.

[jsamuel]

14. sure, but Schultz didn't criticize Murtha until Murtha started speaking

out against the war.

Is that liberal? NOPE

[jobycom]

16. True. nt.

[Lex]

18. Schultz isn't a liberal nor has he ever pretended to be. nt

[jsamuel]

19. really? - "I am the number one liberal on the radio right now."

pharaphrased from another thread which states he said this today

[Lex]

20. Sorry. I don't buy it. He often states he is a progressive

on most issues and moderate on a few others.

"Ed's "Straight Talk from the Heartland" makes him a 21st Century Teddy Roosevelt who believes the salvation of the American people lies in their voices, not in the parties. He represents the thousands of Americans whose collective beliefs are the foundation of the United States." --from his website

[LincolnMcGrath]

23. Will you buy this?

He has said numerous times that he is 'slightly left of center'.

He has also said on numerous times that he is the #1 Liberal on the radio.



Also; Can you list the issues he is progressive on?

[Lex]

25. Slightly left of center does NOT equal liberal.

I've never heard him say he is the #1 Liberal on the radio. Sorry, I just haven't.

If you go to his website, you can find out more about what his take on the issue are.

[Rainscents]

27. Yes, he did make LIBERAL comment today!

[LincolnMcGrath]

30. YOU said he was progressive.

Of course I know 'slightly left of center' doesn't equal liberal or progressive.

[Lex]

31. HE said progressive (on his website and on his show).

[LincolnMcGrath]

34. No he did not.

[Lex]

36. Well, if you go to his website, you'll see it with your own eyes.

It's at the top of his website in big letters.

[LincolnMcGrath]

37. Oh, well then it must be true.

Answer the question if you will. What issues is Big Ed progressive on?

P.S. What swag are you going to buy me from the DU Store when audio of Big Ed claiming to be a Liberal is posted here on DU. I need a new mug. (The Big One)

[Lex]

38. Sorry, not my job to look these things up for you.

All I stated was that he describes HIMSELF on his website and his show as PROGRESSIVE. You can easily look it up. I will not do it for you.

Your gripe, despite what you think, isn't with me, but with him.


Start watching your mailbox for your mug, ya'hear?

[LincolnMcGrath]

41. "Schultz isn't a liberal nor has he ever pretended to be."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=45405&mesg_id=45718

[Lex]

44. Exactly. Go to his website & see for yourself! You're proving my point!

At the top of his website and on his show he describes himself as progressive. Do you see the word liberal there?

You can go to his website and prove it to yourself.

[LincolnMcGrath]

45. You're missing the point, on purpose I think.

More than one person has told you he often claims to be a liberal on the air. You said this wasn't true.

I couldn't give two shits what his website says. Hannity's website claims he is "tuned in to america".

[Lex]

48. Goodnight. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Peace.

[oldgrowth]

49. What his main tag line for his show is I'm a meat eating gun toting

Liberal???

[FreedomAngel82]

35. Number one liberal?

Uh I think Stephanie Miller has better raitings where she's at. In DC she's number one I know that.

[LittleClarkie]

43. I think Ed is referring to stations

I suspect he's probably right in that regard. Rating are another matter, I'm sure.

[Pushed To The Left]

50. Here are some of his more progressive stances

He is strongly opposed to the war in Iraq

He's a big supporter of Cindy Sheehan

He was torn on ANWR drilling, but came out against it after discussing it with listeners

He strongly opposed CAFTA

He is extremely supportive of Democratic candidates across the country

He's not as liberal as some of the other hosts, but he is not even close to being right wing. He reminds me of Harry Reid: closer to the center than some, but a strong fighter for Democratic and progressive causes.

[jsamuel]

24. let me link you to the original poster since I didn't hear this myself

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x45379#45466

[Lex]

26. Thanks jsamuel.

I've just never heard him describe himself as a liberal, ever.

[LincolnMcGrath]

39. Why the edit?

[zapp]

22. I think Ed is arrogant and a blowhard.. like the person....

he pretends to be.

He has an audience, sure. I just don't care for his brand of smugness.

[David__77]

17. Murtha is 100% right.

I bear no special grudge against Schultz, but he is wrong. He is only serving those who want a "loyal opposition," i.e., a tame, politically castrated opposition. This war is unjust and immoral. What person who values justice would abet such a thing?

[LittleClarkie]

46. Indeed. And the posters on his message board are letting him know that

These are fans, mind you. But last I looked, they weren't being shy about telling him to get his head out of his ass on this subject.

[beltanefauve]

51. More often than not

I've heard him use the term "lefty" rather than "liberal", both in describing himself and his listeners. Seems he gets more wiggle room that way.