It's Fairly Obvious Whittington Mispoke Isn't It?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

I mean seriously, is there any logic whatsoever to thinking for a second that maybe the accident happened on Friday and not Saturday? It makes absolutely no sense to think any deeper than a simple misstatement. Had it happened on Friday, don't ya think the hospital would've kinda questioned the lack of freshness to the wounds? Don't you think it would've been fairly obvious that it had been over 24 hours until he had been admitted? Actually, I'm not even gonna go on and on. I know this story has had so many twists and turns that it's hard to know what's real and what's not anymore, but c'mon guys, thinking for a second the conspiracy is to the degree that it REALLY happened on Friday does nothing but make us look immensely silly in my opinion. Not a doubt in my mind it happened on Saturday.

Peace.

[EarlG]

1. Most likely he misspoke

More importantly....

Was Cheney drinking?

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[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

8. :) Absolutely

I can't read any further than the latest page at work cause the boards are blocked from our web (damn access denied message) but I was thrilled that Skinner's thread was top of the front page articles. I thought it was one of the best threads of strategy yet and you and he are correct, that is the only real question we need to keep nailing home, over and over. That one in itself has more legs than any other question we can come up with when considering resonating value (even far more than the value of asking who was that woman with him in my opinion).

:thumbsup:

[whateveritis]

2. The guy has made his statement

:thumbsup:

[SpiralHawk]

3. When you see the shifty reaction of the people behind Whittington

you naturally become highly suspicious of what exactly he meant by "Friday," and why that word might be so profoundly unsettling to the people with him,

In my view, it way too damn early to put a cork in the forensics of Fuddgate.

[Scout1071]

7. Couldn't it just be because the guy knew he misspoke?

[Scout1071]

4. I wholly agree.

Thank you for pointing this out. I had been debating starting a similar thread.

He misspoke. There are so many things that need to be investigated related to this shooting and the lobbyist gathering, but this is not one of them.

[thinkingwoman]

5. I agree

I say the wrong thing all the time...and I haven't been shot in the face. I think, given what he's been through, and his age, it was a simple mistake.

[Steve A Play]

6. Sure! Lawyers reading from written statements

do it all the time! :sarcasm: :rofl:

[SpiralHawk]

10. As if White House controllers weren't All Over the statement

before it got put into Whittington's hands.

As if...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. You Defeat Your Own Logic, With All Due Respect.

The fact people keep saying that it was a written statement and a lawyer wouldn't screw that up only lends credence to the reality that it was an obvious misspoken statement. You think whoever prepared that statement would've not known the day of the cover story? Seriously? That concept would be even more highly improbably than if he hadn't had a written statement.

More importantly though, was cheney drinking?

[Scout1071]

17. We know he was drinking - per his own statement.

The question is, how much did he drink?

[marions ghost]

21. logically

speaking ...

It is JUST as logical to say that Whittington "mis-spoke" --meaning he forgot the lie that he had rehearsed. Oops.

--OR that somehow it was a "misprint" on the page he was reading from.

These scenarios are just as possible as chalking it up to a mere slip of the tongue due to age and trauma. When people go through this kind of trauma, they can have a hyper-focus on the event and the details may not be so fuzzy as you would think. Without further corroboration from the victim, we just don't know.

We just don't know. That is the ONLY possible conclusion at this point. It's all opinion.

The immediate media reaction to alter or delete the line within minutes is indicative of a concerted attempt to bury the evidence--as we have seen them do all too often.

[Libby2]

9. I don't know, did you see the look

on the face of the guy behind him?

The one that had the strange smirk?

It was like......uh-oh.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

14. Wasn't it the same look every one of us had? That look of

"friday? What's the old kook talking about?"

[marions ghost]

20. no

it wiped the smirk right off that guy's face. More like ho-ly shi-it.

And Mr. Whittington did not come off like an old kook. He came off like a tough old bird who'd been through hell. But he was very clear.

[Libby2]

12. I also heard

where he wouldn't give a taped statement to police, because his voice was "scratchy."
So, they then asked for a written statement, which he said he would supply monday.

It must have been CNN where I heard that.

[Catherine Vincent]

13. I agree. I blame age.

[NanceGreggs]

15. It's possible he mis-spoke.

It's also possible that it did happen on Friday, and he said so inadvertently, from memory rather than his notes.

As for the hospital not commenting on the fact (or non-fact) that the wounds weren't fresh, the hospital never commented, one way or the other, on their diagnosis of when the injuries occurred.

I'm not harping on it - it's just that every other detail of this story is (pun intended) a moving target.

If this happened on Friday, he might have been 'treated' at the ranch for 24 hours, in hopes that would be sufficient. And then, by Saturday night, it appeared he was worsening so they called for an ambulance.

If THAT'S the scenario, Cheney was extremely NEGLIGENT in not getting him to the hospital forthwith - another detail the VP would want left out of the official story.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

19. Ok, But Then Why The Additional Delay?

Doesn't that then blow the other theory about the delay being due to Cheney drinking out of the water? That would mean he didn't need that time to sober up then right?

And what would the additional delay been for then, possibly just waiting to see if he'd die or not?

If I had a choice of pushing one theory over another, I'd far more like to keep the "was cheney drinking?" meme going than this one.

[daleo]

16. Another reason for testimony under oath about the whole thing

Too many little (and big) things don't add up. This is just one more.

[spuddonna]

18. And to clear this up all that has to happen is for some reporter to ask...

One phone call to Mr. Whittington is all it would take.

I don't think that's too much to ask. The reporters seem to have no trouble speaking on his behalf. The Reuters reporter said "he meant Saturday", so maybe he can clear all this up.

[Raine]

22. Whether he did or not

that is what is going to be accepted, the Friday thing doesn't have legs. x(