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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:59 AM
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The GOP piefight: Bush spying on Republicans; faces lawsuit
The GOP piefight: Bush spying on Republicans; faces lawsuit.
by Eternal Hope
Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 08:16:34 PM PDT

The extent of the Bush administration's illegal wiretaps is astounding. They have gotten so out of control and so drunk with power that they have started targeting Republicans whom they think might be disloyal. And now, one of them is fighting back with a lawsuit.

Scott Tooley used to be a typical hotshot Republican success story. He was helped through the vast networks of Fundamentalist universities and landed a job as a Congressional aide. But now, he is filing suit after alleging that he was placed on the Bush administration's watch-lists. He furthermore alleges that the NSA put stickers on his car so they could track his movements. He is helped in this suit by Larry Klayman, a one-time chairman of Judicial Watch, a right-wing judicial advocacy group.

read more at:
http://newsblaze.com/story/20060217114414nnnn.nb/newsblaze/TOPSTORY/Top-Story.html
via:http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/17/221634/419
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:01 AM
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1. In Other Words
They only care when it's them involved.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:03 AM
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2. That's the definition of a conservative.
Yup.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:07 AM
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3. Who cares if that is their attitude.
I love it when an party member takes them on, they have more inside resources than we do..

I just love it that he has filed suit. I just hope he is very, very careful. No small planes, always wears his seat belt, walks with a crowd across the street and never alone. That he has recorded his statement before a authorized officer of the court while video taped and, for the sake of his family, that he has a very hefty life insurance policy.

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:10 AM
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5. Oh... I Agree
It was more of a jibe at the GOP and the "Conservative" mentality.

I'm glad a GOPer is involved.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:25 AM
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8. I agree with you about their sucky attitudes.
They would rather protect the party than do what is right for the nation.

I'm not so sure if its out of fear or thirst for power or both. They see what is done to enemies and they don't want their lives ruined, so they toe the line.

Hell, I even understand Whittington taking up for deadeye Dick. Shit, he shot him as a friend and is getting away with it, just imagine what he would do if he were an enemy. :scared:

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:06 AM
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13. I wish they'd ALL go hunting with each other regularly
:D



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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:18 AM
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14. Hello Swampy
It's good to see you. :hug:

How are things going your way? You ready for next weekend?

:loveya:

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:25 AM
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15. Way'at merh!!
:hug:

What's next weekend? I have a to play next weekend in the Quarter.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:31 AM
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16. Isn't that the big weekend of Mardi Gras festivities?
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 11:32 AM by merh
I wish I could come listen to you play.

Let the good times roll, my friend. You are so entitled to them. :hug:

:loveya:

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:44 AM
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17. I just saw a guy on CNN say last night was the first of the year - BS!
I was was IN the first parade of the year last weekend! :eyes: Almost everything that was just said in CNN about Mardi Gras was WRONG!

:hug:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:48 AM
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18. What a shocker.
The MSM distorting the truth.

I'm afraid they will try to make it look like you guys are doing okay and don't need any more help.

Living in the forgotten Katrina lands is not easy. Katrina Fatigue affects each one of the survivors but it is so very different than the Katrina Fatigue/Apathy of the nation (and even many on DU).

Enjoy yourself and live! :hug: :loveya:

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:02 PM
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19. The asshole was questioning why we are having Mardi Gras when there
is so much devastation, but what seemed most important to him was the idea that it costs money to have Mardi Gras and less than 1/3 of the revenue would roll in this year. See, these MSM fascists ONLY care about profit, not humans or cultural rituals. The idiot doesn't seem to understand that WE NEED EVERY PENNY of income from Mardi Gras tourism. Most of the money in New Orleans right now is being made by carpet-bagger, Texas contractors with their Mexican slaves, so we desperately need Mardi Gras revenue.

I hope things are getting better for you. :hug: I still don't have gas heat and hot water, but at least I have electricity most of the time. At least I am back in school. :)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:11 PM
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20. Glad you have electricity most of the time
and that you are back in school. Also so very glad that you are celebrating life and keeping the spirit of NOLA alive.

Outsiders have no idea what the celebrations mean to us, not just the tax revenues, but that we can be happy for a time and forget what we have seen and take a break from what we have to do.

At this end we have the gamblers and gawkers, tour buses that drive 15 miles an hour to photograph the devastation and then drop the camera clad folks off to gamble. As long as they bring in the tax base, I have no problem with it and I'm trying to figure out how to profit from it.

The carpet-baggers shouldn't be the only ones making a living/profit from our pains. We are having the problem with land speculators. Folks can't get any money from insurance or FEMA or the SBA and after almost 6 months, are too tired to keep trying. So they sell out just so they have hope of having a real life again. (Femansions leave a great deal to be desired.)

I also fear that eminent domain will be used to take lands for the corporations. We will be a condo coast line before you know it.

Les bon temps rolle, my sweet friend. Celebrate life! :hug: :loveya:

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:08 AM
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4. wont htis be grand if nsa putting sitckers on american citizens car
actually gets some movement and gets out there. because bushco's are mad at him and no other reason. this is a perfect story. i dont care of it is repug or the quakers. we have to have americans see nsa is used to abused. sounds like maher doesnt have problem with nsa. that was sad to me last night. i want people pissed at nsa
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:14 AM
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6. don't worry, we're pissed at their masters instead
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 10:31 AM by dusmcj
policy drives bureaucracy. policy is set by elected officials at the top of the shitheap. we know who they are. be pissed at the NSA because parts of its population facilitate our junior fascists and do it with enthusiasm. but don't forget to be pissed at the fascists. they need reliable dogs to do their dirty work. but the dogs are ultimately following orders.

the translation of this is that in this administration, the politicos are worse than the intel/national security bureaucracy. This may be a change from the days of COINTELPRO and CISPES (well, in some cases only) but it's nevertheless the state of affairs - just consider that CIA et al were consistently indicating that there was no WMD threat from Iraq but were browbeaten into delivering analysis saying otherwise, or just into delivering the raw data, so that those without qualifications but with an agenda could justify their preconceived policy choices. This is proven fact; the junior Bismarcks like Condi and Feith, the Nixon and Reagan apparatchiks like Rumjob, along with the apparently psychotic (rather maybe psychopathic, with "philosophical" legitimization) members of the Strauss/PNAC cell like Perle, Wolfmybitz, Abrams and Big Dick all left breadcrumb trails while they arranged for desired results to be stovepiped up to them without reference to the findings of those actually qualified to do analysis, and they left them mostly because they all can't get over themselves, which is really kind of funny.

Interesting thought: during Raygun's regime, Casey was the equivalent of the current insurgent politico hacks. So that "they" had one of their own actually running the show. Same with ladyboy J. Edgar. Now by contrast (in part maybe because the hacks, in particular the long-term hardcore nukem fascists like Perle, Abrams and Big Dick consistently carpetbombed the intel community with claims that it was a bunch of near-communist softies and fought turf wars with it) the intel community, at least from the Clinton/Tenet era look like moderates compared to what passes for policymakers in this administration. "316" Negroponte by contrast, is one of the old boys, and if his record from Central America translates forward, the fascist hacks will again have one of their own at the helm. Question is will the DNI post give him enough hands-on control to micromanage intel community operations to the scumbags' liking.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:23 AM
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7. what exactly are "RFID" tags that were put on his wifes car??
The suit alleges that RFID tags "that monitor their vehicle movements" were placed on his wife's car.

does anyone know what these tags are and wht they look like??
we need to all check our cars!!

and this is really unbelievable..if this man was being monitored..why were they put on his "wife's" car..she should file a suit as well!

this article should be used on freepers when they say..well i have nothing to hide...they can spy on me..


well..seems even freepers who have nothing to hide are going to have stuff put on their car..what exactly did the wife do to have "RFID" tags put on her car??

were her brakes messed with ..ask the freepers that..
was a recordig device put in her car??

how would you know????????????

must we all have to check over our cars each and every time we go to our cars..

i think i am going to begin to sing really awful in my car..at the top of my lungs...they better not be listening to me in my car..or they are going to get an ugly earful!

fly

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:00 AM
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12. Read up on them. They are gonna be EVERYWHERE soon enough
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 11:00 AM by havocmom
The clothes you buy, and SO much more will allow 'item' movement to be monitered. Your's too I supose

http://news.com.com/2010-1069-980325.html

The generic name for this technology is RFID, which stands for radio frequency identification. RFID tags are miniscule microchips, which already have shrunk to half the size of a grain of sand. They listen for a radio query and respond by transmitting their unique ID code. Most RFID tags have no batteries: They use the power from the initial radio signal to transmit their response.

You should become familiar with RFID technology because you'll be hearing much more about it soon. Retailers adore the concept, and CNET News.com's own Alorie Gilbert wrote last week about how Wal-Mart and the U.K.-based grocery chain Tesco are starting to install "smart shelves" with networked RFID readers. In what will become the largest test of the technology, consumer goods giant Gillette recently said it would purchase 500 million RFID tags from Alien Technology of Morgan Hill, Calif.

Alien Technology won't reveal how it charges for each tag, but industry estimates hover around 25 cents. The company does predict that in quantities of 1 billion, RFID tags will approach 10 cents each, and in lots of 10 billion, the industry's holy grail of 5 cents a tag.

It becomes unnervingly easy to imagine a scenario where everything you buy that's more expensive than a Snickers will sport RFID tags, which typically include a 64-bit unique identifier yielding about 18 thousand trillion possible values. KSW-Microtec, a German company, has invented washable RFID tags designed to be sewn into clothing. And according to EE Times, the European central bank is considering embedding RFID tags into banknotes by 2005.


Welcome to the brave new world. Now, chew your cud and doen't make trouble or the corporate cowboys will be on your ass!
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:38 AM
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9. perversity: is this a false-flag action to head off other, "real" suits ?
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 10:38 AM by dusmcj
given what a bunch of freaks these people are, the thought occurs whether this is a false-flag action by one of the boys to distract and draw fire. Specifically, the tactic being to provoke a reaction in those who might be inclined to take similar action of "haha, they screwed with one of their own and now he's burning them, we don't have to do anything". When nothing will come of it. Guess we'll have to see what happens.

I think this is prompted by the part about the RFID tags. To my knowledge those have limited range, so that making them useful would involve basically following people around. I.e., it would be a way to avoid letting them shake a tail, but it would require a tail - this is not some nonsense where satellites are tracking them based on a wal-mart inventory tag. It seems like a shaky story, if someone has details of cutting-edge RFID performance and capability, please share.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:40 AM
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10. This man is obviously a #2 Al-Queda leader.
Seriously, if he did nothing wrong, he has nothing to fear. Or so we have been told. :sarcasm:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:52 AM
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11. Larry Klayman is a real pain in the ass..Hope he is to Bush* as much as to
Clinton. He is a very partisan Republican but needs the spotlight...Who else can he attack? GOP has all the power..
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