The tipping point is different for each individual. What is yours?

[Greenbeard]

What is your tipping point?

I have been asking this question to many folks lately. The most common answer is something like genocide on the scale seen in Rwanda. It seems almost incomprehensible that individuals will wait until mass numbers of people are being rounded up and killed before standing up. Personally I would rather avoid such a scenario.

The other most common answer is solid proof that the elections have been rigged. We need this proof desperately and must do all we can to shed some truth about election fraud this time around. Most are unaware of all the problems during the last election. Print off whatever information you can and pass it around. Many have no idea that there are even election fraud issues to be concerned about and even more don't know what Diebold refers to.

I think we often forget that many people do not do their research or pay nearly as much attention as we do. If we are to have any chance we must try our hardest to provide the necessary information to the masses.

I try to direct as many people as possible to Al Gore's speech made on the anniversery of MLK's assasination. Some read it and wake up a little to the control and power being sought by the executive branch. Many others are simply too apathetic and lazy to read 11 pages.

Many of us here are very close to our tipping point or have already reached it. If that is the case then you must do something. Anything. Personally I have just started to write a book entitled "A Letter to America."

Will measures such as these do any good? Will I be determined enough and fight the apathy long enough to finish it. Who can say, but I sure as hell know I better start to do something.

The hour is getting late

Good luck and Godspeed brothers and sisters.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Sounds like a good book to read

My tipping point? I could say it is long past, and yet still upcoming. During the leadup to the Iraq war, I had visions of the murder and misery that would ensue, and tried my utmost to find a way to stop it. But marching, LTTE, calls to Congress-none of it made any difference. It was like a tsunami swept over our country, changing not only the constitutional landscape but also the mindset of many Americans.

So I sit and contemplate, trying to focus myself, center on peace. Because recently I have had another vision. I won't speak more of it here, except to say that another tipping point is coming.

[xxqqqzme]

2. alito was mine

game over - every decision in the lower courts against the regime's policies and agenda, will now be taken by the regime to the supreme court, which will rule in the neo-fundiecons favor. Don't like that legislation recently passed?....take it to the court. alito was checkmate!

[upi402]

3. mine, 21 years past...

[blue cat]

4. I'm past my tipping point long ago

and I'm tipping again. I feel like I have lost faith in my country and my family for failing to acknowledge that there is even a problem. The Iraq war and Diebold were the main factors, among too many other problems too numerous to list. I'm sad this weekend, almost as bad as the days after 11-2-04.

[The Wielding Truth]

5. I must say I tipped in the 60's. It's strange that at a very young

age,under 10,I felt the oppression and secrecy. I would hear, only accidentally, the wild truths of hidden society. The crude frightened problems that were only revealed in glimpses of sloppy actions or quiet
slips of truth. My home was open. I could share anything, any worry, any question with my mom, and except for my peers the truth was lurking behind smiles, white gloves, house dresses, button-up shirts and crew-cuts. I viewed the straggling greasers and their cigarettes rolled in their short sleeves not as rebels but as followers of a lower
expectation.
I remember waiting in the car for mom to get the groceries and being allowed to keep the radio on for a little bit so the battery wouldn't go dead,when I heard" I don't give a blank about a green back adolla; spend it fast as I can". The tipping point was already their.
Freedom will not be contained for long.Even as a child I knew, freedom is free for those who remember love, justice,and respect for all . Summed up in the Golden rule and the bill of rights.
That is why the way this country has changed really breaks my heart.There are better ways to live in a civilized world. We who thought that torture,propaganda,conspicuous consumption, and trading in the weakest among us for a christian parade,that we thought to be well in our painful past, are saddened.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

6. I think there are many small tipping points

before the big one...or to stay with the analogy, the bar moves down at increments. I am not sure personally I have completely tipped. I take that back. I know I HAVEN'T yet tipped, by my definition of the word.

Katrina was one for me; citizen spying; torture...and the arrogance of some of the religious right.

In order to actually "tip" (my definition of that is something that will bring me to ACTION and not just letter writing, talking, reading, etc.) it will have to be something I see with my own eyes in my own life. Whether it is my phone being tapped, or a future storm where I end up in a civic center with no water, or what it is...I can't envision.

Everything I read, see on TV, hear on the news, etc., is basically an abstract in my life as yet. But I am watching very carefully.

[xxqqqzme]

10. well, if it is something personally witnessed

then, for me, it was the secret service ripping up the "BUSH LIED - YOU'RE FIRED" 30' long pink slip Code Pink dropped from their balcony in the LA/Century City hotel where raisin brain was attending, yet another, fundraiser. Watching the fierceness of them coming through the hotel room door (from our angle we could see them), grabbing/yanking the slip up in2 the balcony and then ripping it up was something 2 behold. The looks on their faces...I'll never forget it, gritty determination, I could pracitally feel their clenched teeth (I was watching through my camera's zoom lens). Raisin brain was in a basement ballroom, 7 floors away! That 30' of fabric posed NO threat 2 his person ONLY the IMAGE. I had always had respect for the secret service detail that protects the president. It was all erased that afternoon. Take a bullet? maybe but that day it was an image they were protecting. It chilled me. As I watched, I thought, 'those are my rights they are ripping up'.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

11. That would indeed by scary

[ComerPerro]

7. I've already tipped. But I'm not angry. I just stopped caring

I post here now for the sheer entertainment value of it. This is a great group.

But I don't actually care anymore about stopping the fascists. They have seized total control, and there is nothing we can do.

I guess you could say they have broken my will. The fascists in the GOP, the lazy media, and the fucking stupid American public. They can go to hell and take the rest of the country with them, I just don't care.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

12. I hear you

I, too, have a feeling that some of this is inevitable. I just try and keep my personal life in balance.

[ComerPerro]

13. Yeah, that's all I really care about anymore

Mostly, my attitude toward politics and current events went from "Bush did WHAT? We gotta stop him!" to "Bush did WHAT? That's hilarious!!!"

[TallahasseeGrannie]

15. I know

and it isn't really funny, but that's a healthy attitude to have, given the helplessness we can feel.

[AnnInLa]

8. I think all DUers have already "tipped"....it's why

we're here....it's why we are considered the extreme, angry left. I prefer to think of us as "tipped," so thank you for the word.

The real question should be, "What is America's tipping point?" If America doesn't tip soon, then it isn't the America we were used to calling home.

[me b zola]

9. Katrina was my tipping point

Watching the way bush* handled the aftermath of Katrina has changed me. They (bush*s administration) intentionally left tens of thousands of people stranded without food, water, and medicine as many of them died. They treated the survivors as if they were the enemy from a foreign country who had invaded the US, meeting them with automatic weapons instead of lifegiving assistance.

I know now, beyond ANY doubt, how they feel about US. I am changed. This is no longer the United States that I know.

[shance]

14. Yes MBZ. I believe Katrina and 9-11 should tip every American.

Thanks for your post.