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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:12 PM
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In light of the sale of 6 US ports to the United Arab Emirates, PNAC VIDEO
I posted this a few months back but many DUers missed it - in light of the sale of 6 of our ports to the United Arab Emirates, this video about PNAC and the Carlyle Group is even more important than ever. EVERY AMERICAN needs to see this video. It is almost entirely in English - it aired on Dutch television on a program somewhat like our "60 Minutes" (approx an hour long):

http://www.vpro.nl/programma/tegenlicht/afleveringen/11838857/

On the right side of the page under "Video" are 2 links:

Bekijk de uitzending DE IJZEREN DRIEHOEK in realvideo (BREEDBAND tot 500 kbs) (Broadband)
Bekijk de uitzending DE IJZEREN DRIEHOEK in realvideo (SMALBAND, tot 100 kbs) (Dial up)


After you see that, watch this shorter film, also aired on Dutch TV (20 minutes)
http://www.tweevandaag.nl/call.php?module=PX_Video&func=get&vid=19381&vtype=rwb&startvideo=1

Please keep kicked - I'd hate to see this fall off the page too soon.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:14 PM
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1. kick...
but I will watch later.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:17 PM
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2. thanks!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:18 PM
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3. kick
should be interesting to watch, but if I wait until after I view it to post here, the thread may have already sunk out of sight!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:22 PM
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4. K & R. Here is a THREAD COMPILATION on the UAE/Dubai port sale - LINKS:
These are threads I have seen - there are probably many more, and I hope people will post links here for important missing threads and other information. I'll check for articles in the big papers later and post excerpts of any articles on this I find there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2454971
thread title (2-12-06 GD-P): 911 Bankers to Run SIX Major U.S. Ports—Dubai(UAE). IMPEACH NOW!!!
Comment/excerpt: “Six ports will be run and protected by a Dubai based port management company (DP World): New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia. The deal was approved by a “U.S. government panel coordinated out of the White House. Just prior to the deal, David C. Sanborn of Virginia was appointed as administrator of the Maritime Administration of the Transportation Department. Sanborn worked as DP World's director of operations for Europe and Latin America.…. A company in the United Arab Emirates is poised to take over significant operations at six American ports as part of a corporate sale, leaving a country with ties to the Sept. 11 hijackers with influence over a maritime industry considered vulnerable to terrorism.“

Even the freepers are upset about this outrage:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x446111
thread title (2-16-06 GD): Freepers JUST AS MAD About the Port Control Issue... Common Ground?
Comment/excerpt: Free Republic posts expressing concern/outrage over Dubai operating 6 major US ports.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x446003
thread title (2-16-06 GD): OK!!! I think the Pres. just cut his own throat!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2113537
thread title (2-16-06 LBN): White House Defends Port Operations Sale
Comment/excerpt: Yahoo News/AP. “The Bush administration on Thursday rebuffed criticism about potential security risks of a $6.8 billion sale that gives a company in the United Arab Emirates control over significant operations at six major American ports. Lawmakers asked the White House to reconsider the deal. The sale to state-owned Dubai Ports World was ‘rigorously reviewed’ by a U.S. committee that considers security threats when foreign companies seek to buy or invest in American industry, National Security Council spokesman Frederick Jones said….”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x453502
thread title (2-17-06 GD): Freeper and neocon websites unable to put a spin on the UAE port takeover
Comment/excerpt: COMPILATION post with many links and good explanation, for example of the role played by GOLD in the money trail to al Qaeda. Also that the United Arab Emirates were one of the THREE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT RECOGNIZED THE TALIBAN AS THE LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT OF AFGHANISTAN. Much more on the obvious security disaster this deal would be and why.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x452192
thread title (2-17-06 GD): Excellent! "Democrats plan bill to block Dubai-US port deal"
Comment/excerpt: Reuters: “Two U.S. Democratic senators said on Friday they would introduce legislation aimed at blocking Dubai Ports World from buying a company that operates several U.S. shipping ports because of security concerns. Robert Menendez of New Jersey and Hillary Clinton of New York said they would offer a measure to ban companies owned or controlled by foreign governments from acquiring U.S. port operations.” Hillary is calculating that the GOPs and Dems will like this position and it will boost her presidential chances, but I wouldn’t care WHO was calling for sanity in this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2115471
thread title (2-17-06 LBN): US Democrats plan bill to block Dubai-US port deal
Comment/excerpt: Cites same Reuters article as the preceding thread in GD.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x460075
thread title (2-18-06 GD): Please tell me why every other thread is not about the sale of the ports?

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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:22 PM
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5. k and r
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:22 PM
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6. Rats!
I have video problems on this computer that makes it time out whenever I listen to something for over two minutes. I thought it would let me watch this, but no luck. I'll have to try it later on another computer. What I made out from "reading" the page in Dutch makes it quite intriguing.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:25 PM
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18. I'm having the same problem
I'm no 'puter geek, so I have no idea why that would happen. All I know is it's annoying as all hell!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:25 PM
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25. Try the first link for smallband - that may help! :) If you've already
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:24 PM
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7. I suggest you write a summary of what the film shows and post it here
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 03:32 PM by Nothing Without Hope
I won't be able to watch it for a while so can't do that service.

Many more will watch it and act on it if they know what major points it covers.

Also consider sending a link and summary to Information Clearing House, BradBlog and Crooks & Liars. Information Clearing House may even already have it - will have to check. BradBlog and Crooks & Liars are good for for spreading the word on such things. A post at dKos would be good. Send summary and link to BuzzFlash. What the heck, email link to Keith Olbermann (KOlbermann@msnbc.com). And so on. Maybe you've already done these things.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:44 PM
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8. I found an excellent summary on this blog:
http://yblogza.com/2003_08_01_archive.html

On Friday May 16, 2003, the Dutch magazine programme, Tegenlicht, aired an investigative insert, De Ijzeren Driehoek, on Washington-based private-equity merchant bank, The Carlyle Group. Featuring Dan Briody, author of The Iron Triangle: Inside the Secret World of the Carlyle Group, and Tim Shorrock of The Nation, Tegenlicht interviews Charles Lewis of the Center for Public Integrity and Carlyle Group co-founder and former Marriott director Steve Norris.

The 48-minute RealPlayer documentary shows the mechanisms The Carlyle Group uses to dominate a world where wars are markets and people are worth only as much as they able or willing to further the interests of a fast-growing military-industrial elite. It ultimately raises the rather lame question, "Do we have a conflict of interests at work in global politics or do we have a new way of doing business?"

Briody, author of the provocative January 2002 Red Herring article Carlyle's Way offers background. Not subject to SEC rulings, Carlyle operates under a cloak of secrecy and is now the world's 11th or twelfth largest defense contractor, enjoying a multi-billion dollar annual turnover, "obscenely high profit margins" and controlling interests in many major defense, aerospace, communications and infrastructure firms in Asia, North America, Europe and the Middle East.

Bolstered by huge profits made off its sale of aerospace company Fairchild, Carlyle began operating in government-regulated industries, using former serving politicians as its front men. It has made its investors and those who work for it extremely wealthy. As Carlyle defense expert Frank Finelli points out at a select presentation, Carlyle's business is now to garner the largest slice of the US DoD's $380bn budget "pie".

Describing his 25 years working on every side of "The Iron Triangle" as "a lot of fun", Finelli and his business buddies are into what Dwight D. Eisenhower warned against, a military-industrial complex so large and powerful it directly influences the politics of war.

Briody takes center stage and introduces Steve Norris, whose statements openly back the reporter's contentions. Founded by Norris and former Carter aide David Rubenstein, Carlyle epitomises everything against which Eisenhower warned. To those operating at the confluence of big business, defense and politics, war is an excellent investment offering high returns.

With Norris and Rubenstein at the helm, Carlyle perfected its investment strategies. Its export of WMD and wholesale death to the highest bidder is now "the way things are around here".

Carlyle critic, Democratic congresswoman and conspiracy theorist Cynthia McKinney relates her run-in with Carlyle following criticism of the Bush administration's ignoring a defense panel review's rejection of United Defense Industries' Crusader missile . Next up is the Center for Public Integrity's Charles Lewis, who recounts Carlyle's rebuttal of his criticism of Bush Sr., supposedly a fine and decent man.

A new Mafia, far more powerful than those serving it, i.e. the United States federal government, its defense apparatus, and the countries in which Carlyle operates, holds the world in the palms of its bloodstained hands. Nowhere is this 'super government' more evident than in the horror engulfing the Middle East, Asia and Africa. Yet, in two years of Cheney favouring Halliburton, a similar time considering the implications of Carlyle and similar companies' revolving door policies, and more than enough time to sweep the likes of Enron under the carpet, Americans have remained unmoved. Most see no conflicts of interest.

"...the Good Lord didn't see fit to put oil and gas only where there are democratically elected regimes friendly to the United States. Occasionally we have to operate in places where, all things considered, one would normally not choose to go. But, we go where the business is."

Dick Cheney Blasphemer

Now that Americans have been told by their politicians that they are illegally occupying Iraq because it seems like a good way to spend upwards of $5bn monthly, it is this myopia, rather than any marriage of converging conveniences, that is the greatest problem facing Americans today.

The size and scope of Carlyle's investments and operations are what make it so dangerous. It owes its success to former Reagan Secretary of Defense and long-time Rumsfeld friend Frank Carlucci. Carlucci, capitalising on policies he set while in office, took Carlyle into the defense industry. Its fortunes boosted by the Gulf War, Carlucci brought on board George Bush Sr., James Baker III, Arthur Levitt of the SEC, Richard Darman, former White House budget director, William Kennard of the FCC, former British Prime Minister John Major, former Bundesbank chief Karl Otto Pohl, Eberhard Kuenheim of BMW, former Philippines president Fidel Ramos, and the former leaders of Thailand and South Korea.

It is here that the value of Tegenlicht's insert kicks in. Not satisfied with using their knowledge to predict global trends, the politicians waiting their next term on Capitol Hill earn their place on Carlyle's payroll by dictating those trends.

"I haven't been involved in a lot of venture deals where the participation of a president mattered that much."

Jack Biddle Novak Biddle Venture Partners

No civilised country would tolerate the close relationship Carlyle and, by practical extension, United States' president George W. Bush, enjoy with the Saudi royal family and its cohorts in terror, repression and murder. The behaviour of those setting the agenda of our global future is unconscionable at best and downright evil when taken at face value.

The documentary is thoroughly researched, well presented, and carries no trace of the conspiratorial. The facts speak for themselves. Sowing death, destruction and terror about the globe, George W. Bush and his power-crazed sidekicks, supporters and collaborators are everything they pretend others to be; namely, global terrorists bent on furthering selfish interests.

Returning to Tegenlicht's rather lame question, "Do we have a conflict of interests at work in global politics or do we have a new way of doing business?", I'd answer it with another. "Knowing the criminals running the United States are using conflicts of interest and a new way of doing business to their advantage, why the hell is the silence so deafening?"

"We're determined, as well, not to let murderers decide the future of the Middle East."

George W. Bush International Terrorist

If you're unable to view the Tegenlicht documentary, Carlyle's Way is essential reading. Alternatively, listen to Briody's NPR interview. While Tegenlicht offers a comprehensive rundown of the shadowy organisation's interests and front men, it is in Dutch. Here in Reality offers much the same information, as well as links to articles on Carlyle's nefarious business practices. Once past the gaudy banners at CarlyleGroup.Net, more detailed articles, including Tim Shorrock's Crony Capitalism Goes Global, give a thorough rundown on what should be common knowledge.

My interest in the subject is, of course, purely academic.

"Carlyle will always have to defend itself and will never be able to convince certain people that they aren't capable of forging murky backroom deals. George Bush's father does profit when the Carlyle Group profits, but to make the leap that the president would base decisions on that is to say that the president is corrupt."

David Snow Editor: PrivateEquityCentral.net

Indeed.

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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:16 PM
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22. ok..I know this is gonna sound crazy..but do you think that the Cheney
debaucle could have been to throw the country off the track of this..for Gods sake...this came out in the middle of the week...with final approval...OF THE SALE OF THE OPERATIONS OF OUR PORTS..to be completed on Monday...and everyone has been chasing the shooting story while we are about to be undone...again...do you think Whittington and Armstrong, et al have ties to the Carlyle group as well...

I know this sounds paranoid...but thats reasonable given this administration..
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:22 PM
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23. Well Whittington's wife is James Baker III's sister
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:25 PM
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24. hmmmph!!!!!!!!!!!....blood pressure will not go down today...nt
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:08 PM
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65. You may have a point
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 05:15 PM by libhill
but if you're correct, Whittington was set up, a victim, "collateral damage". I don't think any sane person would allow himself to be shot, just to further the Bush agenda. And what the hell is going on, that these asshats would sell U.S. ports to the enemy? This is positive proof that the "war on terror" is bullshit. If something like this had gone down during Clinton's Administration, the fucking Repukes would have been frothing at the mouth.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:27 PM
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26. Information Clearing House has it - I've not contacted the others
We should all do that - link it to the 6 ports being sold.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:39 PM
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45. Good news that Information Clearing House has it. Can you give a
link to its copy? I tried searching there with "DE IJZEREN DRIEHOEK" and, unsurprisingly, found no matches.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:32 AM
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47. here ya go!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:47 AM
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51. Thanks! And here's another Dubai sale thread - another suit has started:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2118357
thread title (2-18-06 LBN): Firm Sues to Block Foreign Port Takeover
Comment/excerpt: AP at Yahoo News and CBS – link in Reply #1. Excerpt: …“The Miami company, a subsidiary of Eller & Company Inc., presently is a business partner with London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., which Dubai Ports World purchased last week. In a lawsuit in Florida circuit court, the Miami subsidiary said that under the sale it will become an "involuntary partner" with Dubai's government and it may seek more than $10 million in damages. The Miami subsidiary, Continental Stevedoring & Terminals Inc., said the sale to Dubai was prohibited under its partnership agreement with the British firm and "may endanger the national security of the United States." It asked a judge to block the takeover and said it does not believe the company, Florida or the U.S. government can ensure Dubai Ports World's compliance with American security rules.” …
Reply #4 Cites and excerpts an important article on the Dubai sale in the Feb 12 Washington Post that describes the secretive process by which a government panel raised no objection to the sale:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/11/AR2006021101112.html

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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:55 PM
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9. thanks
recommending
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:01 PM
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10. K&R!
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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:08 PM
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11. Great video!
Thanks for posting it. You are right. Everyone needs to see it and discuss it wherever they can.
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flobee1 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:19 PM
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12. The real question is
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 04:37 PM by flobee1
what the hell can we do about it?

anything?

At this point I've started configuring my 401k to invest in whatever their latest policy may be, because these paople do absolutly nothing unless they stand to profit from it.
India's desire to go nuclear is a good example. I wondered why boosh was so eager to give India the green light while getting so worked up about Iran. Later, I found out that KBR would be involved in the power plants. With the recent Bush talk of America going more nuclear, I wonder if he's setting up KBR over here also?
I'm really curious to see what the port security/UAE tie in has with bushco's wallet. I wouldn't be at all suprised to find out its tied to the house of Saud

I'd really like to be able to invest in something like ethanol, but george would never let that kind of thing get off the ground.

Its not about security or terrorism-never has been
its all about the money
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:52 PM
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20. I'm wondering the same thing, and welcome to DU!
:toast:

Do the talk radio people talk about Carlyle? Who will tell the people of the US? Look what happened to Cynthia McKinney.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:32 PM
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27. took the words out of my mouth. Welcome to DU!
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:24 PM
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66. Bingo -
And USAma and ALciaDUH are tools of the Bushista regime.
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:42 PM
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13. K&R
!!!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:44 PM
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14. Welp, that's the real reason we invaded Iraq
right out there in the open in the last 5 minutes of the video. Not like we didn't already know, it's just creepy to hear someone talk about it so matter-of-factly. But I don't think it's just to lessen our ties with the Saudis - it will also present them with new investment opportunities. Once infrastructure is stable (if that ever happens), the oil exploration & processing will really kick in - that's what Cheney's Energy Commission meeting was about.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:47 PM
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16. i cringed every time Carlyles spokesperson called it an opportunity...nt
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:31 PM
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55. Yes, my jaw dropped first time I heard it said.
:wow:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:46 PM
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15. It is a very important film
This film and "Loose Change" I always recommend. There are some other good one's too at http://www.informationclearinghouse.info
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:46 PM
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34. Wow, I've Only Seen Exerpts Of That Before
So much to think about.

Thanks for the link Angel
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:05 PM
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17. The video works for me this time!
Thanks for posting this again. :hi:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:28 PM
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19. Is there a transcript anywhere?
I'm on dial-up and haven't been able to get it to work for me, even from the first time you posted this.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:57 PM
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40. I've been searching for one with no luck - I'm sorry!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:00 PM
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41. Thanks. Oh well, I'm sure something will surface eventually
in print and in English.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:03 PM
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42. Maybe on a day when I have nothing else to do. ;) The smallband link
doesn't work? Did you try the Information Clearing House one?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:15 PM
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43. No, not yet.
I get pretty discouraged with videos and streaming things because I seldom can get a strong enough connection to get anything coherent. I'm stuck with dial-up though because of where I live. The cable stops on the other side of the main road from where I live. I will try the Information Clearing House one though. I may get lucky.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:31 AM
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46. please let me know how that goes!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:24 PM
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61. I was able to get a good connection today and was able
to get the audio on your original link. It was worth the trouble. It certainly cleared up a lot of fuzzy areas about the Carlyle Group for me. The more we delve into the BFEE and the Saudi/ME connection, the dirtier and slimier we find that they are.

Thanks, helderhied!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:27 PM
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62. Glad you got that to work!
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vince3 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:03 PM
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21. Great Piece
Thanks so much.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:38 PM
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28. Don't forget to watch the 2nd video too!
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:00 PM
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29. Okay, I'm Behind, Is Carlyle Involved In The Port Sale?
Or how is this related to this story?

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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:18 PM
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30. one of the earlier threads made the connection between the dubai World Por
recognized the photo and name as being connected to the carlyle group..will try to find it...
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:20 PM
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31. ok heres the thread...
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:30 PM
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32. Thanks Xiamiam
I've now watched both vids, and read some of the compilation thread above.

I'm just appalled that Bush is allowing this. Selling our major ports to a company from UAE, is just phenomenol.

I don't even know what to say.

If this company is a Carlyle owned company, then I am leaning from LIHOP, to MIHOP on 9/11.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:35 PM
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33. i dont think its a carlyle owned co..but what the heck do i know...seems
however, there are a few who have decided to control all the money, the ports, etc of the world...strange bedfellows...and who gives a hoot who they have to kill or rob lie to cheat manipulate or mutilate and torture to do it...makes me sick...
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:51 PM
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35. kick
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:53 PM
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36. Kick your Kick!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:16 PM
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37. kick your kick!
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:20 PM
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38. K&R! K&R! K&R! K&R! K&R! K&R!
Selling 6 US ports to UAE, is like selling a crack house to Scott Wiedland!

Lu
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:55 PM
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39. LOVE your sig line!
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:36 AM
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48. taaaaaank you & back2ya!
I'm a master a cramming in more crap into a small space!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:37 AM
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49. Big fan of Randi's, what can I say?
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GreenPoet64 Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:35 PM
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44. Thank you! Excellent resource. K & R n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:40 AM
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50. Don't you think DU ought to have it's own indi media section for
these kinds of videos? Eventually I would love for DU to have it's own TV station. A girl can dream!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:18 AM
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52. It would be a wonderful addition, IMO.
:popcorn:

Peace.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:45 AM
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54. I'll PM Skinner (unless you're here luuuurking) :) LiveOakTx has
wonderful stuff on his site too but I would love a DU media room.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:31 AM
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77. I've PM'd Skinner - maybe we all should
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:15 AM
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53. k/r
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:06 PM
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56. Thank You for the link
kick and recommend.
I watched the first one, off to see the second.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:15 PM
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57. I love your nickname - thanks for watching these!
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:38 PM
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58. Thank You
The videos are a refirmation of what most here seem to know. It's also reassuring to simply witness it captured so well in these interviews.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:50 PM
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63. I have been impressed with many of the Dutch documentaries I've seen -
many air on LINK TV - I was fortunate enough to be able to see some while living in Holland (though it's so much easier to follow on LINK with the subtitles!). I am hoping tegenlicht will do a story about the 2004 election and how the exit polls did not match the vote result, and delve into the party relationships between the voting machine companies and the Republican party.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:53 PM
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59. that was AMAZING!
the photographic direction alone is reason to check this out. that was fantastic storytelling. errol morris-esque.

also -- now i'm terrified.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:14 PM
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60. LMAO - yea, me too!!
Sorry, had to laugh. Easier than crying. I too am scared.

The Buddha's Words on Kindness (Metta Sutta)

This is what should be done
By one who is skilled in goodness,
And who knows the path of peace:
Let them be able and upright,
Straightforward and gentle in speech.
Humble and not conceited,
Contented and easily satisfied.
Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways.
Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful,
Not proud and demanding in nature.
Let them not do the slightest thing
That the wise would later reprove.
Wishing: In gladness and in saftey,
May all beings be at ease.
Whatever living beings there may be;
Whether they are weak or strong, omitting none,
The great or the mighty, medium, short or small,
The seen and the unseen,
Those living near and far away,
Those born and to-be-born,
May all beings be at ease!

Let none deceive another,
Or despise any being in any state.
Let none through anger or ill-will
Wish harm upon another.
Even as a mother protects with her life
Her child, her only child,
So with a boundless heart
Should one cherish all living beings:
Radiating kindness over the entire world
Spreading upwards to the skies,
And downwards to the depths;
Outwards and unbounded,
Freed from hatred and ill-will.
Whether standing or walking, seated or lying down
Free from drowsiness,
One should sustain this recollection.
This is said to be the sublime abiding.
By not holding to fixed views,
The pure-hearted one, having clarity of vision,
Being freed from all sense desires,
Is not born again into this world.



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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:02 PM
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64. did this fall off the greatest page?
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 05:03 PM by helderheid
It was under the 3 stars and suddenly it's gone!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:17 PM
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67. Was it removed? Why would it have been? Anyone?
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 09:18 PM by helderheid
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 12:08 AM
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68. Bueller?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 12:10 AM
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69. I've asked the mods, still no response and it's still off the Greatest
page :shrug:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 12:31 AM
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70. has anyone else had this happen to them? This is a 1st for me.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:46 AM
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71. Feel SO stupid after getting the answer. Kick.
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:35 PM
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72. Thanx for video link
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:32 AM
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73. you are most welcome!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:38 AM
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74. you're a dumbass!
;)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:55 AM
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75. .
:popcorn:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 12:35 AM
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76. :)
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:34 AM
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78. kick
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