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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:18 PM
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So how long before Bush launches strikes against Iran?
And how will he get the sheeple behind him?

I would imagine that he would use the "Iran has nukes and will use them against us", but that argument has been used, and was proven false.

But I guess if you tell a big enough lie long enough, it becomes fact.

What do you guys think?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:22 PM
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1. The sheeple are already behind him
Even on DU a lot of people support air strikes now to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons ten years in the future.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:28 PM
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4. I think not!
A lot of is relative-compared to what? There is certainly no popular clamor here to bomb Iran.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:11 PM
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11. If I was Iran I'd want nukes too. Look at their geography.
How many countries bordering them or near them have nukes?
Russia
Pakistan
India
USA
China
Israel(?)
N Korea

Did I miss anybody?
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Hutchewon Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:23 PM
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2. I've been hearing for over a year that
the attacks will be next month. So we'll see. His Travesty will use fear and lies to get the sheeple behind him. That has been his formula since the get go.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:27 PM
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3. Between now and August.
He needs to have us fully entrenched before the November elections.
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:29 PM
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5. Before the bourse
of course. (sorry)
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:03 PM
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9. Of Course, LOL....n/t
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:35 PM
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6. He & the NeoCons will MIHOP another attck if they have to. nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:36 PM
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7. I'm thinking June - July time frame
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:50 PM
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8. One thing working against him
Unlike Iraq, Iran doesn't have a leader who is a household name in America, who everyone knows and hates. But then again, if he wants a war, the opinions of lesser people like us sure as hell won't stop him.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:06 PM
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10. My question is, with whom will he fight another war?
The military is stretched so thin already, servicemen and women are being rotated in and out of Iraq like there's a revolving door there, and people aren't exactly signing up in droves to join the military. I'm not saying Shrubby won't launch an attack if that's what floats his boat, but the reality is, we don't have enough military to get into a THIRD war while there are still two going on. Of course, now that I think about it, my point makes sense and, well, uh....never mind.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 03:47 AM
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23. You are forgetting where Iran's oil is
90% of it is in a small province directly adjacent to Iraq. Taking it over and bombing the rest of Iran is just the kind of thing that the neocons would think is doable. Fucking stupid, and likely to spin way out of control, but when has that ever stopped them?
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:17 PM
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12. Before March 20, and he will use the standard methods of warmongering
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 09:19 PM by 0rganism
with propaganda delivered through the usual channels: cable news, the NYT, and talk radio.

The propaganda doesn't even have to be very persuasive this time; he's not running for re-election, and congress has basically declared itself irrelevant to any decisions appropriate for a "unitary executive in wartime."
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:32 PM
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13. Flagwaving, cami clad generals, and "smart" bombs trump common sense.
Not to mention good old reliable fear pumped into the populace by politicians and "experts".

When? Whenever they finish going through all the motions of seeking a "diplomatic solution" and hypnotizing the people with the usual bogeyman terror.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:43 PM
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14. I believe you'll start hearing more about attacks
before the end of spring. So perhaps April or early June. It has to time in with the midterms just like Iraq.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:43 PM
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15. 6 weeks.
:(
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:51 PM
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16. The bush Regime will force the majority of Dems to...
give him a "blank check" just like the last time by framing the issue just like the last time. Will the majority of Dems cave in just like the last time?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:59 PM
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18. Yesterday in the House was the first step and they caved
404 to 4, the House passed a resolution to send Iran to the UN Security Council.

Dennis Kucinich spoke out against it, and made really good points about why it is a bad idea, but only 4 people voted against it. It was awful. There is a thread about it here, including links to the roll call:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2113015&mesg_id=2113941

It amazes me that it happened so fast and so few people talked about it. It's the legislative first step on the march to war. And no one seemed to notice, so yeah, I think they are going to pull it off again.
:(
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 03:49 AM
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24. Kucinich, Jim McDermott and Pete Stark for the Dems
Ron Paul for the Republicans. Just the usual small number of representatives that are 6 months to 20 years ahead of everyone else.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:56 PM
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17. I don't think the Administration has the leeway for pre-emptive air strike
in Iran. Nor do I think they want to necessarily push the issue, regardless of the talk.

Iran, unlike Iraq, is a formidable, well connected state. Russia has large interest in the country as do other Mid Asian nations.

The Pentagon thought Iraq was an easy pick-off and the Administration played that and Iraq's isolation in the national community as cover. Doubt if that one will fly again.

I could very well be wrong, of course.

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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 04:18 PM
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19. A full blown invasion, I agree....
but airstrikes could be done with a snap of the finger.

Which is about as much thought as this admisitration appears to give before putting men and women in harm's way.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 04:43 PM
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20. His Highness King Shrub doesn't have to convince anyone of
anything. If he wants to invade Iran, he'll invade Iran. He's above any laws . . . remember??
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Timmy5835 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:03 PM
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21. Nothing will hapen...but tough talk
Forget about air strikes. Iran is a whole different animal then Iraq, Iran has a military, a good one, and they'll use it. The Penagon and CIA know this all too well. Iran will not sit for airstrikes. I am sure they would invade Iraq and Mother, there goes the neighborhood. I am sure Russia and a good deal of Europe would have some choice words (and maybe some sanctions for us) as well.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 05:09 PM
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22. Remember the 1 year anniversary of the election of
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad comes on 17 June, I'm sure * could drudge up his connections with the 1979 Hostage taking, put out a big speech about Ahmadinejad *certain* use of nukes on our forces in Iraq and on Israel.

17 June 2006, comes the 48hr ultimatium...
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:24 AM
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25. Well, if they start amping up the shitty country "patriotic" ditties
that might be one indicator. People in post offices sending lots of parcels to military addresses (undisclosed addresses of course). Papers showing guys kissing their wives goodbye. The usual run-up crap we've seen since Bush I days and the Gulf War. Oh, yes, the cartoons on the editorial pages dehumanizing the "enemy." These have started already in fact.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 07:25 AM
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26. It depends on Israel
It was reported that they threatened to initiate a preemptive strike in March. Israel denied it but I find the date of their purported attack and the start of the oil bourse to be more than coincidental. When we go into Iran, it will be in support of our ally Israel. They haven't used this excuse yet.
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