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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:51 PM
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Could they come in the night?
Would they?
Are we headed for a time where SS type police haul "dissidents" off to camps, in the cover of night?

How would we know?

With this as a possibilty, can we organize some type of a preemptive watch force?

Am I too tin-foil hat?
:tinfoilhat:
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:02 PM
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1. Too tin foil
at least for now.
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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:04 PM
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2. not too tin foil at all
They like the element of surprise, and of ignorant trusting people who think THIS CAN'T HAPPEN HERE. It can.
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:04 PM
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3. I shop online for plants, seeds, etc. I make my own clothes. All my frikke
packages are pre-opened by homeland security (I assume). My son has a band, Dread Clampitt. He has sent a promo package two times to someone who requested it in Calif, and it has never arrived so far. USPS. He is going to try UPS next. What up with that?
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dufrenne Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:06 PM
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4. way way
too tin-foil.

news of a "preemptive watch force" to guard against SS-type police is a great way to ensure that we don't help elect anyone.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:07 PM
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5. It's begun... it's just a question of...
when will they come for YOU and YOUR FAMILY
or your friends and their family.

Do you know how many Muslim men, women and children
have been ghosted, disappeared or just sent off somewhere unknown ????

No one does.. except Bush and his henchmen.

Are we all gonna wait until there is no one left ?
Are we all gonna wait until they come us?

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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:14 PM
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6. I think it's more likely that...
...people will be hauled off from rallies and protest marches. The idea would be to incarcerate the minimum number of people necessary to intimidate the rest into compliance. It's far more cost-effective to bully people into cooperating by making such "arrests" very visible, and only to arrest those who are most visibly "causing trouble".
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:21 PM
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7. Sounds like the very definition of...
..."terrorism".

To use violence or threat of violence to exact changes in government and public policy...
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:34 PM
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8. we seem to lose our scientists this way
verdict suicide
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:41 PM
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9. Only for very prominent dissidents
It still doesn't make sense to lock up huge swaths of the population; people aren't yet convinced there's that much of a threat, and it wouldn't be cost-effective. Federal prisons are still a better choice than a camp, there's more opportunity for isolation, and if the gov't needed more space, they'd just parole a violent felon or two.

So if/when the next krystalnacht comes, I expect the hauling will begin with leaders of groups like Greenpeace, ACLU, SPLC and PETA. They're all easily villified, high-profile targets against whom the DHS could make a charge of terrorism or conspiracy stick. It's also key for them to go after groups capable of fronting lawyers to hold up the process or make things messier. The oppressors would want to take out effective organizers and fund raisers, first and foremost. Defund and disorganize the opposition with selective purges, then get to work on the rest.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:46 PM
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10. Well... they are building them
Homeland Security To Build Detention Camps In The United States

ARLINGTON, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 24, 2006--KBR announced today that the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) component has awarded KBR an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contingency contract to support ICE facilities in the event of an emergency. KBR is the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton (NYSE:HAL).

With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.

MORE HERE >>> http://robwire.com/?q=node/894
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:00 PM
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11. they already have other camps built for just such occasions
Staffing them and figuring out what to do with the grouchy unwilling residents is another matter entirely.

For that, they need more than tacit backing from a solid majority of the population. The movement to "purify" the population has to be very visible, very strong, and very well-established; otherwise, they'll run into all kinds of opposition. I don't think there's that kind of unified urgency that would enable the bushistas to do such a thing publicly just yet. Doesn't mean they won't, down the road, and it looks like they're preparing for it, but that doesn't indicate a willingness to actually go there yet.

Watch for when the leaders of the groups I mentioned, and plenty that I didn't mention, start "disappearing." Then we'll know we've crossed the Rubicon.
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