Unembedded Photojournalists on the War in Iraq on CSPAN2 now

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Go check out the website, there's some incredible stuff there. Some of it is pretty graphic, even CSPAN posted a warning before the show.

Unembedded: Four Independent Photojournalists on the War in Iraq
Kael Alford, Thorne Anderson, Rita Leistner, Phillip Robertson

Three independent photojournalists who covered the war in Iraq show and discuss their work. The photographs, collected in the book "Unembedded," show the war from the point of view of those living in Iraq. During the presentation, panelists talk about why they decided to cover the war without embedding and describe what it was like to cover the seige of Najaf by U.S. forces in August of 2004. Salon.com Iraq War correspondent Phillip Robertson, who wrote the introduction to the book, joins in on the discussion. This event was hosted by Barnes & Noble Booksellers in New York City. Some of the photographs shown during this presentation are graphic in nature.

www.unembedded.net

[Kurovski]

1. Okay.

turned on the TEEVEE now, will go to website.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. Hello my friend

will you hold my hand? This is going to be tough to watch. :(

[Kurovski]

6. I've just looked at the images at the website.

Many are dead from "accidents", and being present after an attack when helicopters came in after the fact and killed bystanders.

Many of them are Children.

I'll be around for a while, Viva.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

3. compared the time magazine cover of Saddam

with the old cover of Hitler - same setup. He said the artwork for the cover was done before the invasion even started.

see the covers here - http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030421/x/

[Kurovski]

8. Surely not, Bush was trying every peaceful means possible at the time.

:mad:

Time knew the score. Why wouldn't they? The order was in.

[Kurovski]

10. He also seemed to imply that the analogy was a false one

as Hitler had been invading other nations, while Saddam was not.

Yep. Saddam was staying put. I wonder how differently things would have been if Time put the photo of Rumsfeld and Saddam shaking hands on the cover? And a story on Cheney illegally doing business with Iraq?

It might have somewhat undercut the claim that we were going in to free Iraq.

[SeattleGirl]

4. Those photos are good

in that they show it from the other side, from the Iraqi POV. I think Rita Leistner's affected me the most. Thanks, VLR, for posting this link.

[acmejack]

5. Thank you for letting us know this is on.

It is very powerful.

[cantstandbush]

7. The website is incredible!! Oh how my heart aches for what the US

has done in Iraq. Much worse than Saddam. So sad, so sad.

Thanks for posting.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

9. the picture of the local date farmer with his mother

speaks volumes. And we were being told by our government that the insurgents were 'foreigners'. it was a lie.

[fooj]

16. Everything to do with these rat bastards is a lie.

They are pathological.

Peace.

[Kurovski]

11. Mental illness.

The photo of one woman saying "It is safer here." The photos in the mental hospital bring home the seldom discussed reality that mental illness is also a result of war.

It destroys lives in many different ways.

returning troops are also suffering.

[FatDave]

20. On suffering returning troops

I've said for a long time pissed off Iraq vets are going to make the pissed off Vietnam vets look mildly upset by comparison. Just a prediction.

[Kurovski]

12. Discussing how medication is unable to get through.

even from relief agencies.

Individuals who would be able to function in society are hospitalized because they can not get meds.

Why is it the US can't provide this? It would seem to be something far easier to accomplish than rebuilding water systems.

At the very least, to work with the agencies who provide relief.

[Quakerfriend]

13. Sadly, I think it is because our REAL goal is to destroy

Iraq completely- utterly and completely.

[Kurovski]

19. I can't help thinking there has to be a way around even that.

I recall that Tipper Gore was going to make mental health her focus as first lady. What power would she have to influence others in government to take care of what seems to be an easily accomplished goal?

I wonder if there aren't other senators or representatives who are willing to work to get relief for Iraq in this regard.

Individuals who can't keep from imagining horrible things in the best of times are going to disintegrate in the middle of a war. Those around them will also suffer immensely and the fears can actually exacerbate danger with the irrational behavior that overtakes them.

[rusty charly]

14. wow.

[Kurovski]

15. Viva, I didn't see this program on the schedule, did I just overlook it?

How are you doing there? :hug:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

17. it was there

It replays tomorrow morning.

I'm okay, but that tasty roast I pulled out of the oven a few minutes ago doesn't look so tasty anymore. :( :hug:



On a lighter note - Al Gore's daughter Karenna and Tipper are up at 11pm
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x457590#457771

[Viva_La_Revolution]

18. Anderson is saying now, when he travels this country he doesn't see

a country at war.

Paraphrased - "ALL THE SHEEPLE ARE SLEEPING!!! THERE'S A FREAKING WAR GOING ON! WAKE THE FUCK UP! LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN OUR NAME!!"

[Viva_La_Revolution]

21. REPLAY ON NOW

It's a little heavy, but well worth the watch.