A Proposal for a Winning Ticket

[skibunny4dean]

You know, some Democrats have really made me mad lately. Two candidates that I thought would have done really well in the 06 election were sacrificed to the gods of moving-to-the-center. Cindy Sheehan and now Paul Hackett. I would have loved to see those two in the Senate. Hackett is a bonafide war hero, charismatic, and very intelligent and he's a liberal. Cindy Sheehan is brave, speaks her mind even if it pisses people off, and she's a liberal. Why is everybody so afraid to be a liberal in the Senate. These two cats were two of the only liberals last year who weren't afraid to be liberal and this is the thanks they get? Give me a break.

But I think I have found a way to make it up to them. We convince good ol' Paul Hackett to run for President in 08 and get him to pick Sheehan as a veep. Think about it. We would have a young, intelligent JFKesque President. He would be a real outsider like Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan. And he would not be afraid to push the liberal agenda and defend the country when it's right. Sheehan would be the first woman to hold the veep, and I think she would do a good job with the responsibilities that it entails.

Everybody likes them, they are electable, they believe in the things we believe in. I can't think of a good reason to NOT push for this.

Am I crazy? I sure hope not, because this makes all the sense in the world to me. Let me know what you think!

Hackett/Sheehan 08!

[snowbear]

1. Clark/Hackett

Cindy can be appointed to a high-level position handling problems encountered with military families suffering losses.. :hug:

Or she can be a Peace Ambassador.

[OneBlueSky]

2. best ticket might be Gore/Clark . . . particularly if they pledge . . .

to refuse all corporate money . . .

whoever is on the ticket, if elected (big if, given election fraud) they're going to need a lot of help to govern . . . prominent roles should be found for people like Russ Feingold, John Conyers, Jimmy Carter, Ted Kennedy, RFK Jr., Bill Moyers, Gary Hart, Bernie Saunders, Ben Cohen, Barack Obama, Barbara Boxer, Paul Hackett, Cynthia McKinney, and anyone else who can make a contribution . . . including leading DLCers (e.g. the Clintons), true Conservatives, Libertarians, Greens, Socialists, and every other left-of-neocon group in existance . . .

because they're going to need all insight, skill and experience they can muster to even make a dent in the ungodly mess that BushCo will be leaving . . .

[Katherine Brengle]

19. I agree on Gore/Clark--incredibly strong ticket. Better than most of our

other options as well.

I like the bit about refusing corporate money--but wasn't Gore a major stockholder in some oil company back when he ran in 2000? It might be tough to escape that conflict if he were to refuse corporate donors--just a thought...

[mdmc]

23. I like Gore / Clinton, but I love your post

avatar, and sig line...
peace and low stress

[Syrinx]

3. you ARE kidding, right?

That's just silly. Especially about Cindy. I like her and everything, but come on.

[skibunny4dean]

12. No I'm not kidding

I am DEAD SERIOUS, people!

[Syrinx]

22. I wish Hackett had stayed in the Senate race

I think he would've had a better chance of stealing DeWine's seat than Brown does. And he'd surely make a better prez than that guy we have now. I just don't think it could happen.

And I wouldn't mind seeing Cindy Sheehan run for the House. But I don't think she has a realistic chance of taking on Feinstein, not to mention VP.

[BlakeB]

4. This is outrageous.

Most democrats don't even care about this country anymore. I'm sick of this move to the center bullshit. I can't wait til the Republicans beat us again because our leaders are morons that care more about their little senate club than the welfair of the American people.

[stray cat]

5. There are very few things that could keep me from voting dem

This would probably be one of them - being outspoken and emotional even if correct does not alone make me want to annoint them president. Just like W being Bush's son didn't make me consider him qualified.

Maybe we could just hold a lottery and the winner gets to become president.

[Nikki Stone 1]

8. I wonder what liquor store or 7/11 would produce the most Presidents?

under a lottery system...

[ComerPerro]

10. You are exactly right

[saltpoint]

6. In 2004, Kerry-Edwards turned New Hampshire blue. A Hackett/

Sheehan ticket in 08 would turn it back red.

Although he is a Buckeye, Hackett/Sheehan would likely be crushed in Ohio, especially if McCain is the Rethug nominee.

Florida? Out of the question. They'd also lose New Mexico, Iowa, Minnesota, and maybe Michigan.

It would result in an electoral landslide for the GOP. Jim Dobson would phone in his picks for the next Supreme Court.

This all is not to say that I don't greatly honor and admire Paul Hackett and Cindy Sheehan.

But it is to say that they'd be destroyed at the polls, through no fault of theirs, but because huge sectors of the country are too dumbed-down and frightened to support deep meaningful reform.

[never_get_over_it]

7. Question on NH

Did NH vote for Clinton Gore in 1996 because I'm not so sure if Kerry Edwards turned NH blue or if Nader turned NH red in 2000.... If I am remembering correctly NH 2000 vote was very close and the Nader vote going to Gore would have carried the state for him.....

And with not disrespect to the OP the thought of a Hackett/Sheehan ticket is pretty ridiculous....

[saltpoint]

9. Hi, never_get_over_it. I cheat when I post on election results by

going to

http://www.presidentelect.org/e1996.html#map

(for the 1996 race).

In New Hampshire that year, it posts Clinton with 49.6, Dole with 39.6, Perot with 9.7, and "Others" at 1.1%.

In the 2000 election, the results are as you say:

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm

Bush with 273,559, Gore with 266,348, and Nader with 22,198. Nader's total more than enough to make up the difference, if there was some way to be certain that those same voters would vote unless Nader was on the ballot, or for Gore/Lieberman if Nader was removed.

[mdmc]

11. we have at least 2 liberals in the senate now

Russ and Ted Kennedy. We should have Bernie Saunders in after this election! :kick:

[Douglas Carpenter]

16. Russ, Ted, Bernie and Sherrod would make four

[dysfunctional press]

13. nope.

they are not "electable" on a nationwide basis.

people go for at least some experience.

fuggedaboutit.

[FreedomAngel82]

14. LOL I don't think so

1) Cindy has said she will not run for senate.

2) If Hackett can't handle peer pressure from fellow democrats how the hell is he going to handle a presidential election? LOL!!!

[Douglas Carpenter]

15. Sherrod Brown is certainly to the left of Mr. Hackett

I have not heard anyone dispute that.

Representative Brown voted against the Iraq War Resolution and the Patriot Act and almost personally lead the fight against CAFTA.

Sherrod Brown is endorsed by PDA (Progressive Democrats of America) and is an outspoken member of the Progressive Caucus.

Representative Brown is at least as liberal as Sen. Kennedy or Sen. Feingold

Brown Tops DeWine in New Poll
An Opinion Consultants poll finds Ohio voters favor Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) for the U.S. Senate over incumbent Sen. Mike DeWine (R-OH), 43% to 38%

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/01/26/brown_tops_dewine_in_new_poll.html

courtesy of vote smart - link:

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=H3141103&type=category&category=Foreign%2BAid%2Band%2BPolicy%2BIssues&go.x=12&go.y=8

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Council on American-Islamic Relations 100 percent in 2005.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Peace Action 100 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 100 percent in 2003-2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 100 percent in 2004.

2004 On the votes that the Service Employees International Union considered to be the most important in 2004, Representative Brown voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 94 percent in 2003-2004.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 100 percent in 2005

[Katherine Brengle]

20. Thank you--I said that, but didn't have the energy to get the facts

to clarify my point.

:)

[Bluebear]

17. Yes! THAT COULD HAPPEN!

:crazy:

[Katherine Brengle]

21. hahahahahahahaha..... n/t

[Katherine Brengle]

18. Neither has any qualifications to run for those offices----

and that's fine, but they'd never get the nomination.

And Hackett isn't that liberal--that's a slant we've been seeing a lot because of the highly undemocratic way in which he was squeezed out of the campaign. He's actually fairly moderate--but I still like him. Truth be told, Brown was always more liberal than Hackett and he has the cash on hand to run a successful campaign.

If being a bonafide war hero meant anything in Washington, John Kerry would be President right now. (I think maybe it should matter, but it doesn't--Shrub poses in a flight suit and the sheeple swoon in ecstasy--the neobastards would have decimated Hackett's military record like it was nothing.)