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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:01 PM
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"Pallywood": Palestinian canard re violence at an Israeli checkpoint.
Is about 17 minutes long but definitely worth a look. I don't know if this practice is widespread but I'll wager it happens on both sides of the battle line (or any battle line, for that matter). I'm curious on the experience of others regarding this sort of thing. First time i've ever seen it sourced.

Splat



Pallywood

The material we show here constitutes a tiny fragment of a much larger phenomenon, raw footage from Palestinian photographers working for major western media outlets. From this material, our news agencies prepare news reports that shape our perceptions of what is happening in the Middle East Conflict.

We think that a close analysis of this material defies all expectations of what such footage should resemble, and suggest that Palestinian photographers do not at all share the same production and journalistic values espoused by a free press. We leave the experience and the judgment to you:

HERE’S THE EVIDENCE; YOU DECIDE



http://seconddraft.org/streaming/pallywood.wmv

http://seconddraft.org/cur_invest.php
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:28 PM
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1. I can tell you what i have seen at Israeli checkpoints, and their
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 01:31 PM by Tom Joad
treatment of the people whose land they occupy. It is very brutal, it is very routine. It has nothing to do with the how news films are edited, because such things happen with or without cameras rolling. Standing for hours without relief in rain, or heat. Old men being attacked because they insist they should be able to go from a Palestinian city to their home village (no Israelis are in danger, they could search him too, but still they turn him away). Some of the soldiers who man some of these checkpoints seem to be chosen for their mental instability.

The sane Israeli soldiers may stick it out, or the join the hundreds of Israeli refuseniks, who risk jail rather than harm their Palestinian neighbors.

Every day, tens of thousands of Palestinians are confronted by violence of the Israeli military. The violence often takes place when no shots are fired. It is the violence of restriction of movement, humiliation, the impossibility of living a normal life.

A very courageous Israeli writer, Amira Hass, says it like this:

The attempt to explain to Israelis that such acts of vengeance are puny compared to the intensity of the Israeli assault on every individual, and against the entire Palestinian community, is doomed to failure. On a daily basis, Israel attacks every Palestinian with systematic variety. The aggregation is lethal, even if the killing of a nine-year-old girl or setting a dog on an elderly woman are not daily occurrences. It's that aggregation that undermines any attempt to conduct a normal life. It's being locked up in the West Bank's enclaves, so that simple routines like going to school, work, or visiting family are impossible. There's the unceasing expropriation of land for roads and security fences for settlements; the trees uprooted by the army, livelihoods that are cut off daily, and the insult of that; the army's prohibition, on security grounds, against accessing farm and grazing lands; the break-ins to houses in the middle of the night, which the Israeli public rarely if ever hears about; the hours of waiting at checkpoints; the frightened children; the aimed rifles.
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:14 PM
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3. Agree, I have seen the same on link TV, FSTV, etc.
I'm not advocating a pro or anti stance with this post, I just haven't seen anything like this before where the events were alleged to be staged. My intent was to raise the question of the pervasiveness of this practice....from anyone.

Thx for the reply!
Splat
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:46 PM
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2. first -this is the wrong forum
second- after watching the video i have no conclusion on what happened there because i wasn`t. the camera can lie to fit anyone`s perception.
third- i discount any site that is so anti arab and worse in my opinion - anti-everyone that does not support israel


i see no difference between this site and the aryan nations,radical muslim,and fundamental christians..they are all the same in their message of hate. peace will never be accomplished by those inflame their citizens to hate each other.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:17 PM
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4. Well written
Hate call out to Hate...
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:38 PM
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5. Thanks. I disagree with your first point but do agree with the second.
I wasn't there either. That said, I'm not there when either side films anything over there but I'll look at both. On balance I side with plight of the Palestinians trying to live a normal life in the occupied territories but, as you point out, citizens (Palestine, Israel, any..) hate for each other is much too common and doesn't need inflamed. I doubt either side is clean of staging events and doing just that, its just the first time I've seen it filmed, whether I believe it or not. This file didn't change my stance, I didn't post it to change yours. I do appreciate the fact that you did view it and took the time for a thought provoking comment.

I didn't go into the site as the file was emailed to me so I don't know where it stands on the "Phelps, Aryan Nation, Dobson meter".

Cheers!
Splat
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