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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:23 PM
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"Why We Fight" >> A must see !!
Had the opportunity to see this documentary on the big screen. All I can say is wow. PNAC, "military industrial complex", wars of the past 60 years, it was all there.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436971/



Plot Outline: Is American foreign policy dominated by the idea of military supremacy? Has the military become too important in American life? Jarecki's shrewd and intelligent polemic would seem to give an affirmative answer to each of these questions.

Plot Summary for
Why We Fight (2005)

He may have been the ultimate icon of 1950s conformity and postwar complacency, but Dwight D. Eisenhower was an iconoclast, visionary, and the Cassandra of the New World Order. Upon departing his presidency, Eisenhower issued a stern, cogent warning about the burgeoning "military industrial complex," foretelling with ominous clarity the state of the world in 2004 with its incestuous entanglement of political, corporate, and Defense Department interests.


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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:26 PM
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1. I just burned it last night. Very good indeed. n/t
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:31 PM
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4. kewl!
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:28 PM
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2. I have it on my desktop
Not in Denver, yet
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:30 PM
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3. Well
With the amount spend on Military budget by the US.
A peaceful world means that sum is pure waste.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:35 PM
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5. Why did they kill Kennedy instead of Eisenhower? Why not both?
What, was Eisenhower too popular with the people to destroy?
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:46 PM
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6. Eisenhower left office the day after giving that speech.
His remarks weren't in the prepared text given to the press.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:50 PM
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8. Eisenhower didn't try to break the CIA in a 1000 pieces like
JFK. Plus if organized crime had anything to do with it, Bobby was surely a factor.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:51 PM
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9. They probably didn't kill Kennedy in first place
I remember reading some Chomsky stuff on JFK assasination. He says it is "ridiculous" that JFK was killed for standing up to the Establishment.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:48 PM
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7. Saw It Today, thought it was great, but...
Didn't have as much of a punch as Fahrenheit. It was more of a TV documentary (it aired on BBC in Europe). You can watch the whole thing on Information Clearinghouse.

Still a great film, even if not as coherent or powerful as a Michael Moore film.

The Baghdad scenes were heartbreaking.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:55 PM
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10. Agreed, excellent documentary.
Don't remember who said it, but there was a line in it something like "when war is this profitable, is there any doubt we'll have more of them?" That line, the whole movie in fact, was chilling.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:46 PM
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11. Bump: I saw it, too, and this thread deserved better.
Forget assassination conspiracies, focus on the movie and its message. I saw it yesterday afternoon in Bethesda. It is brilliantly done. It is important. It sums it (Bushites and legacy) better maybe than anything else I have seen; it is up there with "The Fog of War." Nuff said. The filmmaker takes the broad historic view and also humanizes it; check out the Dad, a retired cop and Vietnam vet, whose son was killed in 9/11 and seeks vengeance. And then sees something else. Ike didn't just name the "military-industrial complex," he went into detail warning us about it. And in his farewell speech as President, as the most important thing he could speak of. I for one am looking it up. Go see this movie. Period (and thanks, of course).
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