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Mon Feb-20-06 01:01 PM
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About Mary Matalin's use of the word 'jihad'... |
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This is what she said in reference to the press coverage of Cheney's shooting.
MATALIN: Because you went on a jihad, David. For four days you went on a Jihad.
This has bugged the hell out of me ever since I watched MTP. This is the repuke way of equating anyone who questions the WH to terrorists. The repukes have made it a part of their agenda.
They are on a mission to make dems out to be as bad as terrorists or with the terrorists. This is an ongoing pattern of behavior stemming from rover's brain.
I was hoping David Gregory would call her on it or even Maureen Dowd, but no one said anything. I know he commented on it, but seemed to let it go.
The dems really need to come down hard when people like Matalin does this.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:04 PM
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It's anyone who disagrees with them.....anyone who does not toe the talking points line. This is becoming an increasingly dangerous tactic, since more that half of America disagrees with the talking points re shrub's handling of Iraq and terrorism.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:04 PM
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2. If they can call us jihadists, we can call them Nazis. |
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Seems only fair, doncha think?
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:04 PM
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3. every time they accuse us of being weak on defence or anti-american |
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some one from the democratic party should blow up in their faces.
she'd think jihad by the time i was done with her.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:06 PM
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4. I think it would be great... |
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if the press did "go on a jihad" about this and NSA spying and the Plame outing and Medicare Prescription Drugs and...
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:06 PM
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5. recall Juctice Thomas saying he was lynched. In both cases--powerful |
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:08 PM
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6. Hey Liberal, please write this down |
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Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 01:11 PM by kenny blankenship
Everyone but George W. Bush and the officers of his government are terrorists. Write it down on a postit note and stick it to your forehead. Everyone but Bush, and his men, are with the terrorists. All that distinguishes people like David Gregory or you or me or anyone else from the turbanned terror chatterers is the date of our official denunciation and arraignment. It's Bush against the whole world. He's just trying to save us from our terrorist inner natures, can't you appreciate that?
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:13 PM
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and it was even more despicable when no one called her out on it.
Jihad = Anyone who disagrees with this administration.
Scary, scary stuff.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:22 PM
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12. This is why I've written-off Carville for some time,now |
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If he ever appears at a University near me..and I get close to the mike,Buh-bye, Jimmy.
I first met James,in 1992...the last 4 days of New Hampshire Primary..I led (and chaperoned) a 10 student contingent up there from Maryland for the "Comeback Kid's Last Big Push/Counterattack". I used to love him....
Well,guess what James? You're sleeping every night with the woman who knows about every War Crime and Impeachable offense committed in the past 61 months!
So...You're not with US..you're just playin' us for Million$...
FWIW:rant:
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:36 PM
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22. I Saw Him Speak When Clinton Was Still |
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in office. He was down right scary - like some crazed religious zealot, yelling, arms flailing. The mild mannered lunch crowd was shaking their heads. I wanted to leave, he was making no sense.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:16 PM
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8. Gregory called her on it almost immediately |
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But Matalin very carefully considered using such a loaded word, of that you can be sure.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:21 PM
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10. I didn't get that from her... |
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She said 'Were you saving up for that line?'
The woman was filled with contempt during most of the show. She's a spiteful woman.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:19 PM
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9. she's obviously using the word for the "negative connotations" and |
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Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 01:20 PM by mzteris
to link anti-bushies with terrorists.
She probably doesn't even know what the word actually *means*:
jihad actually means "struggle, strive." The Arabic root of the word is jahada "to strive for." (The Arabic word for war is "harb.") Of the two types of jihad, the lesser type is the struggle against religious or political oppression, the second and greater is the soul's struggle with evil.
(edit out unkind remark about her.)
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:21 PM
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The really scary thing to me is how we can have such a polarized populace! How can people hold views which are complete opposites of each other?
Take a bottle drink it down. Pass it around. Take a bottle drink it down. Drink it... Pass it around. Pass it a...round Sometimes we did, but her hands flew from her side Wild eyed, crazy Mary Pearl Jam
Crazy Mary rocks and smiles and dreams her dreams somewhere But not where little kids can follow after We light the fire and say a prayer for Crazy Mary
A children's song I've seen somewhere
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:24 PM
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This is just some information for folks, if asked what the term "jihad" really means. It is Arabic for "struggle". In Islam, there are two forms of jihad-the greater and the lesser. The lesser jihad involves fighting to regain the right to worship freely. One cannot be the aggressor, and everything short of war should be tried first. Once the right to worship is won, the vanquished are to be treated fairly and compassion. Innocents are to be protected from harm, and property is not to be destroyed. Needless to say, militants who use the term are not in accordance with the Qur'an, and have been denounced by moderate and liberal Muslims.
BTW, the greater jihad takes place within yourself-to struggle to be a better person.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:25 PM
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14. That's what you get for questioning the Vice-Executive's privilege |
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to shoot people without accountability
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:25 PM
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15. Yes. It was a rather Freudian slip of hers to accuse GREGORY of |
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"saving up" his "line", which in actuality was a mild rebuttal. SHE was the one who had the "jihad" line "saved up".
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:27 PM
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16. This was about the press - not Dems. |
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Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 01:30 PM by sparosnare
Mary used that word to attack Gregory and the press corps for trying to get a the truth. Her message - any reporter who tries to find out what's really going on instead of following the script is "going on a jihad". A warning for those reporters who aren't in the WH's back pocket.
What Gregory said was important - the job of the press corp is to be a proxy for the American people. Matalin knows that, and was trying to discredit them. Eventually, they may do away with the press corps altogether.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:31 PM
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20. I should have been clearer... |
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The repukes love to use 'librul media'. Those in the press are for the most part are liberal as far as they are concerned. They're liberal, went on a 'jihad' and are either with the terrorists or no better than the terrorists.
It is about dems, the so-called 'librul media' and anyone else who doesn't walk in lock step with this administration.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:28 PM
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17. he should've snapped back, "what, has Al-Matalin declared a fatwa?" |
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:28 PM
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18. It's not bothering me that much because I see it as desperation. They |
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Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 01:30 PM by higher class
are wildly on the defensive. They are not as relaxed, confident, and smug as they have been. They are now on a strategy that they may not have predicted - a strategy of preserving their own Republican supporters who were once soldily with them and who are breaking away on different issues. And, as always, they have to press the fear and terror buttons for their lemming voting base. They have to lead for the Robertsons, Phelps, and Falwells so they can lead on their level and the Rush, Sean, Brit, Bill, and Bill so they can lead on their level.
She was just being a pumper.
We need to take the anger and concern and get our Dem Congresspeople to understand what the people want and help educate your fellow 'people'.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:30 PM
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19. Gregory immediately objected to the word. |
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He immediately told her that use of the word was inappropriate. And then she snapped back with an even more snide comment.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:35 PM
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21. Yes, he certainly did |
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Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 01:36 PM by susu369
glad you pointed that out - as did gratuitous #8 above.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:43 PM
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"Oh," she said, "were you saving that line up?" Like implying that Gregory intended to call Cheney a jihadist or something? It made no sense at all - just projection on her part. Matalin was obviously saving that line up for dramatic effect. She tried that old Rove stand-by: accuse your enemy of what you yourself are doing, but she got it all wrong. It was so nice to see the typical Republican tricks fall flat.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:36 PM
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23. Gregory called her on it right then and there n/t |
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:41 PM
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24. APJ shows that MoDo called Matalin on the "jihad" statement in the chatter |
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Dowd, from off-camera, could be heard to say "Have you been saving up for that line?" Betcha money that when a transcript is available, that won't be in there. That's why you gotta watch these shows....]
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20060219punditpap.html
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:46 PM
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I was really hoping Gregory would shoot back with "Were YOU saving up that line?" So glad Dowd said it, at least.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:47 PM
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27. Hmm..."Jihadis" tend to be anti-abortion, anti-gay rights,... |
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...anti-women's rights and as a rule tend to be VERY in favor of prayer in schools.
Who's party does that remind you of?
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:50 PM
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....I saw her on Meet The Press with her husband sitting next to her, pitch her book about "motherhood" and gushing about her love for her two children....she then proceeded to turn to James her husband and father of her children and call him a "looser" and put her hand to her forehead and made an "L" with her fingers.....(this is a common thing that young idiots do to one another, I VOLUNTEER AT A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB)......WOW....classless bitch...the lack of respect for the father of her children and husband.....wow.
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"Goebbels" Mary appeared on television after the Coretta Scott King funeral flack and called the remarks made that day::::::"unsouthern".....I laughed my ass off. She fills my definition of scum.
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:52 PM
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29. She's nuts. I don't know what Carvelle sees in her. nt |
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Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 01:52 PM by In_Transit
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Mon Feb-20-06 01:54 PM
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I still remember the night Old Man Bush lost the election in '92--you knew he lost becuz she was being interviewed and had tears in her eyes (this was before the polls had even closed but she had seen exit reports) and said, "We can still pull it off."
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Mon Feb-20-06 02:20 PM
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31. The Mary Matalin is on a Crusade to save Dick's shot image. |
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That's why she's so angry, it's more work than she can handle. :dilemma:
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Mon Feb-20-06 02:55 PM
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32. He chastised her for an unfortunate use of the word..... |
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