hey, maybe the bush admin is banking on more problems, hoping...

[bridgit]

for more problems. has anybody said that no other takers were available for the operation of the ports? no other bidders? why not just let the republicans give away the rest of the country to all of their other, middle eastern crony friends & associates? what's wrong with that?

then when the 10th level of hell is called forth onto this temporal plane as a result of the mass, corporate, globalized, apathetic response to laissez faire oligarchic, excursion based venture capitalism on the part of we the people, we'll maybe finally know who to blame :shrug:

fuck it!!

[Rick Myers]

1. Then they can drop the M Law bomb!

[bridgit]

2. there'ya go...

:thumbsup:

[patrice]

14. Is that the one that replaces the Government that all of us have grown to

know and love (cough, cough) with an appointed Government. There was legislation about that a couple of years ago wasn't there?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. does anyone suspect the timing of UAE sales?

What if this is simply a way of distracting us from the real issues, the invasion of Iran and the closing down of our freedoms?

[Rick Myers]

4. And this new Osama tape translation

It's surely part of a pattern leading up to something big! This is NUTS!!!

[Bluzmann57]

5. I'm sure there are some out there who believe that

I don't. But here at DU there are a number of conspiracy people and there's no doubt that someone out there believes what you are saying. Of course, the selling off of American ports to potential terrorists is a real issue, so it may not be a great distraction.

[babylonsister]

8. Another option is that they are entirely,

mindblowingly stupid, and had no clue the reaction to this would get. Their hubris knows no bounds? I wouldn't doubt it, considering this inept crew.

[bridgit]

9. that too, plus i can't help but to think that with all the secret shit the

cheney admin is so bent on pursuing, they may have intercepted some threat and are, in a manner of speaking, so as to say, negotiating with terrorists; something they are said in public they will never-ever do but are in reality shitting down both pant legs to prevent by throwing money & contracts instead, and so, will do similar here with a cushy port deal that seems more commercial than military surrender of "battle hardened & hard fought ground".

i simply do not trust the cheney admin to convey any shred of truth. halliburton is known to be dealing with iran, and the bfee will deal with anybody BUT the american people. it is a lose/lose situation for us imo

[patrice]

6. That's what my nephew the genius says.

He says I'm helping the Enemy by fighting Him.

I'm scared of Hell.

[babylonsister]

7. Helping the enemy by fighting them? What are the options? nt

[patrice]

12. As suggested in the OP, let them have it all, so things really go to

hell, and that will (finally) change people, so that "we" do better at being citizens etc., to avoid adaptation by violence.

I say it's a gamble whether that good change would actually happen, so things could just get worse to no benefit on balance.

[bridgit]

16. i can't say that the current trend is for 'the better', the loss of...

a few thousand here, a few thousand there; may well be common headlines on the papers of even american news stands in the foreseeable, the dream-able future; it is otherwise the mind-numbing same-ness of endless-eternal war & random chaos what befalls us without any action one way or the other imo

please start voting these assholes the hell out of office 2006!!! :patriot:

[patrice]

17. We must take it upon ourselves to change ourelves purposefully.

Grassroots food production is a good place to start.

[bridgit]

18. that's not possible to differ with, whenever we are able to, we will...

bring in raised beds if need be and cultivate where we are able to do so; but my sense, while i agree with it, is that that is an ancillary topic :hi:

[patrice]

21. Not if you can actually live off of it and what it produces, ergo buy less

We buy too much. That makes slaves of us, but you can't rewind the clock to simpler economies, and shouldn't anyway because you don't want to live without the advancements of commerce that save y/our life when you need it.

That's kind of a retreat too though, to the farm, away from a lot of what needs to be done to help others, which includes cooperative learning about change, i.e. the DU.

[bridgit]

25. it will take a catastrophe to turn the american juggernaut around...

Black sails knifing through the pitchblende night
Away from the radioactive landmass madness
From the silver-suited people searching out
Uncontaminated food and shelter on the shores
No glowing metal on our ship of wood only
Free happy crazy people naked in the universe
WE SPEAK EARTH TALK
GO RIDE THE MUSIC

If you smile at me you know I will understand
Cause that is something everybody everywhere does
In the same language
I can see by your coat my friend that you're from the other side
There's just one thing I got to know
Can you tell me please who won
You must try some of my purple berries
I been eating them for six or seven weeks now
Haven't got sick once
Probably keep us both alive
Wooden ships on the water very free and easy
Easy you know the way it's supposed to be
Silver people on the shoreline leave us be
Very free and easy
Sail away where the mornin sun goes high
Sail away where the wind blows sweet and young birds fly
Take a sister by her hand
Lead her far from this barren land
Horror grips us as we watch you die
All we can do is echo your anguished cry and
Stare as all you human feelings die
We are leaving
You don't need us
Go and take a sister by her hand
Lead her far from this foreign land
Somewhere where we might laugh again
We are leaving
You don't need us
Sailing ships on the water very free and easy
Easy you know the way it's supposed to be
Silver people on the shoreline leave us be
Very free
And gone
NO C'MON
GO RIDE THE MUSIC
C'MON RIDE IT CHILD

[patrice]

32. Nuclear War of any scale will change what People are expecting

to happen. The smaller nukes are actually more dangerous than the larger ones, because they are "more usable" some think, but say 5 or 10 of them will change Earth for aeons to come.

[bridgit]

33. oh yes, one step through a door already wide open and the world...

will be changed forever :nuke:

[INdemo]

10. Has anyone ever given any thought

to the fact that the reason Bush wants to outsorce our ports would be to completely disband the longshoreman's union in that area

[bridgit]

11. trading american longshoreman for arabian longshoreman seems...

not the answer there, but i hear you talking on the union busting traits of all republicans otherwise yes!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

13. but sending hispanics to mine coal in WV and Virg. is perfect.

Who cares if they die in our unsafe mines?

Damn these people. Damn them all.

[bridgit]

15. sadly, we are all expendable numbers to these lot of barons...

they truly care not where the numbers come from...so long as the numbers keep coming

[patrice]

19. That's a fact called Cost to Benefit/Profit ratio.

Costs are a property of Expendables, the number of units of flesh that Mammon's Machine is fed by his high priest Cheney.

[bridgit]

26. when you have run out of ideas, you enhance your bottom line...

via the lowering of 'costs', when you show a corporation just how to do that; you take it out in the form of a gold & ruby encrusted para-sail upon which you are to glide as the 'costs' pile up behind & below you...your contribution thus will be ssome of what is seen today = a paper stock market supported by the hard dollars of other nations

[Generator]

20. Cheney is outsourcing Iran to his home planet

It's time to come clean. They aren't on our side, that much is ceratin. Even the media seems to get it. They ARE the enemy. It's become obvious. It's some freakin horror, sci-fi novel. Maybe it is a nightmare. It just gets weirder every day.

[patrice]

22. Animatrix.

The Machine is making all of us War Slaves.

Maybe it's our history catching up with us, you know . . . ? Genocide and Slavery.

Don't mind me; I'm a little depressed this evening.

[bridgit]

27. we've got the only national anthem with bombs & rockets right there...

in the lyrics, we've made our first big time money on armaments & tobacco addiction :patriot:

[patrice]

30. and by killing Indigenous People and Slaves and keeping the Rif Raf

(Poor Whites) in their place.

But doesn't BushCo's Port Deal with D'Bai (sp?) just make you really think about the Animatrix. What other explanation could there be? Gives a new meaning to Globalization, doesn't it?

[bridgit]

34. bush is so lame he wasn't even in the loop for the negotiations...

he only found out about it after the deal was cut; what does that tell us about this dweebs sense of presidential engagement x(

[bridgit]

23. weirder every day and no sign of letting up...

by all account that is the republican way and they are too pig headed to change it for the better, or stop it, for fear of being called out as functional illiterates on the world stage. anybody see mary matalin the other day on 'meet the press'? she was using every sycophant buzz word & phrase, "you went all jihad yada-yada" "maureen dowd the diva of 'the smart crowd'" one pissy little mean spirited girl running everyone in circles (how can carville stayed married to such a point of view :shrug:) yet this is how they think, they think they can badger the point into submission; what am i talking THEY HAVE BADGERED THE POINT INTO SUBMISSION!!!

civility is undone. it is well past time for the dumb to meet the smart imo. in the breach we are to have a roiling boil of a social instability and somehow be happy with that = humbug!

[bridgit]

24. fuck it kick...

:kick:

[Sugar Smack]

28. No other takers!!!!

:rofl: Not to worry. A spell was cast over the quiet, sweet-scented bluebonnets, holding hands on a fine stroll. Footsie, anyone?

[bridgit]

29. hey! what are you doing over here, Czarina...

shouldn't you be kicking your own thread!!! :rofl: :loveya: :kick:

[Sugar Smack]

31. Oh, hey, I was in the neighborhood and noticed a FINE THREAD

and then I did a double-take! LOL!!!!

:D :loveya: :kick: :hi: :thumbsup:

[bridgit]

35. it's you it's you, it's really really you you...

:spank: O8) :loveya: :hippie: :rofl: i'm tipsy B-)

[malaise]

36. They only give away assets like these

to themselves. Follow the money.

[bridgit]

37. that sounds right to me, it's time to start following the money...

:patriot: