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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 08:42 AM
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'President's gone insane' – 9/11 dad
'President's gone insane' – 9/11 dad


BY JIMMY VIELKIND
DAILY NEWS WRITER


Peter Gadiel (l.), whose son died in 9/11 attacks, joins Sen. Chuck Schumer at yesterday's press conference.

Peter Gadiel just doesn't get it.
How, asks Gadiel, whose son James died in the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center, can a company owned by a terror-linked country get control of our nation's ports?

"I'm a lifelong Republican and I think the President's gone insane," said Gadiel, 58, who heads 9/11 Families for a Secure America.

Two of the 19 9/11 hijackers were citizens of Dubai, the Arab emirate whose bid to run ports in New York, New Jersey and four other cities was okayed by the White House even though investigators have found signs that money used to finance terrorism flowed through Dubai banks.

more at:

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/393077p-333284c.html
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 09:28 AM
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1. .
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 09:29 AM
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2. We need to beat people over the head with this issue.
There are obviously strong feelings about this across the political spectrum. This issue is bad for Bush and, more importantly, we need to protect our ports.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 10:00 AM
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6. Bad for Bush yes, but he's already damaged goods...
We need to make this an issue that's bad for Republicans.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 10:23 AM
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8. Yes but
they seem to be also coming out against it. How can we use it against them?
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 10:30 AM
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9. Well, his administration has ties to this group...
so we can show that other Republcans are for it. I want it to be more than just a Bush issue, that's all.

If the American public hear that the Republican administration has ties to this group then they will see it as a Republican problem.
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freefall Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:14 PM
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20. I just want it to be the issue that gets port security strengthened. n/t
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:54 PM
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24. Not me!!!
Edited on Tue Feb-21-06 02:55 PM by Dawgs
I want the ports strengthened, and I want Republicans gone. We can use this to get both.

We've got to start playing their game. We won't get anything if we don't.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 09:45 AM
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3. This issue is not going away! I would love to see it lead to
bigger things- ie, a 'Boston Tea Party' or the likes.

Also, this should open the sheeples eyes to some of the realities of free trade.:sarcasm:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 09:48 AM
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4. Gone insane?
Yeah gone insane long ago. Actually the pResident is just a corporate whore, who is paying back all of his corporate buds, while enriching the BFEE ever more.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 09:48 AM
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5. I wish he HAD gone insane.
Sadly, this is very calulated, very sane
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 10:10 AM
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7. Even sadder is the fact that his son did not need to die at all.
First if the legally elected man had been put into office, it would not have had happened. Second once the illegal idiot was installed, if he had done anything even approaching his job of reading and responding to intelligence warnings, it also would not have happen.
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:35 PM
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17. I think that is true too.
As Richard Clark said, the admin. weren't even looking at Alqaeda. The focus was on tax cuts and Saddam. They are cads, all of them.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 01:33 PM
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18. Clarke had a plan to go after al Qaeda militarily and by
choking off their finances. Had Gore been elected this would have been implemented
before he was even inaugurated. 11-7-00 Sandy Berger asked for commando raids on the
al Qaeda camps.

When Condi heard Clarke's plan she ignored it, and demoted him, and instituted a "policy
review". And Bush ordered the FBI to go easy on the Saudis, and to shut down investigations
of suspected terrorist financiers, including that by agent Robert Wright who was investigating
one of the financiers of the Ptech software company that had contracts with the military and
the FAA which are believed to have put it in a position to subvert the air defense effort
on 9/11.

9/11 would not have happened under Gore--unless he's as warped as Bush.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:18 PM
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22. nice analysis, there, petgoat
Nutshells how complicit the Bush administration is in allowing the 9/11 tragedy to happen.

I find it revolting whenever these guys claim to be tough on terror.

Tough on Terror since 9/12/01, is really what they are.

-85%
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:23 AM
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29. Yep
David Ray Griffin is going to be on Mike Malloy's show tonight so check it out. It should be great! He's an ex-CIA guy. Also go to http://www.question911.com There's some great 9/11 docs on there including "Loose Change."
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 10:30 AM
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10. "lifelong Republican"
Will Mr Gadiel now renounce the Republican Party and join other progressives and Democrats to take control of the Congress in 2006? I hope he has learnt the lesson about what and who the Republican Party stands for.Certainly not the average guy which makes up the majority.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:20 AM
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11. If he voted for Bush in 2004, then I have no sympathy for him.
I can forgive him if he voted for Bush once (in 2000) but not twice.

:nopity:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:32 AM
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12. I fell asleep with CBS on Sunday night and woke up for this incredible
sound bite the next morning on the NY CBS AM show! First they had a clip of Schumer and then Mr. Gadiel spoke. Hearing him say that our sociopath in chief was insane made my day from the start!
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iNViSiGOD Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:50 AM
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13. Oh wow
Really, wow is all i can think to say. Just what this country needs, more security holes punched in the already sinking ship.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:50 AM
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14. Doesn't matter, Repukes deal in faith based, the rest of use have
to deal in reality and facts. It's a hell of a burden. This horrible fact won't really bother the Repukes to much for the above stated reason.

Isn't it insane. These folks can't be reasoned with at any level.
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iNViSiGOD Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:59 AM
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15. And faith can be...
Easily misguided. Just look at our current situation with the GOP's folly after folly. Common sense needs to be used in good judgment, not faith. :(
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 12:01 PM
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16. he's been insane a long time but repukes are beginning to see it now
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 01:41 PM
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19. The UAE is where Osama got treatment for kidney disease
six weeks before 9/11 from Dr. Terry Callaway at the American Hospital in Dubai, according
to the French newspaper Le Figaro.



While there, Osama met with CIA agent Larry Mitchell, and also with the then head of Saudi
Security, Prince Turki bin Faisal. Prince Turki is now the Saudi ambassador to the USA,
and attended the State of the Union address.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/searchResults.jsp?searchtext=callaway&events=on&entities=on&articles=on&topics=on&timelines=on&projects=on&titles=on&descriptions=on&dosearch=on&search=+Go+
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:18 PM
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21. The administration is responsible...
It's easy for them to tell lies on 9-11 and then forget. United States of Arabs
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hezekkia Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:34 PM
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23. no doubt bush has gone insane, but...
this really smells of anti-Arab prejudice to me. nativism rears its ugly head again.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 03:51 PM
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25. Folks, disgruntled wing-er count reports in my office is now up to 6.
This was a major mistake. Hammer it out there. First impressions will count on this one more than whatever spin they put on it later.
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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 08:43 PM
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26. "lifelong republican"
After a lifetime of supporting fascist gangsters, Mr. Gadiel wonders WTF happened? Welcome to reality. This is what they are about. My sympathies for the loss of his son, but it's about time he wised up.
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:06 AM
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27. I think Mr.Gadiel should be commended for speaking out
He could have kept quiet, could have made excuses, like I saw O'Reilly doing tonite. Takes a big person to admit when they have made a mistake. I sometimes think people on this board don't realize that most people out there aren't political junkies, in fact most people are more occuppied with their own lives or if they follow politics at all, they pick a party and stick with it and some think there is no difference between either party and tune everything out, refusing to even vote.

And truthfully, I sometimes wonder where people are going to get any information when the Democrats themselves don't make a bigger issues of things. For example Mr Gandiel's statement was big news in New York, carried in all of our papers, yet also listed was another article about the Homeland Security funds being used in other states, not at all at high risk for a terror attack, wasted, yet very little is made of it "Terror fund boondoggle" http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/393079p-333202c.html. As it is Wyoming receives more in Homeland Security funds than NY. Yet has my party made a big issue of it? No. Have they made a big issue of the fact NY'ers were out and out lied to about the safety of their air and water after 9/11, and many people are now dying because of it? No. I remember Hillary Clinton saying "They will have to come to NY and face us" Know what? She never brought it up again. Or the fact, firemen & cops so often referred to by Bush as heroes, yet having their funding cut, not being given decent wages, not having the appropriate equipment as our 1st responders should & firehouses being closed. Democrats speak up about that? No.

And quite frankly The RNC Convention in 2004 in NY, would have been the perfect time for Democrats to have brought all these issues out, especially since the RNC Convention turned into the 9/11 cry fest....Democrats should have held their feet to the fire on all these issues and didn't.

So instead of criticizing Mr Gadiel, which I can't understand any of you doing, I want to thank him for speaking out. And to offer my sympathy on the loss of his son. When people realize the error of their ways, shouldn't we be welcoming them?

I'm hoping against hope Democrats will show the same courage and walk out like they did once before, this time on this Port issue. So many people are deeply disturbed by it and many are really starting to see bush for what he is, and they could win over many a new voter if they take a strong, unified stance against it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:10 AM
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28. It's truly scary
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:17 AM
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30. Somebody just posted this on DU's Latest:
Australia: Exercise extreme caution in the UAE because of terrorism
Baltimore Sun
Green light for port transaction raises red flags
February 22, 2006

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.th...

ARLINGTON, VA. // The Australian government recently issued the following alert to its citizens:

"We advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in the United Arab Emirates because of the high threat of terrorist attack. We continue to receive reports that terrorists are planning attacks against Western interests in the United Arab Emirates. Commercial and public areas frequented by foreigners are possible terrorist targets."

The United States has approved a business deal that would turn over the operation of six major American ports to a company that is owned by the UAE, the very country Australians are to be wary of visiting. The obvious question is: If it is dangerous for an Australian to travel to the UAE because of terrorism, isn't it even more dangerous for a company owned by the UAE to own the rights to American ports where terror might be directly, or indirectly, imported?

There have been some dumb decisions since the U.S. was attacked on 9/11, including the "welcoming" of radical Muslim groups, mosques and schools that seek, by their preaching and teaching, to influence U.S. foreign policy and undermine the nation. But the decision to allow the sale of port operations in New York; Newark, N.J.; Baltimore; Miami; Philadelphia; and New Orleans to a company owned by the UAE may be the dumbest of all.

Shows that there is more than "racism" about the objections to UAE running our ports and Kos had a front page with solid reasons to object.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:48 AM
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31. But, Bush has convinced people the 9/11 terrorists were Iraqi's!
Edited on Wed Feb-22-06 05:49 AM by B Calm
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:52 AM
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32. Clearly, Mr. Gadiel is a racist n/t
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 11:27 AM
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33. Does this mean they are pulling their heads out of the sand?
Or out of somewhere else? :wow:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:40 PM
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34. No, Mr. G., you are seeing the real GWB for the first time!!
Welcome to the real world. I hope many, many of your friends do the same.
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