News Conference - Ohio terrorists arrested this weekend...starting CNN

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Soon, they said. Taking bets now... will it be a real story, a semi real story, or a complete fabrication?



Ohio Men Indicted On Plans To Attack U.S. Troops In Iraq

POSTED: 11:44 am EST February 21, 2006
UPDATED: 11:59 am EST February 21, 2006

CLEVELAND -- A federal grand jury has indicted three Ohio men on charges of planning attacks on U.S. military personnel in Iraq, according to an indictment.

The three men, who all lived in Toledo within the last year, were arrested over the weekend, said Assistant U.S. Attorney David Bauer in Toledo. The indictment was unsealed Monday.

They were to be arraigned in federal courts in Cleveland and Toledo on Tuesday afternoon.

The suspects recruited others to train for a violent holy war against the United States and its allies in Iraq, the indictment said. The group traveled together to a shooting range to practice shooting guns and studied how to make explosives, the indictment said.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/7292871/detail.html

[leftchick]

1. a complete fabrication

like all of the so called terror arrests.

[Richard Steele]

3. And from OH, where the 'rule of law' is a complete sham at this point. nm

[leftchick]

19. exactly!

The perfect corrupt state to pull off a total horseshit terror "capture". Florida would have worked too.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. Rummy is holding the briefing...

odds just changed. 80% bullshit with heaping dose of projection rhetoric.

[madmom]

4. Crap I thought they were talking about Taft ,Blackwell, & Petro.

[CatWoman]

5. what, did they arrest Blackwell???

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. not on CSPAN or CSPAN2

gotta watch cnn :(

[chelsea0011]

7. Homegrown terrorists to launch attack in Iraq????WTF?

I don't believe this story.

[MadMaddie]

17. Sounds like they are getting desperate....

the release of the story right after the port debacle is suspicious!!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

20. They were just arrested this weekend...

so if I might correct that... the timing of the arrests is suspicious. I mean, were they trying to leave the country or something? arrested at the airport? I bet not.

[MadMaddie]

21. Good point....

You are right...the timing of the arrests is supicious....

:hi:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

22. Ooohh! Gonzo is holding his own Conference is a few minutes...

Different flavor of spin! yum.

:hi:

[yellowcanine]

8. Training in Toledo to fight U.S. in Iraq?.....I suppose that's POSSIBLE.

But it sounds like something "Pepper" Chaney and "Untidy" Rumsfield would dream up.

[Coexist]

9. how exactly were they going to GET to Iraq??

this sounds a little absurd - I will take a wait and see attitude though.

[canichelouis]

18. In a ships container from the port of Philly

[Coexist]

44. thats a joke, right?!

[canichelouis]

48. Needed this I guess

:sarcasm:

Just one of those, ya had to be there moments

[havocmom]

10. What color are these suspects? How do they attack troops in Iraq

from Ohio?

Guess I am glad for no TV this morning.

[Brotherjohn]

11. Smell a rat. Fits a little too cleanly with the "fighting them there so...

... we don't have to fight them here" canard.

If they were already here, and training in weapons, and obviously willing to give up their lives... WHY wouldn't they plan on taking some action HERE? They're already HERE! Defenses are much weaker, and targets are much softer, once you are in the U.S.

If they are Muslim, they may very well have expressed dislike for the Iraq war, and they may very well have exercised their 2nd amendment rights at a shooting range. But have we arrested every loser who's stockpiling weapons and planning for war with the "mud people"?

I vote for "complete fabrication".

[aquart]

12. How utterly silly.

How unbelievably silly.

[Ezlivin]

13. The real terrorists had guns in their hands back at Kent State

The only reason I say this is because I'm getting myself ready for the detention camps they're setting up.

Is it me or does it seem like most of our fellow Americans are sleepwalking?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

14. 5 or 6 offices under the president are involved...

which offices Rummy? Rove's? Propaganda ministry?

[Sydnie]

15. So, the port trade off is so we can use them as a military stop over?

We give them our ports, we get to use their airstrips and their ports for our military shipments? Is that what they are saying?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

16. Homeland security and Department of Defense...

he said again 6 offices involved.. What are the other 4, he didn't answer.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

23. Gonzo says they have been planning this in Toledo for the past year

[Viva_La_Revolution]

25. recruiting people to go kill us over there

playing with bombs and going to shooting ranges

[JohnnyRingo]

24. Probably by the time they waste 2 years and millions of dollars

the only thing that'll stick will be illegal music downloads.
They'll claim the evidence is too sensitive to reveal.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

26. uh oh . downloaded videos from the internets

from mudjaheen sites.

ramping up the war on the internets :scared:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

27. 'John" FBI Deputy director. "we have stopped many complex

terrorist plots. emphisis on the "terrorist plots" no details or clues about those cases.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

28. We will continue to protect the Homeland. Thank you.

questions now

[underpants]

29. Why would they go to Iraq?

If they really wanted to do this why go half way around the world when there are troops right here (in large groups even)?

Does this make any sense?

Oh well glad they got them before they acted.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

34. good question. should we hold our breath till they answer that?

:eyes:

[underpants]

37. YES ready 1 ... 2... 3...

you go first

[Viva_La_Revolution]

30. justification for the domestic spying...

he practically said. "neener neener! see! we have to spy, it's a good thing. I told you to Trust me!"

[w8liftinglady]

31. This whole thing stinks-big time

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

33. lol, neener neener! n/t

[Catrina]

40. That was my feeling also ~ they are terrified we'll find out what they

were really up to ~

I guess if they were planning this for a year, the Domestic Spy program didn't work too well. If they'd stop spying on people ordering pizza and focus on REAL terorists, maybe they would have caught them long ago, assuming there's any truth to this, which I doubt.


Btw, have they caught the 23 escaped Cole terrorists yet?
Right on cue again! Bush is in trouble with the Port debacle and with Domestic spying ~ and we have another 'terror' story .... *yawn*

[JohnnyRingo]

32. The one subject "downloaded information on how to make a bomb vest"

Is that illegal?
Can I be arrested because of websites I visit even if I don't want to blow something up?
Can I use the internet to learn how to make an atomic bomb even if I can't possibly gather the material required?
Is it legal to visit DU if people here discuss overthrow of the government through impeachment of the administration?

He's using this bust to tie terrorists here to Iraq and to justify the illegal wiretapping.

Gonzalas scares me more than Bin Ladin.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

36. yes. to streamline the process, please report to your nearest

detainment camp voluntarily. thank you.

[JohnnyRingo]

41. Since I'm a Delphi retiree a detainment camp may look pretty good

Especially after Buxh fixes social security.
"three hots and a cot"

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

35. cspan2 nt

[Viva_La_Revolution]

38. missed the end!

was there a grand finale? maybe a tough question.. maybe?

[AzDar]

39. Didn't they "foil" a plot in Ohio a few years back?? Arrested a couple

of Middle Easterners IIRC. Families claimed at the time that the men were completely set up..something about 'bombing a strip mall'...never heard another word about it.
Anyone remember this, Or have I finally gone insane?(ENTIRELY possible)

[Holly_Hobby]

42. I'm from Toledo

I was outside running with my dogs at 5:30PM yesterday, when a black helicopter started circling my neighborhood. It was black with yellow writing, which I couldn't read. I waived at them after they circled over my house for the 5th time, then went in the house and called my Mom to ask her if anything was on the news. She said there wasn't.

My Mom called me at 12:30PM today and told me about the press briefing. I looked up the terrorist's names and one lived 2 miles from me and the other 4 miles from me. I couldn't find the address of the 3rd. The press conference said they were arrested over the weekend - I would still like to know what the black helicopter was doing.

[FreedRadical]

43. Fear the thought police

I'm like duh'. Remember we are in the process of watching the criminalization of thought. So, at the risk of sounding like a complete tinfoil hat wear'n dork, watch what you say when you are buzzed and pissed at your favorite micro-brew pub. Duh....

[zbdent]

45. Ever listen to "Da Yoopers"?

Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "terrorists from Ohio" . . .

[suffragette]

46. This is all reminding me of Bullwinkle and the hat

Every time the administration needs to justify its sketchy programs, it reaches back into the hat to pull out a "rabbit." That it kept the critter there for some time just waiting to pull it out when they need it and that it really isn't a "rabbit" (see Padilla, the original accusations against him and what they ended up charging him with) gets ignored or brushed under the rug by the media. Or if it even gets raised, by that time they've already achieved their main purpose, in this case getting away with domestic spying and renewing the (un)Patriot Act.

[Patsy Stone]

47. Are they out of Bin Laden tapes?

Just asking...