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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:08 PM
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on CSPAN top intel personnel getting propaganda about WMD!!
What the f*ck is this? Loftus is up there saying that we have found proof of WMD in Iraq..

Welcomed heads of all 15??! National security departments at the beginning.

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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:09 PM
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1. what?
unintelligible
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:13 PM
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5. sorry! lemme do over...
a conference on CSPAN2

see info post #2

Saying new intel has been found that says Saddam had WMD's. Looks like they are pulling a Powell. except it's in front of all the nation security top guys not the UN.. A practice run?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:10 PM
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2. Intelligence and Homeland Security Education Center
International Intelligence Summit
Intelligence and Homeland Security Education Center
Crystal City, Virginia (United States)

Bodansky, Yossef, Author
Loftus, John, President, Intelligence and Homeland Security Education Center, International Intelligence Summit

Doing research now... just the name of the place gives me the willies...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:12 PM
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4. Hmmm? To "Educate" American Proles about the "right" way to think about
the Beloved Homeland and our Beloved Leader?

It has that kind of smell about it
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:11 PM
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3. Is he referring to the "Powell-point" presentation?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:14 PM
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6. seems to be a new version...
:shrug:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:20 PM
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8. So we didn't have any better "proof" then? That UN performance was patheti
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:20 PM
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7. International Intelligence Summit
Welcome to the International Intelligence Summit, a non-partisan, non-profit, neutral forum that uses private charitable funds to bring together for the first time the intelligence agencies of the free world and the emerging democracies.
The purpose of the Summit is to provide an opportunity for the International Intelligence community to listen to and learn from each other, and to share ideas in the common war against terrorism.
The Summit's International Advisory Council includes Generals, former senior FBI official, former senior Mossad officer, and the former Chair of British Joint Intelligence Committee.
The list of presenters at the Summit will include many of the top leaders of the intelligence, espionage, counter-terrorism and counter-intelligence agencies from around the free world.
The Summit is intended to be the most prestigious world conference on international studies, intelligence policy, terrorism and homeland security.

http://www.intelligencesummit.org/
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:26 PM
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10. Yossef Bodansky Political Theorist
journalist and director of the Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare of the U.S. Congress.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761535810/qid=1140549830/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-6814585-0184832?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

LACKING VERIFICATION METHODS, August 3, 2004
Reviewer: M. Parke "parkay" (Florida Keys) - See all my reviews

If the story told here could be verified, then it would validate the methods behind our war on terror...yes, even the invasion of Iraq. While Mr. Bodansky, apparently a well-knowned counter-terrorism "expert", writes with thematic clarity, he fails in a major regard to verification. Although the book has a list of sources in the back, they are not cross-referenced to any of the material in the book. This leaves the reader with several choices. 1. Accept his premise entirely, 2. Accept parts of his premise (which parts are fact, which parts are fiction?), or 3. reject his premise entirely. What a conundrum. I can reject item 3 because I would have had to have been living on the moon for the last 20 years to escape the wealth of information negating that premise. I cannot accept premise 1 either due to the lack of a well thought out set of footnotes and references that could be checked for veracity. That leaves item 2 as the only choice available...hmmm...what to believe and what not to believe. Like I said, a conundrum.
In the age of everyone writes a book and the "drive-by" work of literature, I hope that these authors will soon learn that some of us would like a detailed reference list so we can verify what is truth and what is only truth in their own reality.

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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:24 PM
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9. Didnt they find a video or whatever of Saddam
spouting off about terror and WMDs?

I believe this is their big new proof. Really sad.

They didnt believe a word he ever said but when they saw this , they jumped all opver it like it was the Holy Grail.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:44 PM
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12. I think I found something...
He's padding his title or something. And I can't find any government site with his name on it dated after 1994. :shrug: I'm still looking.


Google results
"Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare of the U.S. Congress" (with quotes)
results 173 – all linked to this Bodansky guy.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Task+Force+on+Terrorism+and+Unconventional+Warfare+of+the+U.S.+Congress%22&btnG=Search

Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare of the U.S. Congress (no quotes)

top link is to
Congressional Task Force on. Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare. US House of Representatives – an official government website.
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:31 PM
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11. but this guy was an insptector back in the 90s
are they trying to use info from the 90s to justify what they did in 03? I don't get it. This guy is confusing me. Maybe that's the point? He makes a point about Sadaam's tapes having lots of "Allah willing"s on the part of his underlings talking to him...geesh.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:49 PM
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13. From SourceWatch - He's the FORMER Director
Yossef Bodansky, born in Israel, is the former Director of the Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare of "the U. S. Congress, as well as the World Terrorism Analyst with the Freeman Center for Strategic Studies (Houston, Texas) . He is a contributing editor of Defense and Foreign Affairs; Strategic Policy, the author of three books (Target America, terror, and crisis in Korea), several book chapters, and numerous articles in several periodicals including Global Affairs, JANE's Defence Weekly, Defense and Foreign Affairs; Strategic Policy, Business Week. In the 1980s, he acted as a senior consultant for the Department of Defense and the Department of State." <1> (http://www.kashmiri-pandit.org/columnists/yossefbodansky/)<2> (http://www2.indystar.com/articles/6/048247-5776-P.html)

lots more - http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Yossef_Bodansky

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:51 PM
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14. Freeman Center for Strategic Studies - now we're learning something
Freeman Center for Strategic Studies
From SourceWatch
According to the organization's web site, the Freeman Center for Strategic Studies (http://freeman.io.com/) "aids Israel in her quest to survive in a hostile world.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Freeman_Center_for_Strategic_Studies
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:54 PM
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15. terra monger
On Terrorist Attacks on US
On November 29, 2004, the Jerusalem Post reported that Bodansky said that "'the primary option' for the next al-Qaida attack on US soil would be one that would use weapons of mass destruction.

"'I do not have a crystal ball, but this is what all the available evidence tells us, we will have a bang," Bodansky said.
"He said that al-Qaida has not carried out a second major attack on the US until now for internal psychological and ideological reasons, but after the reelection of President George W. Bush, it has gotten 'the green light' to do so from leading Islamic religious luminaries, as well as from 'the elites of the Arab world.'" <6> (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1101615867007)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Yossef_Bodansky
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