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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:08 PM
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Let's PASS THE PORT BILL OVER THE VETO
It will be beyond humiliating for King George if his only veto is overriden by Congress.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:08 PM
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1. I like that idea a whole lot...
Cornyn, Hutchison, are you listening?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:09 PM
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2. Can't stop laughing.
They sold terrorism. They sold the Muslim menace. They sold our ports to Arabs. Giggling again.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:12 PM
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3. It's not a laughing matter!
I am just freaked out that this continues to get freakier
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:15 PM
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4. Two thirds of both houses--if the GOP is serious about national security
they should have no trouble...this should be a bipartisan issue...we know how they love to use that word, but not walk the walk??? Now's yer chance, Fristy and FatBoy Denny!!!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:18 PM
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6. This could be the chance for Congress to take back
its power, AND perhaps to purge committees of neocons and corrupted legislators. If they were smart.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:18 PM
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7. It's a briar patch legislation/veto
Edited on Tue Feb-21-06 05:20 PM by SoCalDem
Either way it benefits republicans..

The ports get sold... it's spun as a brilliant move to save tons of money and ensure cheaper gasoline..repubes are not hurt at the polls because they "opposed" the idea and then were "sold" on the idea because of its stellar features..

the veto gets overridden...the repubes come off as champions for having the guts to challenge a sitting president in wartime..on principle

dems are cast as obstructionists in scenario 1...go-along butt-kissers in scenario 2
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:28 PM
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8. no, hon. either way they're screwed.
They spent the last four years demonizing the Mideast. The better to invade, you know. Now they can hand our ports to arabs, or they piss off George and admit he's an incompetent who cares nothing for the security of this nation. Either way, the country knows we were giving access to our country to the people we profile.

We've been handed an early Christmas present.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:31 PM
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9. I sure hope so.. But I know how these people think
adn I knwo how powerful their message-machine is..and I know how gullible their voters are.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:54 PM
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11. THEY manufactured the biases that will destroy them.
It has symmetry. IRONY. I'm blown away by the exquisite grace of it.

They are handing access to the United States to the people we profile. There it is.

Now Bush, who would not veto one thing to protect Americans, is going to use his veto to protect the UAE?

I can't wait for the spin. Didn't Rumplestiltskin spin so hard he vanished in a puff of smoke?

Entry to the United States in the hands of terrorists. Go George, go.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:34 AM
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13. They still have to explain this shit, and that explanation does not cut it
WASHINGTON - The Dubai firm that won Bush administration backing to run six U.S. ports has at least two ties to the White House.

One is Treasury Secretary John Snow, whose agency heads the federal panel that signed off on the $6.8 billion sale of an English company to government-owned Dubai Ports World...Snow was chairman of the CSX rail firm that sold its own international port operations to DP World for $1.15 billion in 2004, the year after Snow left for President Bush's cabinet.

The other connection is David Sanborn, who runs DP World's European and Latin American operations and was tapped by Bush last month to head the U.S. Maritime Administration.

The ties raised more concerns about the decision to give port control to a company owned by a nation linked to the 9/11 hijackers.

"The more you look at this deal, the more the deal is called into question," said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who said the deal was rubber-stamped in advance - even before DP World formally agreed to buy London's P&O port company....

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/393375p-333478c.html

When you ask yourself the question, "WHO BENEFITS?" and follow the money, the only conclusion that you can come to is that this was a scam perpetrated on the American people to enrich certain persons. It would be interesting, too, to find out exactly WHAT STOCKS are held in the blind trusts of senior administration officials.

Frist has already come out against this sale; now we need to hear from Hastert, if he has not commented already. If the Congressional leadership can't rally their minions in support of the will of the American people, and enforce party discipline in the GOP, then clearly they are not up to the task and there needs to be some changes made on the Hill.

This shit is going over like a lead balloon--there is no amount of spinning that can explain away why a country that a) Provides moral and material support to the Taliban, and b) Was the home nation of TWO of the 911 hijackers, is given approval to commence running our friken ports. It just does not pass the stink test. You can't bitch about stupid things like Libya having a minor seat on the Human Rights Council (while making backdoor deals with Libya all the while) and brush this kind of nonsense off as though it were a minor annoyance.

And as for the cheaper gasoline theory, that is a bit of a stretch--UAE has less than ten percent of the world's reserves...hardly worth the sacrifice of our national security.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:16 PM
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5. if more than 2/3 of house and senate back the bill--then it can
be overridden by congress.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:34 PM
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10. All I know
is the only thing that could have been better than this is if we found out Bush gave Saddam a military escort back to Iraq and begged him to please take his country back.

Where the hell's my popcorn ----------------------------------------------------------------------------> Oh here it is. :popcorn: :rofl:
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:58 PM
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12. Right...
if he does veto then maybe impeachment proceedings will start early. If Congress doesn't override the veto, then all the better for Democrats in the 2006 elections.
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