July, 2001, UAE: Osama Bin Laden stays at hospital in Dubai, UAE

[file83]

You can get the summary of this historical FACT here: Osama in UAE July 2001

If you want to do more research, let Google get you started: Google search on this story

This was only 2 months before 9/11. Keep in mind, Osama Bin Laden was the most wanted terrorist in the world at that time. So now we are supposed to turn over control of our ports to this country, UAE, which aided the mastermind behind 9/11!?

There is so much that doesn't make sense here. Almost makes me think our leaders were involved in 9/11. Afterall, the CIA did meet with Osama during his stay in Dubai in July 2001. Oh, and the hospital was an American hospital. Now this port sale?

This changes everything.

[AX10]

1. Kick, Recomended, Bookmared, and will be emailed ASAP.

Thanks.

[Generator]

2. Yeah but you know it's crazy to think

our government knows these things and looks the other way. That's just crazy talk! God, I wish I could be in denial. If it's quacking I say duck. It doesn't matter how much it breaks your heart.

[Name removed]

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[file83]

18. Saw it. Loved it. Have it in my collection! n/t

[lovuian]

4. Oh Ya Everything is connected and there are NO

coincidences!!!

[file83]

13. Are you being sarcastic? n/t

[bleever]

5. Nicely done.

Thanks, file83. Rec'd.

[Botany]

9. Bleever

Why do you hate America?

I think the UAE watching our ports idea is now DOA.

[bleever]

21. Why do I hate America?

For its freedom, silly! Fortunately, there's a program in place to get that under control.


* is going to have to wrap his mind around the fact that this deal is dead, and that nobody trusts him anymore.


:nopity:

[file83]

23. A 30 second MoveOn.org commercial could explain this simple fact

very easily to the Red State zombies in a way that even THEY could understand.

Osama-->UAE-->US ports=Corrupt Politicians!!!!

[bleever]

26. file83:

Have you posted any work at HuffingtonPost.com's Contagious Festival? I saw one of your pieces and thought you might want to check it out.

Funny stuff seems to get passed around the most to garner the most hits.

[file83]

29. Yeah, I'll have to check that out - thanks for the tip!

[Rose Siding]

6. Hmmm...so BL's ties to the UAE are more concrete and recent than to Iraq

[Botany]

7. Grudge Holder!

Why do you Hate America?

:rofl:

[file83]

15. Exactly! Next thing Bush will say is,"That's all water under the bridge!"

[MelissaB]

8. K&R!

Amazing how things fit together, isnt it?

[Benhurst]

10. recommended NT

[Kansas Wyatt]

11. Bush: No, we caught Osama Saddam, so it's okay now.

BushBots: Well Clinton should have had the CIA grab him when he had the chance, cause that would have never happened on Bush's watch.

[fishnfla]

12. "we will make no distinction between terrorist states and states which

harbour terrorists" GWB circa 9/13/2001 the 18th million lie he evr spewed

[file83]

16. If you ever find a video clip of that quote, let me know...

...I'm thinking of putting a short video together on this subject of Bush's hypocrisy concerning the UAE port sale.

[fishnfla]

19. It was one of the first addresses he made to the nation after 9/11

eom

[file83]

20. Yeah, but I've had a hard time finding an actual clip I can download

I'll keep hunting for it.

[FreedomAngel82]

38. Good idea!

I wish someone would do that. Would be great for the DNC!! Maybe we can all get the DNC to get on this.

[Emit]

14. That and the fact that A.Q.Khan

Is the scientist that all the media is talking about when they mention that the UAE was an important transfer point for shipments of smuggled nuclear components sent to Iran, North Korea and Libya by a Pakistani scientist.

See this thread with detailed timeline of many of the shipments, transfers, etc. a bit further down:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=465919&mesg_id=469650

For more on Khan, check out robertpaulsen's 'American Judas':

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=66773


So this committee, with Bush’s backing, has complete confidence in the deal. Does make one wonder if they know something they’re not telling about who was really responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

[file83]

17. I agree. The writing is on the wall with blinking neon lights: MIHOP.

What else on earth could it possibly be?

[bridgit]

22. i've suggested it elsewhere i'll restate it here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=484865&mesg_id=484865

[file83]

25. Here's a thought:

Maybe the US is allowing the UAE to get into the shipping business because the UAE & US know that peak oil has come and passed and if the UAE doesn't get into some other businesses and quick, the future of that country is doomed. Or something along those lines....

[Emit]

32. That's what this article

and others I read (mostly articles about His Highness Sheik Maktoum bin Rashid Al Maktoum) alludes to:

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates

~snip~

All political and considerable economic power rest with Dubai's ruler, His Highness Sheik Maktoum bin Rashid Al Maktoum, grandson of the sheik who brought Dubai into the 20th century, and his two brothers -- His Highness Sheik Hamdan bin Rashid Al Maktoum, deputy ruler, and Gen. Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, crown prince.

~snip~

There are some practicad reasons for this progressive attitude toward outsiders. Dubai has oil, and for some years has enjoyed the benefits that came with having those revenues pour in. That's why its nationals enjoy cradle-to-grave security, free land on which to build homes and such other benefits as free education right up to getting a doctoral degree in a top university abroad, should that be desired.

But the petroleum reserves are limited. Oil currently accounts for only 20 percent of the state's gross domestic product, and that percentage is steadily declining.

To help prepare for the day when the oil runs out, Maktoum has given the green light to his government to encourage tourism. Most of the major international hotel chains already have deluxe properties of striking design, and new hotels in the city and also its sweeping beaches are opening all the time.

Cont'd here:

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:36u7lW_DBqoJ:www.datadubai.com/about2.htm+Dubai+government&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=31

[IronLionZion]

44. 100 years ago they were riding camels and killing each other in the desert

100 years from now they will be right back there. Maybe even sooner. That's a rough quote from Syriana. I suspect that movie was about UAE, maybe Kuwait, but most likely UAE.

[madrchsod]

24. well those sources

are not the best...some are just a tad crazy

[Generator]

27. Huh I typed in Bin Laden, UAE and it took me a second to find this:

Bin Laden's operatives still using freewheeling Dubai

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Osama bin Laden's operatives still use this freewheeling city as a logistical hub three years after more than half the Sept. 11 hijackers flew directly from Dubai to the United States in the final preparatory stages for the attack.

The recent arrest of an alleged top al-Qaeda combat coach is the latest sign that suspected members of the terrorist organization are among those who take advantage of travel rules that allow easy entry. Citizens of neighboring Gulf states such as Saudi Arabia can come to Dubai without visas, which other nationalities can get at the country's ports of entry.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-09-02-terror-dubai_x.htm

[file83]

30. Thanks for helping me set that person straight. Nice find by the way!

[northzax]

47. well sure, they use the UAE

because it is the only state in the region that isn't a pure police state. that's worth noting. In any other state in the region, except maybe Qatar, I would say that any Al Qaeda presence reported after the fact is a sign that the State approved of the action. But in UAE, especially Dubai, people come from all over the world to conduct business, and it isn't a military/police state where every little thing is approved by the government. doesn't mean that the UAE doesn't support AQ, but it doesn't mean they do, either.

remember, the FBI just broke up a terror cell (if you believe them) in Toledo, my hometown. So if there was terrorist activity being planned in Toledo, does that mean Toledo supports terrorism?

Just a thought. don't believe all the hype, just some of it.

[file83]

28. I provided a link to Google so you could check out the 44,600 hits

that come back from that search. I'm sure if you attempted to, even you might be able to find a source that meets your strict standards of acceptability.

Furthermore, this report is a historical fact. This isn't up for debate, so what is your motive for attempting to discredit this story? Seriously, explain yourself. Humor me. I'd find your explanation fascinating.

[Generator]

31. The original report was in the French newspaper Le Figaro

Here's a London paper's report:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html

Two months before September 11 Osama bin Laden flew to Dubai for 10 days for treatment at the American hospital, where he was visited by the local CIA agent, according to the French newspaper Le Figaro.

The disclosures are known to come from French intelligence which is keen to reveal the ambiguous role of the CIA, and to restrain Washington from extending the war to Iraq and elsewhere.

Bin Laden is reported to have arrived in Dubai on July 4 from Quetta in Pakistan with his own personal doctor, nurse and four bodyguards, to be treated in the urology department. While there he was visited by several members of his family and Saudi personalities, and the CIA.


~

The CIA and Dubai denies all.

[file83]

33. Of course they deny it - it's part of a black op.

Good find! What a cool story - I bet the French intelligence agent that was there observing this was probably dressed up like a doctor or something. So 007. He slipped in, slipped out without anyone noticing him (or her!).

[petgoat]

34. Never believe anything until it has been officially denied

says Otto von Bismarck

[EVDebs]

35. Hmmm. They can track me with RFIDs but can't track that OBL guy...

Total Surveillance
http://www.motherjones.com/interview/2005/12/albrecht.html ...

Couple this insidious technology with purposely erroneous background checks

Who is checking the background checkers?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1128/p13s02-wmgn.html

They've offshored, outsourced, and privatized TIA. Now all they have to do is fire you for being 'of the wrong political party' and put false information in your background data...and voila ! You've just created the most insidious terror project in the US ever.

They can track ME when I buy underwear at Wal-Mart but can't put a track on that OBL guy on kidney dialysis...go figure.

[file83]

36. Yeah, it kind of makes you wonder who's running the show, don't it?

[EVDebs]

40. Old programs labelled 'new'

Bush's Mysterious New Programs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=481152&mesg_id=481152

never did mention the old REX84 Ollie North 'suspension of the Constitution' stuff...but, hey, give these guys an "A" for effort in journalism at least. Everything old becomes new again !

[oblivious]

37. Carlyle owned 40% of Le Figaro at the time according to Carlyle's website.

In March 2002, Carlyle Europe Partners I announced the sale of its 40 percent stake in Le Figaro, France’s best known publishing and media enterprise. The terms of Carlyle’s exit met all expectations set at the time of the acquisition and were very well received by the fund’s investors.

...Carlyle acquired 40 percent of Le Figaro Group in July 1999 through a combination of shares and convertible bonds from the company’s parent, Socpresse. Socpresse was 100 percent owned by the Hersant family at the time of Carlyle’s investment. The Hersant family had held Le Figaro since the 1970s, and also had interests in numerous regional papers.

Carlyle’s investment allowed the family to retain control of Le Figaro with a 60 percent interest while providing necessary balance sheet restructuring. Following the investment Carlyle worked closely with the management team to support a major redesign of the paper and refocus of business strategy. The results were impressive and Le Figaro’s readership, revenues and profitability climbed steadily over the following three-year period.

http://www.thecarlylegroup.com/eng/geo/casestudy-755.html

http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&q=le+figaro+Carlyle+ownership&btnG=Search&meta=

[EVDebs]

42. So, why would LeFig lie about the story then ?

This was MAJOR news. Did anyone followup and interview doctors etc at the hospital in Dubai ? The silence is deafening.

[oblivious]

46. There would be no reason for Le Figaro to make this up. That's the point.

[eridani]

39. Just for the record, this is a single source report

Not that single source reports are necessarily wrong, but they need to be flagged.

[file83]

45. Ummm...You did see the Google part, right? 44,600 sources for you.

[northzax]

48. still, they're all sourced to La Figaro

just because 44,600 people report that a newspaper said something, doesn't mean that the original source was acceptable. I can find 876,000 sources for the assertion that Al Gore invented the Internet, but they all go back, if they source anything, to the exact same errornous story.

[eridani]

50. And every damned one of them refers to the same original!

Citing the same source thousands of times leaves it still a single source.

[IronLionZion]

41. We didn't attack them over there, so they attacked us here

This port deal reeks of Rove. Bush Inc. are daring us to do something about it.

Impeachment will likely accomplish fuck all since they only needed Bush to be the smirking face of the evil empire. Cheney will be president. Then they'll dissolve Congress and the courts for national security reasons. The jack boot is hovering over us. They want impeachment.

There were different Democrats in Clinton and Carter's administration, and they were essentially decent people.

But the same criminals have been in every Republican administration since Nixon. :wtf: Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush41, and Bush 43* all had Rumsfeld and Cheney. I believe Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, and a few others were self-hating confused Democrats before joining Reagan.

[radwriter0555]

43. And? Osama didn't perpetrate 911. Sure, he had a hand in the Cole, etc.

but, every action the (now dead) man ever took was a reaction to bullshit US policies and actions.

So since the PNAC perpetrated 911 and OBL didn't, what's the problem with the DPA running a lucrative business that they do very well, all over the world?

[Generator]

49. His name is Richard Labeviere who reported this

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2001/rfi110101.html

He was working also for Radio France International at the time. I don't know if he was the only source for the story but he wrote a whole book on the subject. "Corridors of Terror" It's not his first book either, he also wrote "Dollars for Terror". Sounds like he might know a thing or two.

http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/HERALD_CIA%20denies%20seeking%20pact%20with%20bin%20Laden.html

snip~

Labeviere said a contact in the hospital told him of an encounter, which was later confirmed by a Gulf prince.
The second contact told him the meeting had been set up by Prince Turki al-Faisal, head of Saudi intelligence.

"Turki thought he could start direct negotiations between the Saudi millionaire and the CIA on one fundamental point: that bin Laden and his supporters end their hostilities against American interests," he says.

In exchange, the CIA and the Saudi (intelligence) services undertook to allow bin Laden to return to his native country. The meeting was a failure, Labeviere said.