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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:04 PM
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Strange bedfellows - moveon.org & rightmarch.com (AOL/Yahoo email tax)
Lions and lambs, dogs and cats....will wonders never cease??!! What's next, freepers and du?

From Moveon.org

http://civic.moveon.org/emailtax/



Stop AOL's e-mail tax
AOL wants to charge an "email tax" for sending email.


Those who pay-to-send would get preferential treatment, while those who don't would risk their emails not being delivered. AOL is threatening the existence of the Internet as we know it. Can you help change AOL's mind by signing this emergency petition?

"AOL, don't auction off preferential access to people's inboxes to giant emailers, while leaving people's friends, families, and favorite causes wondering if their emails are being delivered at all. The Internet is a force for democracy and economic innovation only because it is open to all Internet users equally--we must not let it become an unlevel playing field."


For a full explanation of this issue, click here: http://civic.moveon.org/mediaaction/alerts/Stop_AOL_email_scheme.html

& this "Conservative Alert" by email from "RightMarch.com"



Stop AOL & Yahoo from Charging to Deliver Mail!
Tell Them That Taxing Email is Wrong!


ALERT: RightMarch.com's email Action Alerts are free for you to receive -- but they're not free to send. And very soon, thanks to AOL and Yahoo, we might not be able to afford sending them to you at all.

Remember the famous email rumor that made the rounds in the 1990s: "Congress is trying to tax your Internet connection, write in now!"

Well, as the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) notes, "what wasn't true in the 1990s is apparently coming true in 2006, only the beneficiaries won't be Uncle Sam -- it will be Yahoo, AOL, and a company ironically called Goodmail. Yahoo and AOL have announced that they will guarantee access to your email inbox for email senders who pay $.0025 per message. They will override their own spam filters and webbug-strippers, and deliver the mail directly with a 'certified' notice. In the process, they will treat more of your email as spam, and email you're expecting won't be delivered."

The justification is that if people have to pay to send email, they won't send junk email. Apparently AOL and Yahoo believe that if we "tax" speech then only desirable speech happens. We all know how well that works for postal mail -- that's why no one gets any "free" AOL starter disks, right?

More seriously, this isn't really an anti-spam measure as much as a "pay to speak" email measure, and it won't end spam or "phishing". Prominent anti-spammer Richard Cox of Spamhaus agrees: "An e-mail charge will destroy the spirit of the Internet."

Email being basically free isn't a bug. It's a feature that has driven the digital revolution. It allows groups to scale up from a dozen friends to a hundred people who love knitting to half-a-million concerned citizens without a major bankroll.

Email readers and senders will both lose, because the incentives for Yahoo, AOL, and Goodmail are all wrong. Their service is only valuable if it "saves" you from their spam filters. In turn, they have an incentive to treat more of your email as spam, thereby encouraging people to sign up.

Even email senders who just want to reach Dad@aol.com may eventually be in trouble. Once a pay-to-speak system like this gets going, it will be increasingly difficult for people who don't pay to get their mail through. The system has no way to distinguish between ordinary mail and bulk mail, spam and non-spam, personal and commercial mail. It just gives preference to people who pay.

And prepare to be shaken down if you run a noncommercial mailing list, whether for local bowling leagues or political organizations with a national membership -- like RightMarch.com. Not only will the per-message fees quickly add up, but the Goodmail technology will also be costly for senders to setup and use. Goodmail's giving a "special offer" for nonprofits through 2006, but when that ends their messages will presumably end up in the trash, too.

If email senders bear a burden, who gains? Not Yahoo and AOL customers, whose email boxes are being sold off. It will presumably be harder for even desired email to reach them.

In return, customers probably will now get not one, but two helpings of spam. For only $.0025 cent per message, Yahoo and AOL will guarantee delivery of this extra-special "certified" paid-placement mail, served alongside your ordinary spam. They'll also preserve webbugs, little privacy invaders that report back when you look at the email. Goodmail says that it will ensure that the messages aren't spam, but it's not clear how they will enforce this. After all, if a foolproof way for a third-party to distinguish wanted from unwanted messages existed, we would have solved the spam problem long ago.

What about "phishing"? Remember, the problem with "phishing" is that ordinary end users cannot always tell when a "certification" is real. Spoofing the appearance of Goodmail certification to end users should not be much of a problem, and all of the encryption in the world won't fix that.

Spam is a real problem demanding real solutions, but taxing the Internet, even if the tax is "voluntary" and even if the money goes to ISPs, isn't one of them. The best solution is to put more power in the hands of users to control spam filters and a robust market in those filters. Allowing ISPs to auction off access to email boxes and ransom free speech solves nothing.

EFF is working on an extended and more technical description of the problems with Goodmail, but this is a bad idea we think should be nipped in the bud -- NOW, before things go any further.

TAKE ACTION: Think about what this email surcharge would do to an organization like RightMarch.com. Fully ONE-THIRD of our members have AOL or Yahoo email addresses. That means hundreds of thousands of patriotic conservative Americans won't receive our Action Alerts unless we pay a "fee" to their ISPs to guarantee delivery.

We're a grassroots organization. We don't have that kind of money. It could shut down YOUR ability to make the kind of impact in Washington you've been making.

That's why we're joining with EFF, as well as other conservative AND liberal grassroots organizations, to urge AOL and Yahoo subscribers (and those who communicate with them) to tell them that taxing email is NOT the right way to go. Click below NOW to send a FREE message directly to Yahoo and AOL/TimeWarner corporate headquarters, demanding that they abandon their plans for a "pay-to-speak" email system:

http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=8503681&type=CU

NOTE: Be sure to forward this Alert to EVERYONE you know who wants to help STOP AOL & Yahoo from charging a "fee" to deliver email! Thank you!

Sincerely,


William Greene, President
RightMarch.com
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:07 PM
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1. Please,
don't suggest freepers and Du......I'm getting nauseas just imagining it.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:44 PM
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3. Don't worry, it's all part of Bush's plan to unite America
By making both sides hate HIM so much, they can put aside their differences.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:46 PM
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4. You are so right on that one...
I just read a post with a FR thread concerning the Dubai Debacle and I was totally amazed to see so many hateful things said about Bush....I'm still a bit taken aback..
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:59 PM
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5. The freepers can be a very hateful bunch
In this case, their venom hasn't changed, just the target.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:38 PM
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2. done. From the moveon link of course. nt
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:09 PM
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6. VLR
LTNS! Keep on!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:21 PM
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8. Always a pleasure!
:hug: fighting the fight :)
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:31 PM
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7. It amazes me why ANYBODY
uses AOL anyway!
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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:22 PM
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9. True nt
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