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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:10 PM Original message |
Slavery of baby boys in the United Arab Emirates |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. omg.. I remember reading about this in the NYT |
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ShockediSay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
94. sounds bogus |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #94 |
119. what sounds bogus? |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. and they are not much better with their women |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. And Bush has the right to go around and talk about democracy? |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
86. um you sure about that? |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 02:41 AM Response to Reply #86 |
126. The new UAE Finance Minister is a woman; women vote there, too. nt |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. that's about the saddest thing ever.... nt |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. Please let's get this on the Greatest page |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm ashamed to say I had to Google this to see if it was really true: |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Don't feel bad for googling it. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. at the end of the article, it said that UAE had signed agreements |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Which shows me they didn't have any plans of doing it |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
85. Please see post #57...they are taking steps. There have been prosecutions |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. I hate to ask this question, but it occurred to me that maybe these little |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. A slave is a slave is a slave--it's human property, for whatever use... |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
10. Link w/pix: http://www.camelraces.com/ |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. we posted that at exactly the same time, lol. n/t |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. there is an entire website devoted to this subect-- |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Heh... great minds! |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
14. The countries enslaving the boys are W's friends |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I bet W stayed with some of the royals for summer vacations |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
15. Oh, goodie. Finally, an opponent that deserves swiftboating. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. Amazing and disgusting |
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Sabien (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-22-06 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
20. HBO Real Sports |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 04:24 AM Response to Original message |
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Lucy - Claire (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 04:57 AM Response to Original message |
22. More info..... |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
23. I'm just sick over this. |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The UAE Is Bushes Ally WE Don't Matter...EVER |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
25. Sickening. |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
26. Randi covered this yesterday on her show |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
27. I'm ashamed to admit I just heard about this yesterday. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
28. It's not just the UAE who has a slavery problem: Israel & the US do too. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Excuse the FUCK outta ME, but this isn't about ARABS |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Please. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
99. Nearly every nation has sick people. And no one is suggesting |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. Or maybe she singles it out because it's being touted as an "ally" |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 12:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Which takes us back to my original question. Really. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. No it doesn't. It doesn't take me to that question at all. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Unless the persons involved have done something wrong, the only wrong |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Being owned by a certain repressive, slave, feudal state. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. You have a distorted view of the UAE, here is women's rights info: |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Aside from the completely weak and irrelevant nature of the article, |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #76 |
91. Right, bigotry. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. There's that word "association" again. It's "ownership", |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #93 |
113. Still no post to any terrorist act. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Besides 9/11 and banking the terrorists, there's only the slavery and |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 09:37 AM Response to Reply #114 |
128. Glad I'm winning you over. But the rhetoric about the "business that |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 10:02 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. It's right out of the truth of the matter. And it's enough. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #91 |
104. Who accused the UAE of suppressing terrorism? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. What a funny standard. Would you hire a baby sitter based on |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. A "funny" standard, indeed. The only "evidence of untrustworthiness" is |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #74 |
97. What a funny strawman. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
103. For me, this is a moot question. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. That's a fair concern. I have it too. I just don't think we should make |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. It's not the UAE... |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. Slavery is widespread--HOWEVER |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Thank you for the REAL voice of reason. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. The State Dept says the UAE is making noticeable progress. |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
100. According to a June 2005 State Dep't report, the situation is still grave |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. Your report is much older. The one I posted has a date of Feb. 1, 2006. |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. Your 'report' is a short 3 paragraph summary. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. The '06 report notes the '05 report recommendations are being followed. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. What is the UAE doing about slaveryt? |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
51. Why are you continually carrying water for the UAE??? n/t |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. I've repeatedly said that there may be legitimate reasons why this deal |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
73. This is what I was thinking also... |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
29. And saddam through babies out of incubators too |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
46. Then pick one. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
54. No.. I wont' flame, but I'll point out the ridiculousness of your post. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
72. So your point is someone lied about activities of one government |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Actually the point was |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #80 |
98. So how will you be looking into the claims about UAE precisely? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. unclesam sites |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
30. Didn't Michael Jackson move there? |
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bluemarkers (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. yes he did |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Jackson is in Bahrein |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #40 |
56. And they have "vice police" that came to the scene. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
109. So a freaky guy in a dress startles some ladies in a bathroom... |
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UncleSepp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 01:38 AM Response to Reply #109 |
124. Yes. |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
31. They're supposedly replacing them with robots now |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
49. Right! Even if they do, what happens to the kids that are now enslaved? |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
32. so that's what people were talking about when they said |
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hopeisaplace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
34. This is so disgusting and upsetting..my heart is breaking |
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twaddler01 (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
35. Go figure |
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Bullshot (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
36. So, why hasn't Bush put us on a bombing crusade against the UAE |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Great work. |
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Dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. You've put a lot of effort into shooting the messenger |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #43 |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
77. Thanks for your clarification. I am hoping that the efforts to stop this |
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jahyarain (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
88. yeah |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. On the contrary, I say DO point out the atrocity, just don't pretend it's |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 10:47 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. As a gay man, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Matthew Shepard wasn't killed by government sanction, |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Neither have any gays in the UAE been killed by gov't sanction. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
96. Not killed, just jailed simply for being gay. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. No, for breaking a law in a very public manner |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 09:39 AM Response to Reply #108 |
129. Breaking the law? Which law was that? |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
41. THE UAE BANS Human Rights Groups! |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Sadly, idiots in America STILL confuse capitalism with democracy. n/t |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #55 |
115. Thom Hartmann is great at illustrating this point! |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
47. So, is it racist to point this out too? |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Yes, just like it was racist to oppose Sam Alito or Condi Rice |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
48. I just sent this to my senators and rep: Child Slavery in the UAE |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
59. Fat lot of good it will do, but I am sending this to the local media, as |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
60. girls too, It's equal opportunity enslavement |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
62. Isn't there a certain washed up pop-star staying there? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
67. K & R |
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pauldp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
71. a new place to look for those missing children on milk cartons. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. AmuriKKKa is a sick, twisted place |
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pauldp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Good Point. It is not a racial issue however. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. Italy is a sick, twisted place |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
82. Well to quote the bug-eyed hag Bar Bush ... |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
87. The UAE sounds like a Bushian paradise |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
90. The important question: is it legal or sanctioned? |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Read post #57. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
102. Here's the U.S. State Department's own report on the UAE |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. This does occasionally happen in the UAE and everywhere |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #102 |
110. That report is out of date: here's the more recent one: |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. Sheikh Khalifa was genuinely shocked by the issue |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. Or |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Well, I wondered about that, myself. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-23-06 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
121. Just a brief note about civility. |
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YEM82 (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
122. Dubai/UAE |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Good points, the UAE's economy has been officially diversified |
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scab_picker (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 02:30 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Just a little pregnant? |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 10:05 AM Response to Reply #125 |
131. So, there is no human trafficking in the US? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #131 |
132. Is your argument that if we have any wrongdoing in our own country |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 10:21 AM Response to Reply #132 |
133. just pointing out the myopia |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
127. How can the US question how another nation deals with human |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
134. ***OTHER SLAVERY IN IRAQ is paid for by us in a HALLIBURTON subsidiary: |
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