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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:31 AM
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Secret Service agents say Cheney was drunk...
...when the shooting occurred.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:32 AM
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1. Can Capitol Hill Blue be trusted?
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:33 AM
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6. The wishful thinking brand of journalism. n/t
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:38 AM
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13. short answer: no
they are similar to, but worse than, the National Enquirer. They take something that is most likely true -- cheney was drunk, bush said he didn't care about the constitution, etc. -- and then build a whole elaborate story around it, including names and quotes out of thin air

So, it's basically historical fiction.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 12:02 PM
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17. You mean the National Inquirer
that first had the story of rush limbaugh and his drug abuse?
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:32 AM
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2. CHB -- yawn
More bullshit from CHB.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:32 AM
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3. Booooooooo!
This was posted yesterday. CHB is a source that says what we like but it is not reliable. If there is no link to the actual document there is nothing to back the story up.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:35 AM
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10. No named sources, no one speaking "on the record"
Ever wonder why Doug Thomson never, ever breaks any actual verifiable news?
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:33 AM
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4. Sigh, Captial Hill Blue.
Move along, nothing to see here. :-(
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:33 AM
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5. Is there a link to this?
I've always thought the Secret Service refused to discuss the people they are assigned to protect.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:34 AM
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8. yup, that is true. n/t
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:34 AM
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7. Capitol Hill Blue
is not considered a reliable source by many here, but in this case, I hope there is verification of what was said in the article.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:34 AM
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9. Effing figures. We knew that that was the case...
Would have been shocked if that hadn't been the case:eyes:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:37 AM
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11. shoot the messenger
the story rings true

the story checks out
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:42 AM
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16. IMO, Captial Hill Blue is historical fiction
they take things that are probably facts -- e.g., Cheney was drunk -- and build an elaborate story around it, with specifics and quotes that are completely out of the imagination of the writer.

The story rings true, because the basic kernal most likely is, but I personally would never trust it as a source, no more than I'd trust a TV movie about, say, Pearl Harbor.

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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 12:08 PM
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18. Correct
Sometimes they are correct, but sometimes the blind squirrel finds a nut. Usually they print what could happen whether there are any facts to back it up or not. Cheney being drunk is VERY plausible, though.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:38 AM
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12. I will guarantee the SS never said that!
Sorry, but SS will not talk about this period. If this came from CHB, then i wouldn't trust it.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:38 AM
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14. The Secret Service...
...strapped me into a chair and forced me to watch Cheney sodomize a 3 week old puppy.

--w13rdo, just as reliable as CHB
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:38 AM
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15. Nothing but total hearsay
from the article (if you wanna call it that): "We talked with a number of administration officials who are privy to inside information on the Vice President's shooting "accident"

Yeah, I'll bet you did.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 12:18 PM
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19. What does everyone here expect?
Named sources? CHB has broke some stories that ended up being true. Does anyone doubt that the shooting event didn't go down exactly as they are stating it did? WTF? I know they are considered "gossip". But I betcha they have this story right.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 12:19 PM
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20. what's the big deal over a little pepper?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:05 PM
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21. The situation is this - corporate news exists to protect and promote,
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 01:07 PM by higher class
therefore we will bever know from them - they are big on people crime, not WH crime.

Other bloggers are more genuine and professional in their reporting and they probably have to chhoose what they are going to cover.

What CHB says rings true in the gut, but since Dick is such a secretive guy and they want to have a secret we can believe anything we want. No one is right. No one is wrong. We delude ourselves to argue.

My gut tells me that probably everything is true in the story, but the part about the SS talking and resigning is incredible is very difficult to believe. If true we have a breakthrough.

That's why we are who we are - sifters, guessers, speculators, And some are checkers.

In any case, the story is still alive and that is good because Mary and Dick, aided by corporate news, are vicious creatures.

In the end - Everybody is right. Everybody is wrong. Until it's checked.
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Harald Ragnarsson Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:49 PM
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22. Yeah, I'll wait for something "credible" like the NYT to report it
:sarcasm:
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