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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:47 PM
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Does anyone have links to the number of deaths from Gulf War Syndrome?
I googled but was mostly seeing U.S. and U.K. government spin. I thought I had heard that thousands have died since GWI and that the deaths could be attributable to Gulf War Syndrome. Was that right or wrong? Thanks for the info, in advance.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:59 PM
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1. don't know. we don't hear too much about it any more. i know
that they were put in the same category as the illness i have "chronic fatigue syndrome". but no one ever died from this -- except for some who couldn't take it anymore and committed suicide.:dilemma:

BTW: geraldo did a lot of coverage on GFW before the OJ case came about and took over.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:11 PM
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2. I read an article in the Seattle times....
discussing this....I think it was in this past Sunday's paper...

Gulf War Syndrome=Exposure to Depleted Uranium

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For more than a decade, Gulf War veteran Harry White has suffered from aches, fatigue and a disturbing loss of muscle control.
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http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=msvets22m&date=20060222&query=Iraq+Vets

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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:14 PM
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4. Here's a few links to articles about depleted uranium
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 03:13 PM by unhappycamper
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:19 PM
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5. I posted this related to Gulf War Syndrome some time ago.
maybe it will help. You might want to google Depleted Uranium as well:
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Not my usual politically based missive, but it is one of my hot buttons.

Last year the Veterans Administration ran out of money and needed a massive infusion of cash to keep operating. Have you wondered why the VA is so short on cash? Initially it was blamed on the sudden need for about $14,000,000,000 in treatment and prosthetics for the wounded returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. That's a lot of arms and legs, but that may not be the only reason.

I ran across this: http://www.sfbayview.com/012605/headsroll012605.shtml.

Ever since the troops began returning from the first gulf war there have been rumors of strange maladies and birth defects. For the first ten years the VA denied any abnormalities and said that the occurrences of illness fell within the statistical norm. That's exactly what they said about Agent Orange. They stonewalled so long that most of those affected died before the VA admitted that Agent Orange was toxic. Now, fifteen years after Saddam's defeat in 1991, it seems that the gulf war soldiers were right and that something war related really is affecting their health and it's a lot worse than Agent Orange.

It's called Depleted Uranium. That's the leftovers after all the "good stuff" is refined out of nuclear fuel. It is extremely dense, heavy and hard. It makes excellent armor and armor piercing ammunition. The military has been using it for 30-40 years, but Gulf War I was the first massive use in a large theater. Hundreds of tons of the stuff was used. Most of it is still there, in the soil and water.

It isn't radioactive. In fact after all the refining it emits near background radiation. However it is a heavy metal like lead or mercury and like those it accumulates, deposits itself in organs and bones and it never leaves the body. It is much more toxic than lead or mercury.

When an armor piercing bullet penetrates several inches of steel armor the heat generated literally burns the bullet and melts the armor. The resulting smoke is micro pulverized Depleted Uranium dust. When breathed or absorbed into wounds it affects the nervous system and many organs with symptoms ranging from body ache to cancer. It has a half life of thousands of years and becomes a permanent part of the environment. Every time the dust is stirred up it can be breathed into the lungs. Iraq has a lot of sand storms.

So how toxic is this stuff? According to the article I found of 580,000 soldiers who served in Gulf War I eleven thousand are now dead. Fifty Six percent, or 320,000, are on permanent disability. Almost 520,000 have some level of disability related to the war. The rate of permanent disability for wars prior to Vietnam was 5% and for 'Nam it was 10%.

This stuff makes Agent Orange look like a vitamin supplement.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:20 PM
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6. According to the U.N. Geneva Report on Depleted Uranium
As other posters have noted, GWS is being linked to DU.

According to the U.N. Geneva Report on Depleted Uranium......

The United States Department of Veterans' Affairs (VA) figures on deaths of veterans who served in the First Gulf War (over 8,000), coupled with an equally startling disability rate (206,861 of 696,778 veterans on paid disability), is sufficient to indicate that something is seriously amiss.

http://www.bandepleteduranium.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=110

These figures are from August 4, 2003, so the numbers are probably higher by now.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:43 AM
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7. there is one absolutely unbelievable statistic regarding GWS . . .
I don't have the citation handy, but the VA itself reports that of the surviving Americans who served in the first Gulf War, over 50% are on permanent disability! . . . (that compares to about 10% for the Vietnam war, and 5% for WWII) . . .

and the amount of depleted uranium weapons used in that was was a small fraction of the amount used in the current Iraq war (and in Afghanistan) . . .

if DU is indeed a major cause of GWS (and I certainly believe that it is), the implications of these facts for the future of those now serving are absolutely devastating . . . my neice is currently in Iraq, and I dread the thought of what just breating the air could be doing to her . . .
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