I'm done..

[converted_democrat]

I just called Sen. Nelson's office and to "give my opinion" of the Port deal.. The girl on the other end of the phone was so dismissive, like it was a joke.. I was so polite, and she giggled at me like I was a joke.. I'm having a hard time believing that anyone in this country gives a shit.. I can't do this anymore.. If members of our own party thinks this is a laughing matter, I don't see much hope for the future.. I'm normally one of the happiest people you'd ever want to meet.. My country is crumbling, and I am heartbroken.. I tried for so long to believe that it's going to be okay, but I just can't believe that anymore.. It's all over except for the shouting..

[cry baby]

1. that is very depressing. nt

[Seen the light]

2. It's Nelson's office, what did you expect? nt

[ourbluenation]

3. come on now - don't dispair. Things will get better...

this administration is the gift that keeps on giving, revealing the ugly under belly of the neo cons at every turn. People are watching, and listening, quietly. You'll see.

:)

[Jason9612]

I feel your pain...

I know what you're saying...It's kind of sad, I know. We're just a country that doesn't give a shit. We never have, and never will UNLESS it deals with something tangible to us that will effect us DIRECTLY (like taxes).

[mom cat]

Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Admiral Loinpresser]

21. Ditto!

By the way, Converted. As you start to perhaps re-evaluate things in the past, I recommend looking at Katrina, Tora Bora, and the Iraq invasion.

http://algore-08.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=84

[newyawker99]

31. Hi Jason6912!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[acmejack]

4. I know how you feel, but you can't quit

We have to stick together and continue, they want us to give it up. Remember the words of Ben Franklin, "We must all hang together", those words are most assuredly true in our own case!

[RagingInMiami]

5. I'll be voting against Nelson

For just standing by while Alito was getting confirmed. I suggest you send this thread to his office.

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Than support people who do take it seriously

[Greyhound]

38. And how are we to do that when The Party ensures that only "one

of their kind" can be considered?

[mattclearing]

7. Nelson isn't exactly a very reputable Democrat.

Don't let him ruin it for you.

[kcass1954]

10. The sad part is that he used to be a really decent guy. I met him in 72.

I was a college freshman, getting ready to vote for the first time. He was running for his first elected office. I was a repub back then, but was still impressed enough to vote for him many times over the years.

I'm not quite sure where he went wrong...

[tsuki]

8. Which Nelson?

[eggman67]

9. Since the OP is from FL

I'm guessing it's that one

[radio4progressives]

18. where does it say florida?

[eggman67]

20. User Profile n/t

[ChiciB1]

11. Hi There... Weren't We Just Having A Conversation At Another

thread??? Check it out!! Bill Nelson isn't MY IDEA of a Senator and I wish we had someone else to run in his place! I've often contacted them, by email and calling. I usually get the regular "auto response" from emails!

I'm on his email list and he does send out messages, but geez he's one of those who just puts his finger in the air to see which way the shit is blowing. I went to rallies during the election and he was featured with both Kerry & Edwards, but as soon as Martinez won he couldn't wait to come out and say that they were friends and he looked forward to working with him!!

He's also a very HUGE Christian type who goes to "secret" Christian meetings in D.C.! I used to have that info but got rid of it. "madfloridian" help me out and PM "converted_democrat" because you were the one who sent that information to me. You're ALWAYS so informative!

[FlaNoKerry]

12. Sounds like Bill Nelson of Fla...

and if you don't vote for him....you must skip it...and it WILL help Katherine Harris, (cruella), as she is running against him for his Senate seat.

PS Her finance director, second one, quit!
:rofl:

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. You assume that Nelson is a member of "our own Party"

That's a dubious assumption indeed.

[file83]

14. She was probably giggling because the good Senator was "tickling" her. n/t

[iconoclastNYC]

15. It's darkest before the Dawn.

The people are taking back our party from DINOS and corporatists. It will take time but we are well on the way.

[Pacifist Patriot]

16. *sigh* He's my senator. The only Democrat besides the

county tax collector to represent my interests. In short, I'm screwed!

[radio4progressives]

17. Which Nelson? Bill or Ben? Florida or Nebraska? n/t

[Patsy Stone]

19. Don't Give Up!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=495242&mesg_id=495242

It's an uphill battle, but I think America's worth it.

[texastoast]

22. Time for a break

It IS all over but the shouting. We just can't ACT like it is. It's worth fighting for if for no other reason than it sucks to tell our kids "I gave up fighting for you."

Take a break and see ya in two weeks. And not before!;-)

[seabeyond]

23. alll over. never. til death. and even then some would argue...

give up....? lol lol not an option. and give up what. give up the idea that america must be the old america, back to where we were. this is only a moment in time. what happens, happens. we created this a long time ago, and is playing out now. gotta play out. we the people created this, all of us did. whatever is going to happen will, it is what we do with it..... and there are always options there. so we dont stop the port, and your dem isnt bothered. bush becomes dictator, our economy runs amuck, the middle east breaks out in war, abortions end......

we have lost our right to super power. we have lost our title of great nation. but there is always the chance to create and build, in strength, honest, new.......

this is my childrens future. i cant/wont/dont ever give up.

you either, i bet

but, my space, every single day is filled with family, love lite friendship kindness gentleness understanding compassion laughter joy

what comes tomorrow i welcome, in that i and mine are that capable. and it is another day i am alive. and in love.

[Greyhound]

34. and you'll be just fine in your suburban cocoon until they came for

you or yours. Then you'll realize it was all your fault.

[seabeyond]

35. fuck that shit......;. you know nothing. i sit in red fundy and put my

ass out there every single fuckin day. i will be the first to be sent away by my neighbor. ......

i am also not a coward to hide, or keep mouth shut. you know nothing......... so dont even try to decide. inevitably you will be wrong i assure you

[Greyhound]

36. I sincerely hope you're right. Unfortunately I do know quite a bit more

than the average sheep, that's the problem. So if you don't mind, I'll just prepare for what history teaches us is inevitably coming.

[seabeyond]

39. hey i am not

questioning your knowledge of what is up in the world. i am challenging you perception you know squat about me. that i can spout off, sitting comfortably in suburbia.......

i too sit and acknowledge history. i think that is reflective in my first post

[Greyhound]

42. I must have misinterpreted your original reply, apologies offered.

I thought you were saying something to the effect of 'so the world is turning to shit, who cares? I'll deal with that when/if it happens here in my personal space'. Again, my apologies.

[seabeyond]

44. no problem. i do address life, that i will deal with what comes

might as well, we really have no other choice but to ignore, i guesss, or pretend it isnt there. i do have the attitude of dealing with the now. now i am dealing with all this shit before we are there. i do see us going to no abortion. and we will have to deal with that. women will die, they will kill themselves, they will use coat hangers, we know this from history. this is why we made them legal in the first place. bush has fucked up the nation, the religious right has a strangle hold on the sheep. that is where we are now. until we start waking the sheep this nation will continue to decay. reality. but even in decay, do you give up? the is always hope and opportunity. even if this nation crumbles, there is the opportunity to rebuild. and a decade or more, maybe the world we rebuild will be grander,.... for my children to raise their kids in. continuing to create love, peace, grace in my environment will create children into adults that take their world seriously and will be there to help in the healing.

[RazzleDazzle]

24. Nope, don't take it. Call back and DEMAND to speak to

someone in charge of staff or better yet the Chief of Staff (unlikely, but you can try), and complain in no uncertain terms about the dismissive crap from this young giggling idiot. And demand that something be done about her treatment of constituents. Threaten to write a Letter to the Editor complaining about the treatment, and to keep writing letters of complaints every single week unless you get satisfaction on this.

DO NOT ROLL OVER AND TAKE IT. Please. It's only your country you're losing, you know. Don't let a little know-nothing like you encountered stop you.

[Just Me]

25. Take a vacation from this insanity. You'll feel better and regain,...

,...some sense of hope.

Everyone who's been at this nears despair and/or burnout at some point.

Go do something that makes you happy and totally avoid this crap for awhile. Your emotional and intellectual health demand it. :hug:

[mzmolly]

26. Dont' let the office girl disuade you. She is probably not a political

person. I've called some offices of our elected officials and wondered how the person on the other end of the phone line was able to fill out a job application.

[MissWaverly]

27. reframe your call

Just tell the staffer, if Sen. Nelson doesn't feel comfortable representing his constituents
then can he recommend a replacement, I would be willing to support someone that can represent us back home.

[land of the free]

28. she's laughing cuz she'll be unemployed soon

Don't let a dismissive, burned out person who has been pummelled with complaints over the past few weeks due to her boss' stupidity kill your spirit.

[Ksec]

29. Flipping thru the channels

I saw Nelson on the 700 club the other day, with that whacko who runs it.

Nelson fit right in. You are the company you keep.

Just like I saw the Attorney General Gonzales doing an interveiw with sean hannity today. Can you imagine? Hannity is the most extremist type I can think of and that bunch does interveiws with these people. Its bizarre. Think about the most left wing person you can think of. Then think about all the Democrats granting him interveiws or chumming up with him. Can you imagine the vitriol they would be spewing about us?

[Dem2theMax]

30. Ooooooh! You just hit on THE words to put with pics of * & his UAE buds.

Can't you just see it? * holding hands with his UAE friends and the words
"You are the company you keep" printed under it?

Someone make this into a poster and we'll plaster it all over the US of A. :evilgrin:

[Sapphire Blue]

32. "But for God’s sake, don’t ever give up,

... because some child is depending on you, some family is hoping for a better day, some worker needs a breakthrough, the voiceless still need a voice, the poor still need an advocate, those in the margin still need to be mentioned, people who are down still need to be lifted, the hurt still need to be healed. Use your life in the court of humanity to say “I WILL OBJECT UNTIL JUSTICE ROLLS DOWN LIKE WATER & RIGHTEOUSNESS LIKE A MIGHTY STREAM!" - Rev. Dr. William J. Barber (from his speech 'A Conversation on Poverty & Segregation': http://www.unc.edu/law/povertycenter/audio/barber.mp3)

[calimary]

40. I LOVE that quote in your sig line. I copied it into my "great quotes"

file.

Hey, look, if people like him hung in there, we can, too.

BTW - if you get no satisfaction from Nelson, use one of the TOLL-FREE numbers and call Barbara Boxer's office. Or in the House of Reps, Henry Waxman's office, Jim McDermott's office, John Conyers' office, Charlie Rangel's office, Maxine Waters' office. There are many who'll be more courteous and receptive. Like even the people in Chuck Hagel's office. He's a Republican, but he's a moderate, and I've had some thoroughly satisfying conversations with his people. Evidently, they've been sat down and told to be respectful and courteous to Democrats who call in, too, and they don't treat you like you're some silly little malcontent or something.

Go back to that "Don't Give Up" thread linked farther up on this one. Read some more, here. Give yourself an hour off and just relax and read. We've got your back, and we'll help you to overcome your discouragement.

As Howard Dean said, early-on, the only way we lose is if we give up. And that would suit kkkarl rove JUST FINE. You want to hand him even MORE ill-gotten gain? I didn't think so.

[Sapphire Blue]

43. The quote is from his Nobel Acceptance Speech, December 10, 1986

http://www.eliewieselfoundation.org/ElieWiesel/speech.html

That quote affects me to the very depths of my soul. How can one justify a life that forgets/abandons those who need us desperately? What is such a life worth?

And yes, if Elie Wiesel never gave up after living through so much horror, so much horror, how on earth can anyone else??? How can one even consider it???

[calimary]

46. VERY good question. If he never gave up, how can we?

Couldn't agree more.

Thanks for the background info! :toast:

[Greyhound]

33. "It's all over except for the shouting.."

and the shooting, and the disappearances, and the curfews, and the armored vehicles patrolling the streets to "keep us safe"... :cry:

[shadowknows69]

37. That seems similar

to the nightmares I've been having lately

[Greyhound]

45. Sorry to hear that, hope we're wrong. n/t

[Harald Ragnarsson]

41. She probably wasn't giggling about the ports issue

It was probably just giggling at voters who think they give a shit what their concerns are. About anything.

9/11 changed everything.